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Post by cantabile on Apr 14, 2009 15:45:06 GMT
Casey- It wasn't measurably different, but my second audition was slightly closer to the way I normally sound. My concern with using my natural speaking voice has nothing to do with being vibrant; I just don't think it fits her philosophy of restraint. That said, when I have time I might do a quick clip of my normal voice to see how it turns out.
Don't worry about your comments, as a former music major I can understand where you're coming from. This is, after all, one of my first attempts at voice acting.
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Post by Casey on Apr 14, 2009 16:41:29 GMT
Isn't there a part in the begining where there's a list that says all of the different character names and who it playing them? Only about half of the character's are accounted for, but some lead parts like Eglamore and Annie have a username next to them. Does that mean those parts are taken or should we still audition for them? Yes see that's exactly the confusion that I'm hoping for an opportunity to clear up. Personally I don't think anyone should be designated as "sounds best" at this point if auditions are still open, because that is discouraging people from trying out for parts that they might be better suited for. If auditions are truly open until the end of the month, then no judging should be taking place yet. I hope I hear back from Sandjioseph soon though, for the sake of those folks that are eager but confused or discouraged. I could to a lot to help, I think.
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Post by sandjosieph on Apr 14, 2009 18:58:28 GMT
I'm actually going to start up a poll once this month is over. We can then vote on who sounds the best.
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Post by warrl on Apr 14, 2009 19:10:24 GMT
It might be good if one specific person were maintaining a "best two or three so far, in MY opinion" (and all that clearly in the label) list.
Not a "best one" list though.
And the first two to audition for a role AUTOMATICALLY get on the list at least until there's a third person - so if there is only one name, or no name, that would identify a role that you really need more auditions for.
(I know what my voice sounds like when recorded. I might be willing to try Diego. Of course that's really easy so far...)
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Post by Casey on Apr 14, 2009 19:21:28 GMT
Sand with all due respect, that still doesn't address the issue that there are people who have stated an interest in auditioning but who have gotten the impression from the first post of the thread that certain parts are closed. I don't think it is reasonable for a person to have to read through the entire thread in order to glean some idea to the contrary. I'm interested in seeing as many auditions as possible to choose from once the voting process starts, but the information out there as it is at the moment is keeping people from auditioning, and I don't think that's right. I can help to fix that, unless you're saying that you feel you have it all under control and you don't want any help.
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Post by Casey on Apr 14, 2009 21:11:10 GMT
Reyo, are you still out there?
Hey, I was working on a project that had me going back through all the chapters of the story, and I found something that might be of interest to you.
Have you considered doing the voice of Alistair Kershaw? He's the subject of Chapter 13. When I re-read the chapter, I thought immediately of you. Check it out maybe? Just a heads up!
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Post by p13volution on Apr 14, 2009 22:06:22 GMT
Hi its me again. Finally finished my first audition. If someone could give me the password to the youtube account I can upload it whenever.
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Post by Casey on Apr 14, 2009 22:17:55 GMT
I wanted to give everyone, Sandjosieph included, an idea of the organization that I had in mind. I've been working on some documents today that I really think are going to help make everything a lot smoother.
I've gone through the entire webcomic today and I created a chart of each character with a speaking part, and what chapter they first speak in, organized by chapter and then character name (as opposed to by auditioner as the current first post is). My proposal is that we don't need to have EVERY speaking part down before we begin (there are, after all, sixty-eight different parts up to now, if you include one-liners). I feel that auditions can still be submitted after the first chapters are underway. Yes, this takes more organization, but this also increases the opportunity for more people to participate, and I am more than willing to do the necessary organization. Not to toot my own horn here, but I interned in a casting director's office for a long time, and this is really second nature to me.
In an ideal world, I would ask Tom to open up a second sub-forum for this project, and have separate threads for auditions, current production, and other aspects such as music and sound effects. The point of all this is not to make things more complex--on the contrary, I believe that, while it would be work(fun) for me, I think it will make things MUCH easier on both the fans who want to contribute, and on Sandjioseph who has to focus on actually producing the end result.
Here's an excerpt from my file. This is a list of the speaking parts in the first two chapters. In my humble opinion, we should focus on filling these roles by the end of the month, so that Sand can start production on the first two chapters while I can volunteer to continue to organize future role auditions while production is underway.
