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Post by Deepbluediver on Nov 12, 2013 16:03:10 GMT
Yet after seeing Parley and Smitty? You make a good point, and like I said, Annie isn't entirely oblivious, but she spent a lot more time around Parley and Smitty (all those meditation lessons) than she's spent with Paz (AFAIK). Plus, as I alluded to before, I don't know how prevalent or accepted same-gender relationships are in the GKC universe; it might be more obvious to look for a traditional male/female pairing than a f/f or m/m one. Edit: In addition, I think Parley and Smitty spent a lot more time with EACH OTHER and in denial before acknowledging their mutual attraction, whereas Paz might have just been a good friend, and once she got up the courage to confess, Kat decided to forgo all the drama and give it a shot. So it's a lot easier to see her and Paz just keep being friends when they are around other people, as opposed to Parley and Smitty intentionally acting weird to prove that they are not really attracted to one another. Edit2: I admit that it's entirely possible that when/if Kat and Paz let everyone know (which isn't guaranteed; I've known more than one clandestine relationship to break up before it's existence was public knowledge, PARTICULARLY the so-called "experimental" ones) that the general response will be something like "oh we saw that coming" or "I always knew there was something different about you" but I haven't seen any evidence to support that premise. |
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Post by Lightice on Nov 12, 2013 16:05:41 GMT
I got this picture in my head of Kat coming out to her parents that I just can't shake: "Oh, you broke up with Annie? That's too bad, she's such a nice girl."  |
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Post by philman on Nov 12, 2013 18:25:05 GMT
I got this picture in my head of Kat coming out to her parents that I just can't shake: "Oh, you broke up with Annie? That's too bad, she's such a nice girl." Really? Why? They are just two 14 year old good friends, there has never been any hints of anything else going on there, not like Kat and Paz which had strong hints and subtle glances going on well in advance |
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Post by crater on Nov 12, 2013 18:28:26 GMT
I got this picture in my head of Kat coming out to her parents that I just can't shake: "Oh, you broke up with Annie? That's too bad, she's such a nice girl." Really? Why? They are just two 14 year old good friends, there has never been any hints of anything else going on there, not like Kat and Paz which had strong hints and subtle glances going on well in advance Whatttt...? I always got the impression that Kat's late game was Ann. |
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Post by Lightice on Nov 12, 2013 19:55:56 GMT
]Really? Why? They are just two 14 year old good friends, there has never been any hints of anything else going on there, not like Kat and Paz which had strong hints and subtle glances going on well in advance Mainly that it's been strongly implied that some people have been assuming that about Annie and Kat; Paz had to specify during her initial confession that she does know that they are just friends. And that they were one of the biggest ships on the site until recently. But mostly because I find the coming out stories where the parents don't find their child's orientation a least bit surprising or even terribly interesting after basically being aware of it for years, but are completely surprised by their choice of partner kind of hilarious. |
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Post by warrl on Nov 12, 2013 19:56:08 GMT
Whatttt...? I always got the impression that Kat's late game was Ann. Annie is, at this point, pretty much asexual and aromantic. Her one expression of curiosity did not rise above curiosity and, to me, had a faint hint of "I'm supposed to have these feelings, so I'll try it to see if anything happens." (And then Jack apparently didn't agree to participate in the experiment.) Kat, I think, sees Annie as almost a sister. I don't think they ever were or ever will be a couple. |
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Post by Lightice on Nov 12, 2013 20:03:45 GMT
]Annie is, at this point, pretty much asexual and aromantic. Her one expression of curiosity did not rise above curiosity and, to me, had a faint hint of "I'm supposed to have these feelings, so I'll try it to see if anything happens." That much is not true; Annie in the Forest makes that fairly clear. She's going through the same teenage stuff as Kat. She's just keeping it under the wraps even more. As far as the ship goes, the comic has teased the possibility through a fair bit of symbology, but as far as character chemistry goes, your guess is as good as mine. I do think that Annie and Kat are meant to represent a connection over the line that separates the Court and Forest philosophies, but how that'll come to pass isn't exactly clear at this point. |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2013 0:36:53 GMT
