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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 8, 2013 14:11:22 GMT
I guess I was living under a rock were everybody was okay with lesbians. Now I've moved out into the real world, and I'm not sure I like it. I wonder if the haters are misinterpreting Tom's intentions? I'm sure many less talented comic creators throw in lesbians in their stories for no reason except that they think it's hot or because they want more page views or whatever. This is clearly not the case here. Tom knows what he's doing and is handling this as expertly as he does with everything in GC. I'm watching you carefully. |
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Post by ctso74 on Nov 8, 2013 14:33:20 GMT
Also, I'm fairly sure that Paz herself, and KatxPaz will actually be relevant to the plot. It already has. The biohybrid robot project is set back a few weeks. I'm pretty sure the seraphs aren't impressed by this, especially if the find out why the very first limb test was ruined.  :-) I was just thinking the same thing. Zealots can be unpredictable. What would Robot do, if he perceived someone as a threat to Kat's "well being"? "Well being" is a tricky term. Add a dash of jealousy to fanaticism, and we could get terrible results. What if, the others thought Kat needed motivation? For her own good, of course. Motivating accidents can happen. What would Kat do, to give Paz a new arm? |
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Post by hargharg on Nov 8, 2013 14:38:19 GMT
ctso74, you just made me worried now... -_-
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Post by snipertom on Nov 8, 2013 15:09:11 GMT
I was more thinking that despite the initial set-back, Paz's understanding of biology & animals would probably have an even bigger influence & inspiration on the biobots Robutts... Pigoens... Aetherium... with your powers combined, I am... CAPTAIN BIOBOT! I guess I was living under a rock were everybody was okay with lesbians. Now I've moved out into the real world, and I'm not sure I like it. IF ONLY I KNEW SWEDISH I WOULD TOTALLY FIND SOMEONE TO ELOPE TO YOUR ROCK WITH! Well, that and a willing subject lady.  Do you live in a wonderful socialist paradise? |
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Post by Rymdljus on Nov 8, 2013 15:44:16 GMT
I guess I was living under a rock were everybody was okay with lesbians. Now I've moved out into the real world, and I'm not sure I like it. IF ONLY I KNEW SWEDISH I WOULD TOTALLY FIND SOMEONE TO ELOPE TO YOUR ROCK WITH! Well, that and a willing subject lady. Do you live in a wonderful socialist paradise? Haha ^^ Socialist paradise? Well... I guess that depends on where you're coming from. ^^; My parents were a bit hippie, though. But seriously, what I said should tell you more about me than about Sweden. I am known to be a oblivious about many things, partly because I'm an air-head, and partly because I shy away from debates and such because I really hate conflicts. So, yeah... Personally, I don't see what there is to dislike about homosexuality. And I would have thought that even the most terrible of of jerks out there would be okay with gay people of the opposite gender, if only because they would find it hot to think about.  That would make sense. Sometimes I kinda wish I wasn't straight, because it is a bit confining... This is getting a bit personal and political now... Let's get back to the comic. ^^; |
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Post by Eversist on Nov 8, 2013 15:49:14 GMT
I kat wait for next week. People in the comments need to stop being little spaz's. I love you. Sooo... no explanation to this comment? Just trying to get under people's skin? Well, you win. I need to know if this is plain-old homophobia, or you just don't like the characters together (which is more understandable). Or you just don't like cheesy, adorable romance in general (but I assume it's not this case). It's eating away at me! |
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Post by keef on Nov 8, 2013 16:08:26 GMT
oh yes a great page! the greatest page! Ok slightly corny, but I love this page. It's all politics, played out in miniature. I do respect Tom for taking a stance on such a controversial issue, saying that this a lesbian relationship is totally fine between major characters here. At least, with the information we currently have. I wouldn't say he's "taking a stance," but rather just doing what for him is a natural part of the progression of characters and plot. And that's why it works: he's not soapboxing (or at least it doesn't seem to be his intention). It's just what the story calls for and he'll do it, politics be damned. Agreed, and its weird that such a nice page in a comic will again lead to 5 pages of awkward discussion. But if that makes people feel good about themselves, so be it. |
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Post by Shire on Nov 8, 2013 16:26:10 GMT
Nobody seemed to get upset when Andrew started dating George. That's because Parley is a girl. Or were you referring to her father? Hah, wow. It didn't even register when I first read that that he called Parley by her first name. It would be a good first line for a novel, though. |
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 8, 2013 16:42:49 GMT
Sooo... no explanation to this comment? Just trying to get under people's skin? Well, you win. I need to know if this is plain-old homophobia, or you just don't like the characters together (which is more understandable). Or you just don't like cheesy, adorable romance in general (but I assume it's not this case). It's eating away at me! It'll be to the boxbot Kat just saw off-frame. Kat will point it out to Paz, the camera will slowly pan over and then it's just (ಠ_ಠ) (ಠ_ಠ) '| |'
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..That's really all I have to say on the matter. Maybe I'm just a stonefaced Carver or something, I dunno. |
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Post by Lightice on Nov 8, 2013 16:43:18 GMT
Sooo... no explanation to this comment? Just trying to get under people's skin? Well, you win. I need to know if this is plain-old homophobia, or you just don't like the characters together (which is more understandable). Or you just don't like cheesy, adorable romance in general (but I assume it's not this case). It's eating away at me! Maybe it's just that they were both hacking, coughing and possibly vomiting right before that kiss?  |
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Post by Per on Nov 8, 2013 16:44:41 GMT
I don't think this kind of relationship is all right, but I'm not a hater; I have friends who are homosexual, and while I don't approve of their morals in this particular regard Morals? Being homosexual? I'm not sure what kind of implications are being implicated here. What are the morals in regards to being left-handed or blue-haired? However... Sooo... no explanation to this comment? "Ew" is a legitimate reaction to ANY KISSING. |
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Post by Purgatorius on Nov 8, 2013 16:46:19 GMT
IF ONLY I KNEW SWEDISH I WOULD TOTALLY FIND SOMEONE TO ELOPE TO YOUR ROCK WITH! Well, that and a willing subject lady. Don't worry about that. Everyone in our fine socialist paradise speaks english fluently (or at least better than many people on the internet  ). |
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 8, 2013 16:48:51 GMT
Maybe it's just that they were both hacking, coughing and possibly vomiting right before that kiss? That's Paz's fetish. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 17:00:58 GMT
Maybe it's just that they were both hacking, coughing and possibly vomiting right before that kiss? That's Paz's fetish. ...that's a fairly odd fetish. Tipping on the verge of disgusting. Reminds me of the time someone mentioned a dare where you have to kiss a person during a designated amount of time. Imagine how disgusting that would get. |
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Post by exdevlin on Nov 8, 2013 17:08:08 GMT
I think it's kind of sweet that Tom purposefully arranged the kiss from this perspectie, rather than the cliche side profile of two people kissing. It gives it much more of an innocense.