/excerpt on
Chapter 1
Antimony Carver:
Robot:
Unnamed Teacher:
Chapter 2
Anja Donlan:
William Winsbury:
Katerina Donlan:
Sleepy Mythology Teacher:
Basil the Minotaur:
/excerpt off
I have a ton more to offer, it's more than just this list, but again I'm looking for some sort of sign that my time and expertise(?) are welcomed.
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Post by reyo on Apr 14, 2009 22:43:28 GMT
Reyo, are you still out there? Hey, I was working on a project that had me going back through all the chapters of the story, and I found something that might be of interest to you. Have you considered doing the voice of Alistair Kershaw? He's the subject of Chapter 13. When I re-read the chapter, I thought immediately of you. Check it out maybe? Just a heads up! yeeeaaaaahhhh I was thinking about it, but I can't take myself seriously when I act all kissy-kissy like Ali does in his ONE chapter of existce. I guess I can TRY it, but I wouldn't get my hopes up... My inability to act all romantic is primarily the reason I picked Mort and Smith. And I'm still a little iffy on whether or not I want to try and do William (that one scene with whatshername). I'll most likely have both Ali's and William's auditions uploaded by the end of the week though just to try them out anyway.
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Post by sandjosieph on Apr 14, 2009 23:25:57 GMT
I wanted to give everyone, Sandjosieph included, an idea of the organization that I had in mind. I've been working on some documents today that I really think are going to help make everything a lot smoother. I've gone through the entire webcomic today and I created a chart of each character with a speaking part, and what chapter they first speak in, organized by chapter and then character name (as opposed to by auditioner as the current first post is). My proposal is that we don't need to have EVERY speaking part down before we begin (there are, after all, sixty-eight different parts up to now, if you include one-liners). I feel that auditions can still be submitted after the first chapters are underway. Yes, this takes more organization, but this also increases the opportunity for more people to participate, and I am more than willing to do the necessary organization. Not to toot my own horn here, but I interned in a casting director's office for a long time, and this is really second nature to me. In an ideal world, I would ask Tom to open up a second sub-forum for this project, and have separate threads for auditions, current production, and other aspects such as music and sound effects. The point of all this is not to make things more complex--on the contrary, I believe that, while it would be work(fun) for me, I think it will make things MUCH easier on both the fans who want to contribute, and on Sandjioseph who has to focus on actually producing the end result. Here's an excerpt from my file. This is a list of the speaking parts in the first two chapters. In my humble opinion, we should focus on filling these roles by the end of the month, so that Sand can start production on the first two chapters while I can volunteer to continue to organize future role auditions while production is underway. /excerpt on Chapter 1 Antimony Carver: Robot: Unnamed Teacher: Chapter 2 Anja Donlan: William Winsbury: Katerina Donlan: Sleepy Mythology Teacher: Basil the Minotaur: /excerpt off I have a ton more to offer, it's more than just this list, but again I'm looking for some sort of sign that my time and expertise(?) are welcomed. That's awesome! I can see that you're much better at organizing than I am. Perhaps you could help me out when it gets closer to crunch time in organizing all this stuff. PM me if you're interested.
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Post by reyo on Apr 15, 2009 0:35:04 GMT
By the way, could those that have listened to my voice in the last two audition's I've done give me advice on the next character(s) they could see (or hear) me as? Making these movies is somewhat of a task for me and I only have so much of a window of time that I can make them. Thank you.
(It's much like what Casey did.)
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Post by uskuri on Apr 15, 2009 4:50:21 GMT
Just submitted my Coyote audition: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFQfhY1ZVsI had so much fun doing this, but I got a bit obsessive about it. I must have recorded the first part at least fifty times, trying to make it better. I still have some issues with it, but I'll leave the criticism up to you guys. I threw together these two scenes because the Moon Coyote page is easily my favorite page in the entire archives, and the second scene is a nice, more flexible piece that allows me to show a marginally different side of Coyote. More auditions will probably be coming in the next couple of days.
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Post by Casey on Apr 15, 2009 6:33:57 GMT
Sand: I will definitely PM you, I think together we can get more done for everyone!
Uskuri: You have a fantastic expressive voice. Do you do this professionally? Have you considered also auditioning for any other roles?
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Post by reyo on Apr 15, 2009 6:37:51 GMT
Just submitted my Coyote audition: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFQfhY1ZVsI had so much fun doing this, but I got a bit obsessive about it. I must have recorded the first part at least fifty times, trying to make it better. I still have some issues with it, but I'll leave the criticism up to you guys. I threw together these two scenes because the Moon Coyote page is easily my favorite page in the entire archives, and the second scene is a nice, more flexible piece that allows me to show a marginally different side of Coyote. More auditions will probably be coming in the next couple of days. I liked how you captured Coyote's arrogance in there, but the audition seemed a bit rushed. If you were to slow it down, then it would be loads better (in my opinion at least.) It's just that it sounds like you rushed through it.