I agree: after all, Annie's never been the most astute about relationships, though more so in the past. Not surprising when your only childhood companions are your mother, death gods, and pyro ghosts. |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 13, 2013 1:21:13 GMT
So? What do you think it proves? It demonstrates that Annie got even more thoroughly exasperated with these two than she was a few months before, yes. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 13, 2013 1:25:01 GMT
So? What do you think it proves? It demonstrates that Annie got even more thoroughly exasperated with these two than she was a few months before, yes. I don't see how she's exasperated with them... ...what about that situation with Jack? I wonder why she did that? |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2013 1:30:50 GMT
So? What do you think it proves? It demonstrates that Annie got even more thoroughly exasperated with these two than she was a few months before, yes. Seems more like she is oblivious that they're having an intimate moment. Not exasperated; though it's possible, I think Tom would have played that differently. |
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 13, 2013 2:04:32 GMT
So? What do you think it proves? It demonstrates that Annie got even more thoroughly exasperated with these two than she was a few months before, yes. I don't see how she's exasperated with them...  ...what about that situation with Jack? I wonder why she did that? ? So? What do you think it proves? It demonstrates that Annie got even more thoroughly exasperated with these two than she was a few months before, yes. Seems more like she is oblivious that they're having an intimate moment. Not exasperated; though it's possible, She acts oblivious. Is there any reason to assume she actually is? Let alone comparable to the two scenes where she plainly states it's insufferably blatant even for her. They both knew they are all over each other (in different way) long ago, and Annie knows this, so why she would consider it a fragile and delicate moment, rather than merely the sort of drama that allows her to annoy them back? She's vindictive, did you notice?  This particular notion almost never end up with good predictions, does it?  |
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 13, 2013 2:10:45 GMT
I don't see how she's exasperated with them... ...what about that situation with Jack? I wonder why she did that? ? Seems more like she is oblivious that they're having an intimate moment. Not exasperated; though it's possible, She acts oblivious. Is there any reason to assume she actually is? Let alone comparable to the two scenes where she plainly states it's insufferably blatant even for her. They both knew they are all over each other (in different way) long ago, and Annie knows this, so why she would consider it a fragile and delicate moment, rather than merely the sort of drama that allows her to annoy them back? She's vindictive, did you notice? This particular notion almost never end up with good predictions, does it? All your points are both valid and valuable. I still think, however, due to a different interpretation of the evidence, that she is still not too good with relationships: furthermore, she is the only major character without a pairing of some sort (Jack did not count). That, however, could be me projecting myself onto her character. Very much possible. Take that how you will. |
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Post by crater on Nov 13, 2013 2:35:02 GMT
Whatttt...? I always got the impression that Kat's late game was Ann. Annie is, at this point, pretty much asexual and aromantic. Her one expression of curiosity did not rise above curiosity and, to me, had a faint hint of "I'm supposed to have these feelings, so I'll try it to see if anything happens." (And then Jack apparently didn't agree to participate in the experiment.) Kat, I think, sees Annie as almost a sister. I don't think they ever were or ever will be a couple. I agree with you about Ann being pretty uninterested in romance at the moment. ( Atleast romance with normal people, though she's looking for a guy who will fit her ideas.) But I don't agree Kat sees Ann like a sister. Kat is too defensive of Ann Kat has joked to Ann about being "her main man" *something that would be really creepy to say to your sister* Kat finds reasons to touch Ann ' Kat is willing to do things for Ann she normally would never consider doing but to me what proves Kat is into Ann is that: Renard and Zimmy seem to know about Kat's "lesbianism". Since we don't see Kat hanging around many other girls. We can conclude the only girl Kat has been seen "looking at" is Ann. |
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Post by nero on Nov 13, 2013 3:03:44 GMT
Kat and Annie are each others first and best friend. Kat invited Annie to join her family on vacation because she wants Annie to belong to a family. We don't see Kat hang around with anyone else at the beginning of the comic but Annie and Alistair because they were the only ones that were friendly towards her. When they got older they became friends with the other students in their class.
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 13, 2013 3:08:51 GMT
The situation with Jack:
She pretended to like him to get back at him? How did that work?
