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Post by bansheekitty on Nov 8, 2013 19:08:54 GMT
This video is the very best thing. I have sent it to people who don't even read the comic.
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 19:18:18 GMT
This video is the very best thing. I have sent it to people who don't even read the comic. Nice vid
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 19:19:15 GMT
I guess the kiss was a consolation prize for the lack of steam. ...I hope GKC won't escalate to steam...
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 8, 2013 20:15:04 GMT
It's all politics, played out in miniature. I do respect Tom for taking a stance on such a controversial issue Indeed. Everything is politics. Authors don't write things in stories for story reasons, they always Take Stance and then Imply things. BTW... you aren't Wikipedia fan, by any chance? I wonder if the haters are misinterpreting Tom's intentions? I'm sure many less talented comic creators throw in lesbians in their stories for no reason except that they think it's hot or because they want more page views or whatever. This is clearly not the case here. Tom knows what he's doing and is handling this as expertly as he does with everything in GC. Haetorz encroach. Stay ever vigilant. BTW, do you agree with Daedalus approach above?
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Post by noone3 on Nov 8, 2013 21:03:09 GMT
Girl cooties of course. ...wait a minute... My thought exactly. Also wandering if girls can get cooties... from girls.
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 21:05:08 GMT
Girl cooties of course. ...wait a minute... My thought exactly. Also wandering if girls can get cooties... from girls. Can someone define cooties for me? I can't recall what it was... though apparently they're from girls? I remember in elementary where it was hilarious when trying to chase guys away.
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Post by takesailorhunt on Nov 8, 2013 23:13:15 GMT
I feel that shouldn't have worked... The smoke might have helped. Who knows what mind-altering chemicals were in that smoke? Just remembered what this page reminded me of... Thanks for the reminder... chemicals are everywhere! Oh yes, I should also check out Girl Genius more.
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Chendzee'a
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Post by Chendzee'a on Nov 9, 2013 0:12:50 GMT
You know I've been thinking a lot about Kat lately. A lot of people throw the topic of her liking boys? Okay so, at the very base thought process on that then, she could be considered Bisexual. But there is possibly more to it than just that. A: perhaps she finally discovered her inner lesbian, which happens a LOT in reality, some women even went so far to get married and have children. B: She is simply discovering her sexuality and is testing the waters, just to see, again it happens all the time. How many awkward moments of discovery and experiments have any of you had when you were that age? C: She's a freak on leash. No.... that most definitely is not the case. I personally think. If you look back on Kat and quite possibly Paz, it's hard to tell as we know little of her back story thus far. Before Annie, Kat had no friends, she was an outcast, misunderstood and pretty lonely. No one seemed interested in her, no one took a chance on her. The one time she had a relationship he turned into a bird... Paz too is an outsider, she seemed to barely speak English at the start of the story and later had abysmal luck fitting in. But Kaz understood what that was like and reached out to her. I think on both of their parts. It was more a matter of two lonely young women saying. "Hey she's really nice and sees me as a person, I like her." Then after that awkward moment where they had the misunderstanding it was just a matter of them thinking. "What would that be like? Would it be so bad?" Paz being proactive, which she is, acted on it. Took a chance, like she said. Why not try, there is no harm in it. She saw Kat as a caring person first, a girl second. She likes "Kat", I think her gender has no bearing on it once she thought about. As for Kat, it was much the same way, but Kat was more insecure about the notion, which she is. She's very nervous when out of her element. She's clearly been thinking about it, even if she couldn't express it or even realize it. In the end. Paz broke the ice and said "Hey lets try, and see what happens... Which Kat was happy to agree too." Because in the end. "Why not?" It's more about the two of them liking each other for who they are, not what they are. "I'm already impressed." As Paz said. It's very sweet.
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Post by Daedalus on Nov 9, 2013 0:34:03 GMT
It's all politics, played out in miniature. I do respect Tom for taking a stance on such a controversial issue Indeed. Everything is politics. Authors don't write things in stories for story reasons, they always Take Stance and then Imply things. BTW... you aren't Wikipedia fan, by any chance? I wonder if the haters are misinterpreting Tom's intentions? I'm sure many less talented comic creators throw in lesbians in their stories for no reason except that they think it's hot or because they want more page views or whatever. This is clearly not the case here. Tom knows what he's doing and is handling this as expertly as he does with everything in GC. Haetorz encroach. Stay ever vigilant. BTW, do you agree with Daedalus approach above? I am uncertain what you mean by 'Wikipedia fan'? I meant that the comments reflect current political climates, not that Tom was playing at politics. And, to clarify something that may have been misinterpreted in an earlier comment, I greatly support the right to marriage for everyone, regardless of their genders.
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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 9, 2013 0:45:30 GMT
I greatly support the right to marriage for everyone, regardless of their genders. Arizonans: Surprisingly progressive.
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Post by sotha on Nov 9, 2013 0:46:56 GMT
And so it is Kat that ends up surprised by this! Haha, her eye in the sixth panel.