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Post by Aricos on Apr 15, 2009 15:26:22 GMT
uskuri, your voice is easy on the ears . I really like your Coyote! You sound just about how I imagine Coyote saying stuff on that Moon page .
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Post by uskuri on Apr 15, 2009 18:51:59 GMT
Casey: I don't do this professionally (I wish I could!), but choir and theatre are both hobbies of mine that involve lots of expressiveness.
Reyo: You pretty much hit the nail on the head with what has been my most chronic problem for forever. I never manage to realize I'm rushing until someone else points it out, though, so thanks! I'll keep it in mind for the future.
And Aricos, thanks. Just thanks. Its always really encouraging to hear positive feedback. ;D
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Post by xanbcoo on Apr 15, 2009 18:56:58 GMT
uskuri, you've got this weird over pronunciation thing going on in that video that sounds really unnatural. Sounds like it's being read by an Easter coast upper class preppie, or like, Draco Malfoy or something. I think you'd be really good for Coyote if it didn't have that.
That said, you certainly captured Coyote's arrogance!! Coincidentally I was also going to put up a second audition for Coyote using that scene, so I'll do that to make it easier compare for everyone else.
I'd suggest that as a general rule as well. If you're going to audition for a part, try and do the same scene that's been done by another person, so everyone can have a metric on which to base their opinion.
Keep the auditions coming in, everyone!!
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Post by sandjosieph on Apr 15, 2009 19:29:39 GMT
Here's some test music I wrote up for Muut. Towards the end you can hear another rendition of Annie's lullaby. Tell me what you think.
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Post by orangesodafish on Apr 15, 2009 19:35:02 GMT
Just submitted my Coyote audition: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFQfhY1ZVsI had so much fun doing this, but I got a bit obsessive about it. I must have recorded the first part at least fifty times, trying to make it better. I still have some issues with it, but I'll leave the criticism up to you guys. I threw together these two scenes because the Moon Coyote page is easily my favorite page in the entire archives, and the second scene is a nice, more flexible piece that allows me to show a marginally different side of Coyote. More auditions will probably be coming in the next couple of days. I liked how you captured Coyote's arrogance in there, but the audition seemed a bit rushed. If you were to slow it down, then it would be loads better (in my opinion at least.) It's just that it sounds like you rushed through it. Agreed, the Moon page was pretty rushed... But I like it a lot better than my voice!
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Post by Casey on Apr 15, 2009 19:36:50 GMT
Brilliant. Seamless integration of the themes. Hearing stuff like this makes me really excited for what the high production value of the end project is going to be.
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Post by uskuri on Apr 15, 2009 21:13:42 GMT
I'd suggest that as a general rule as well. If you're going to audition for a part, try and do the same scene that's been done by another person, so everyone can have a metric on which to base their opinion. I hadn't even thought of this, but I think its a great idea. I'll try to keep my future auditions more in-line with what everyone else is doing.
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Post by Casey on Apr 15, 2009 21:25:59 GMT
I know this is one of those things that are hard to keep track of because information is sort of all over the place in this thread, but, Sand made the suggestion early on to do the same thing. I promise, as soon as I have the necessary feedback from Tom, this will be one of the things I'll try to incorporate into a comprehensive information package for you guys.
In the movie industry, this is also how it works. The director usually supplies "copy" (that's excerpts from the scripts) to the casting director, who distributes it to the talent so that when they come in for audition, they're all reading the same part.
So here's an exercise for you guys... let's get some group opinion and feedback going! (It will also keep us occupied and interested while I await a response from Tom.)
Make a post below, list some characters (or all of them, if you're feeling really ambitious) and say what scenes YOU think would make for good audition material for that character!
As an example, I think the first two pages (pages 2 and 3, technically) are perfect for Annie. It's just long enough and just enough changes of inflection to get a good feel for the character, IMO.
What do you all think? What's your preferred "scene" for some of your favorite characters?