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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 13, 2013 3:15:57 GMT
Annie is, at this point, pretty much asexual and aromantic. Her one expression of curiosity did not rise above curiosity and, to me, had a faint hint of "I'm supposed to have these feelings, so I'll try it to see if anything happens." (And then Jack apparently didn't agree to participate in the experiment.) Kat, I think, sees Annie as almost a sister. I don't think they ever were or ever will be a couple. I agree with you about Ann being pretty uninterested in romance at the moment. ( Atleast romance with normal people, though she's looking for a guy who will fit her ideas.) But I don't agree Kat sees Ann like a sister. Kat is too defensive of Ann Kat has joked to Ann about being "her main man" *something that would be really creepy to say to your sister* Kat finds reasons to touch Ann ' Kat is willing to do things for Ann she normally would never consider doing but to me what proves Kat is into Ann is that: Renard and Zimmy seem to know about Kat's "lesbianism". Since we don't see Kat hanging around many other girls. We can conclude the only girl Kat has been seen "looking at" is Ann. No, I think that Kat and Annie are just really close friends. Quasiromantic, but still platonic. Young gurls often develop tight friendships like that. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Nov 13, 2013 4:29:30 GMT
The situation with Jack: She pretended to like him to get back at him? How did that work? Remember "Faraway Morning"? She was acting all flirty towards him, offered him the blinker stone (knowing full well that that's a romantic gesture), led him out to the balcony to be alone with him.... and then said "I don't think I like you that much." Jack trumped her by immediately rebounding and confessing that he only has eyes for Zimmy. |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Nov 13, 2013 8:20:01 GMT
"Hmm. Unsure about my reaction. Further testing is required." Seeing as she was agonising over whether Paz liked her or not I'd say that the kiss meant something to her!  Sorry about the super late reply, but just in case: Well, yeah - that's the joke! Like when someone asks you if something is good and you take a bite and say "Mmmm" then say, "No, it's awful, I'll eat it so you won't have to". The emphasis on my post isn't on the unsure reaction, it's on further testing being required. |
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Post by warrl on Nov 13, 2013 8:48:03 GMT
I saw the thing with Jack as "I know this hugging and kissing stuff is important to a lot of people. I wonder what it feels like. But I don't want Jack thinking I'm serious about it."
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Post by snipertom on Nov 13, 2013 11:42:11 GMT
I saw the thing with Jack as "I know this hugging and kissing stuff is important to a lot of people. I wonder what it feels like. But I don't want Jack thinking I'm serious about it." What a hussy! Wait, wasn't her aim to draw Jack in and then break his heart in some kind of weird revenge? Subconsciously? I didn't really understand that bit at all |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 13, 2013 11:43:22 GMT
Seeing as she was agonising over whether Paz liked her or not I'd say that the kiss meant something to her! Sorry about the super late reply, but just in case: Well, yeah - that's the joke! Like when someone asks you if something is good and you take a bite and say "Mmmm" then say, "No, it's awful, I'll eat it so you won't have to". The emphasis on my post isn't on the unsure reaction, it's on further testing being required. Oh I quoted the wrong post sorry! Someone else commented something about not knowing whether it meant anything to Kat. I totally understood YOUR post |
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Post by Gulby on Nov 13, 2013 11:54:54 GMT
[...] Wait, wasn't her aim to draw Jack in and then break his heart in some kind of weird revenge? Subconsciously? I didn't really understand that bit at all That's what I understood too. She was upset because of the pain he inflicted to Reynardine when in the power station, so she wanted to take revenge and, as a social freak, she thought of a romantic-like revenge, but... It just didn't work... xD |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 13, 2013 12:13:45 GMT
[...] Wait, wasn't her aim to draw Jack in and then break his heart in some kind of weird revenge? Subconsciously? I didn't really understand that bit at all That's what I understood too. She was upset because of the pain he inflicted to Reynardine when in the power station, so she wanted to take revenge and, as a social freak, she thought of a romantic-like revenge, but... It just didn't work... xD I think she also kinda liked him too, that's the bit that confuses me. And also, like, people who do that intentional thing? I don't get it. |
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Post by exdevlin on Nov 13, 2013 15:22:49 GMT
I think it's kind of sweet that Tom purposefully arranged the kiss from this perspectie, rather than the cliche side profile of two people kissing. It gives it much more of an innocense. Also: EAT IT KAZPATHATERS Funny, this is actually the only thing I'm disappointed about. God, I'm such a hopeless shipper. It's okay, you get EXACTLY what you wanted in the next strip anyway! |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 13, 2013 16:11:12 GMT
WHO CARES HOW ITS LOOKED AT, THEY KISSED! |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Nov 13, 2013 18:25:38 GMT
'Cause seriously, that was a light peck on the lips; it should rate about a 0.5 on the makeout Richter-scale. Ok...consider myself corrected. Today's update should probably rate significantly higher. |
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Post by sapientcoffee on Nov 13, 2013 21:24:25 GMT
Sorry about the super late reply, but just in case: Well, yeah - that's the joke! Like when someone asks you if something is good and you take a bite and say "Mmmm" then say, "No, it's awful, I'll eat it so you won't have to". The emphasis on my post isn't on the unsure reaction, it's on further testing being required. Oh I quoted the wrong post sorry! Someone else commented something about not knowing whether it meant anything to Kat. I totally understood YOUR post Haha. It's all good. Also, yay! |
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