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Post by nero on Nov 9, 2013 1:09:11 GMT
We can see that the kiss meant something to Paz but did it mean something special to Kat or was it just a surprise kiss. We'll either see her thoughts on it or someone will come by to ask what's up with the smoke.
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 1:10:28 GMT
You know I've been thinking a lot about Kat lately. A lot of people throw the topic of her liking boys? Okay so, at the very base thought process on that then, she could be considered Bisexual. But there is possibly more to it than just that. A: perhaps she finally discovered her inner lesbian, which happens a LOT in reality, some women even went so far to get married and have children. B: She is simply discovering her sexuality and is testing the waters, just to see, again it happens all the time. How many awkward moments of discovery and experiments have any of you had when you were that age? C: She's a freak on leash. No.... that most definitely is not the case. I personally think. If you look back on Kat and quite possibly Paz, it's hard to tell as we know little of her back story thus far. Before Annie, Kat had no friends, she was an outcast, misunderstood and pretty lonely. No one seemed interested in her, no one took a chance on her. The one time she had a relationship he turned into a bird... Paz too is an outsider, she seemed to barely speak English at the start of the story and later had abysmal luck fitting in. But Kaz understood what that was like and reached out to her. I think on both of their parts. It was more a matter of two lonely young women saying. "Hey she's really nice and sees me as a person, I like her." Then after that awkward moment where they had the misunderstanding it was just a matter of them thinking. "What would that be like? Would it be so bad?" Paz being proactive, which she is, acted on it. Took a chance, like she said. Why not try, there is no harm in it. She saw Kat as a caring person first, a girl second. She likes "Kat", I think her gender has no bearing on it once she thought about. As for Kat, it was much the same way, but Kat was more insecure about the notion, which she is. She's very nervous when out of her element. She's clearly been thinking about it, even if she couldn't express it or even realize it. In the end. Paz broke the ice and said "Hey lets try, and see what happens... Which Kat was happy to agree too." Because in the end. "Why not?" It's more about the two of them liking each other for who they are, not what they are. "I'm already impressed." As Paz said. It's very sweet. Getting together out of mutual loneliness would bode for co-dependent unpleasantness :*( Fortunately I think they're too well-adjusted and have enough friends (even robutt & aetheric ones) for that Totally agree with you though about them liking each other for who they really are rather than because they are a 'generic single girl'
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Post by sapientcoffee on Nov 9, 2013 4:58:00 GMT
We can see that the kiss meant something to Paz but did it mean something special to Kat or was it just a surprise kiss. We'll either see her thoughts on it or someone will come by to ask what's up with the smoke. "Hmm. Unsure about my reaction. Further testing is required."
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 9, 2013 4:59:02 GMT
Can someone define cooties for me? Supposedly, yes, cooties are some kind of weird, ill-defined disease one can get from fraternizing with the reviled female gender, or from fraternizing with anyone who has done such fraternizing. In truth, cooties are lice.
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Post by arf on Nov 9, 2013 5:36:37 GMT
Nobody seemed to get upset when Andrew started dating George. That's because Parley is a girl. Or were you referring to her father? Does no-one do irony as a form of humour any more?
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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 9, 2013 6:23:53 GMT
I'd like to dedicate this page to the PazxKat haters who said it was dumb/weird/creepy/would never happen. Sweet vindication. There's a PazKat AMV? Oh, why. No, past Señor Goose, you don't understand. It's imperative that you watch this video gain and again.
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 6:42:33 GMT
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Post by Chendzee'a on Nov 9, 2013 7:14:37 GMT
You know I've been thinking a lot about Kat lately. A lot of people throw the topic of her liking boys? Okay so, at the very base thought process on that then, she could be considered Bisexual. But there is possibly more to it than just that. A: perhaps she finally discovered her inner lesbian, which happens a LOT in reality, some women even went so far to get married and have children. B: She is simply discovering her sexuality and is testing the waters, just to see, again it happens all the time. How many awkward moments of discovery and experiments have any of you had when you were that age? C: She's a freak on leash. No.... that most definitely is not the case. I personally think. If you look back on Kat and quite possibly Paz, it's hard to tell as we know little of her back story thus far. Before Annie, Kat had no friends, she was an outcast, misunderstood and pretty lonely. No one seemed interested in her, no one took a chance on her. The one time she had a relationship he turned into a bird... Paz too is an outsider, she seemed to barely speak English at the start of the story and later had abysmal luck fitting in. But Kaz understood what that was like and reached out to her. I think on both of their parts. It was more a matter of two lonely young women saying. "Hey she's really nice and sees me as a person, I like her." Then after that awkward moment where they had the misunderstanding it was just a matter of them thinking. "What would that be like? Would it be so bad?" Paz being proactive, which she is, acted on it. Took a chance, like she said. Why not try, there is no harm in it. She saw Kat as a caring person first, a girl second. She likes "Kat", I think her gender has no bearing on it once she thought about. As for Kat, it was much the same way, but Kat was more insecure about the notion, which she is. She's very nervous when out of her element. She's clearly been thinking about it, even if she couldn't express it or even realize it. In the end. Paz broke the ice and said "Hey lets try, and see what happens... Which Kat was happy to agree too." Because in the end. "Why not?" It's more about the two of them liking each other for who they are, not what they are. "I'm already impressed." As Paz said. It's very sweet. Getting together out of mutual loneliness would bode for co-dependent unpleasantness :*( Fortunately I think they're too well-adjusted and have enough friends (even robutt & aetheric ones) for that Totally agree with you though about them liking each other for who they really are rather than because they are a 'generic single girl' Oh agreed. I didn't mean they got together out of loneliness. It was more meant to mean that they had that in common. Kat was alone at the party and Paz ended up in a similar state. That's what lead to the "moment"
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Post by csj on Nov 9, 2013 7:36:14 GMT
I missed the initial commenting due to shenanigans, so I'll just link relevant music instead.