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Post by Aricos on Apr 15, 2009 21:44:41 GMT
What do you all think? What's your preferred "scene" for some of your favorite characters? For Kat, some pages out of chapter 5, 13 or 18 might be good. They have a good wide range of Funny!Kat, Angry!Kat, Crushing!Kat and Serious!Kat . For Coyote, the pages usuki did would probably be good . I'm not sure about the rest of the main characters though... (Also, this is aimed at no one in particular. Please people, don't take this the wrong way! I understand this project will need some time and dedication invested by the people working on it. However, I would like to stress that this is supposed to be a fun side project. So please people, don't be all serious business! It scares me !)
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Post by Tom Siddell on Apr 15, 2009 22:01:02 GMT
However, I would like to stress that this is supposed to be a fun side project. So please people, don't be all serious business! It scares me !) Well said.
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Post by Casey on Apr 15, 2009 22:21:37 GMT
If you're referring to the organization that I'm hoping to put into place, that -is- fun for me. And also, its purpose is to hopefully make this more fun for all of you, in the sense that information will be easier to find, which is something that a lot of people said was causing them confusion and possibly in some cases stopped or discouraged them from participating.
Strict order is no fun, I agree. But some organization is more fun than utter chaos which is usually a headache for all involved.
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Post by reyo on Apr 15, 2009 22:46:27 GMT
I'd suggest that as a general rule as well. If you're going to audition for a part, try and do the same scene that's been done by another person, so everyone can have a metric on which to base their opinion. I hadn't even thought of this, but I think its a great idea. I'll try to keep my future auditions more in-line with what everyone else is doing. I just thought of a way that you could "unrush" your auditions. If you look at my recent auditions: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo-QSqc_9lUwww.youtube.com/watch?v=DianlipDDvgYou'll notice that I leave several scenes in where I'm not talking at all. Maybe if you did that with your auditions (I realize it may be hard considering coyote likes to voice his opinion about stuff in about 99% of the scenes he's in), it wouldn't feel as rushed. Also, if you were to even imagine what the the other characters were saying inbetween your lines, it might help. Heck, you could even speak the other parts out in a quiet monotonous voice (away from the mike) to space it out a bit. But it's still up to you.
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Post by Miri on Apr 16, 2009 0:05:11 GMT
Strict order is no fun, I agree. But some organization is more fun than utter chaos which is usually a headache for all involved. I definitely agree with this. (Beaver personality type and all that.) I'm having a hard time keeping track of the thread, honestly - at this point I can only hope I'm not doing something terribly wrong and counterproductive. o.o;; Thank you for your work on this already, Casey - I'm a listoholic myself, and it's nice to see someone else in the same track of mind. XD I don't suppose you'd be willing to PM/email me your full list? I'm interested in what all's there. My Jones reaudition is up/processing - against stiff competition, I might add! I'm glad, though. That means the final product will have real talent going for it. My Red and Blue are also in the works (I'm more fond of my Blue, but there's just not enough to merit a single audition).
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Post by Aricos on Apr 16, 2009 0:28:17 GMT
If you're referring to the organization that I'm hoping to put into place, that -is- fun for me. And also, its purpose is to hopefully make this more fun for all of you, in the sense that information will be easier to find, which is something that a lot of people said was causing them confusion and possibly in some cases stopped or discouraged them from participating. Strict order is no fun, I agree. But some organization is more fun than utter chaos which is usually a headache for all involved. Sure, if the organizing thing is your idea of fun, then don't let me stop you ! I do think a bit of streamlining is good for the project. I mean, seriously, we can't all pile everything on poor Sand... That would be very inconsiderate of us! I mostly feared that it might become too "professional". I know that if a fan-project becomes very serious, slick and professional looking organization-wise by the time I find out about it, I'd be more intimidated and less likely to join . I think my brain might have become a biiiit too over-imaginative the moment you suddenly started saying things like "In the movie industry, this is how it works". I started imaging a "Britain's got talent" thing going on for voice actors, with mostly negative feedback given in the hopes of getting us mostly noobish voice actors into tip-top shape :s... I don't know about you, but that does not quite make me want to join in on the fun :x... But I see that was NOT your intention. Thank you for clearing my confusion . I'm happy to know there is someone willing to help with the often thankless job of organizing ! (Was that somewhat understandable? English is not my first language and my grammar sometimes gets confusing :/...)
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Post by Ulysses on Apr 16, 2009 0:33:42 GMT
When does the audition period end? I'm sure I've seen the date in this thread somewhere but I'm quite tired and I can't find it now.
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Post by Aricos on Apr 16, 2009 0:37:49 GMT
When does the audition period end? I think it was end of this month or something :/. There wasn't an exact date given as far as I can remember.
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