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Post by maxptc on Nov 9, 2013 8:18:13 GMT
Looks like a heart shaped version of a "prohibited ________" sign to me.
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 9:19:57 GMT
We can see that the kiss meant something to Paz but did it mean something special to Kat or was it just a surprise kiss. We'll either see her thoughts on it or someone will come by to ask what's up with the smoke. "Hmm. Unsure about my reaction. Further testing is required." Seeing as she was agonising over whether Paz liked her or not I'd say that the kiss meant something to her!
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Post by Toloc on Nov 9, 2013 10:31:47 GMT
So now that this page has happened, how about that heart in the fifth treatise? Treatise VBroken or bandaged? Looks like a heart shaped version of a "prohibited ________" sign to me. When you look at both heart shapes, the lower one is divided underneath, but crosses over the upper one. Kinda hard to explain, just look at it. Could be they are supposed to be intertwined or encased in each other. Might be a tad optimistic of me...
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Post by temnoc on Nov 9, 2013 13:28:02 GMT
I think it's kind of sweet that Tom purposefully arranged the kiss from this perspectie, rather than the cliche side profile of two people kissing. It gives it much more of an innocense. Also: EAT IT KAZPATHATERS Funny, this is actually the only thing I'm disappointed about. God, I'm such a hopeless shipper.
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Post by thedoctor on Nov 9, 2013 13:36:07 GMT
Sure, keep telling yourself that. told you I meant more the "she has everything under control" bit. I kinda figured there would be a kiss at the end of the scene.
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Post by Kuraru on Nov 9, 2013 14:00:42 GMT
Has anyone considered that Kat might be Bi? Or that she's just Bi-curious? Or (and I know some people will disagree that this is a thing, but) straight with exceptions? (AFAIK, you can be gay with exceptions as well) I was just thinking that it was strange that everyone assumed Kat was homosexual, when she could easily be bisexual too. There are a wide variety of orientations she could have beyond those, too (she could be biromantic and heterosexual, asexual and homoromantic, pansexual, etc.). But we don't know for sure what sexual and romantic orientation she is at the moment, and I doubt she's going to talk about it in great detail - we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 9, 2013 16:31:46 GMT
Has anyone considered that Kat might be Bi? Or that she's just Bi-curious? Or (and I know some people will disagree that this is a thing, but) straight with exceptions? (AFAIK, you can be gay with exceptions as well) I was just thinking that it was strange that everyone assumed Kat was homosexual, when she could easily be bisexual too. There are a wide variety of orientations she could have beyond those, too (she could be biromantic and heterosexual, asexual and homoromantic, pansexual, etc.). But we don't know for sure what sexual and romantic orientation she is at the moment, and I doubt she's going to talk about it in great detail - we'll have to wait and see. ...does anyone remember the... Bird... guy? Dammit, forgot his name... And that was one of the parts I read over and over! D:
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Post by snipertom on Nov 9, 2013 17:07:48 GMT
I was just thinking that it was strange that everyone assumed Kat was homosexual, when she could easily be bisexual too. There are a wide variety of orientations she could have beyond those, too (she could be biromantic and heterosexual, asexual and homoromantic, pansexual, etc.). But we don't know for sure what sexual and romantic orientation she is at the moment, and I doubt she's going to talk about it in great detail - we'll have to wait and see. ...does anyone remember the... Bird... guy? Dammit, forgot his name... And that was one of the parts I read over and over! D: ALISTAIR "ALY" KERSHAW
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 9, 2013 17:15:18 GMT
...does anyone remember the... Bird... guy? Dammit, forgot his name... And that was one of the parts I read over and over! D: ALISTAIR "ALY" KERSHAW Right, thank you. ...doesn't he count for something? Because Kat liked him too. She probably would have kept liking him if not of the whole turning into a bird situation.
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2013 17:27:05 GMT
ALISTAIR "ALY" KERSHAW Right, thank you. ...doesn't he count for something? Because Kat liked him too. She probably would have kept liking him if not of the whole turning into a bird situation. That was an entire chapter *and* her first kiss, so I guess it doesn't count for nothing There's also how she still has a thing for birds because of him. woo double-negatives
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