Also: EAT IT KAZPATHATERS
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Post by snipertom on Nov 8, 2013 17:09:38 GMT
IF ONLY I KNEW SWEDISH I WOULD TOTALLY FIND SOMEONE TO ELOPE TO YOUR ROCK WITH! Well, that and a willing subject lady. Don't worry about that. Everyone in our fine socialist paradise speaks english fluently (or at least better than many people on the internet ). I mean for work... I looked up the requirements for the Scandinavian countries as a doctor in general and there's a language requirement as well as an exam. Which is fair enough because that's the case for medical registration anywhere else in the world! I didn't mean to imply that any Europeans speak English anything other than awesomely (man it made it easy to visit!). Anglophones such as myself on the other hand are pathetic at foreign languages due to laziness and a lack of emphasis in the education system. The exception of course being Canada I guess! |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Nov 8, 2013 17:21:28 GMT
And you all said that Kat's plan wouldn't work. Silly doubters. I'd like to dedicate this page to the PazxKat haters who said it was dumb/weird/creepy/would never happen. Sweet vindication. I joined the forum after reading a comment on the comic-page much like the ones in your video. Frankly, I think that people on both sides of the argument (pro and con) are making to much of a big deal of the L-word. Has anyone considered that Kat might be Bi? Or that she's just Bi-curious? Or (and I know some people will disagree that this is a thing, but) straight with exceptions? (AFAIK, you can be gay with exceptions as well) Given that these characters are YOUNG teenagers, maybe we can just enjoy watching the platonic side of the relationship unfold without arguing to much about what, if any, political/social message Tom is trying to send, and without thinking about the more skeezy rule-34 aspects. 'Cause seriously, that was a light peck on the lips; it should rate about a 0.5 on the makeout Richter-scale. |
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Post by nightwind on Nov 8, 2013 17:24:17 GMT
'Cause seriously, that was a light peck on the lips; it rates about a 0.5 on the makeout Richter-scale. As you were saying, they're young teenagers... Richter-scale for them begins with 8. You are right with the rest of your post, though. Kat before had a thing for shirtless guys, so let's see how this turns out. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 17:27:37 GMT
I'd like to dedicate this page to the PazxKat haters who said it was dumb/weird/creepy/would never happen. Sweet vindication. I joined the forum after reading a comment on the comic-page much like the ones in your video. Frankly, I think that people on both sides of the argument (pro and con) are making to much of a big deal of the L-word. Has anyone considered that Kat might be Bi? Or that she's just Bi-curious? Or (and I know some people will disagree that this is a thing, but) straight with exceptions? (AFAIK, you can be gay with exceptions as well) Given that these characters are YOUNG teenagers, maybe we can just enjoy watching the platonic side of the relationship unfold without arguing to much about what, if any, political/social message Tom is trying to send, and without thinking about the more skeezy rule-34 aspects. 'Cause seriously, that was a light peck on the lips; it should rate about a 0.5 on the makeout Richter-scale. Isn't it kind of... narrow minded to say that for the rest of your life, you'll never be anything other than straight? You never know. There are KatxPaz haters? To that I say, "If you don't like it, don't read it. I can't make you change your mind, but keep it to yourself and don't diss it." |
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 8, 2013 17:28:50 GMT
that was a light peck on the lips |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 8, 2013 17:30:25 GMT
I'd like to dedicate this page to the PazxKat haters who said it was dumb/weird/creepy/would never happen. Sweet vindication. I joined the forum after reading a comment on the comic-page much like the ones in your video. Frankly, I think that people on both sides of the argument (pro and con) are making to much of a big deal of the L-word. Has anyone considered that Kat might be Bi? Or that she's just Bi-curious? Or (and I know some people will disagree that this is a thing, but) straight with exceptions? (AFAIK, you can be gay with exceptions as well) Given that these characters are YOUNG teenagers, maybe we can just enjoy watching the platonic side of the relationship unfold without arguing to much about what, if any, political/social message Tom is trying to send, and without thinking about the more skeezy rule-34 aspects. 'Cause seriously, that was a light peck on the lips; it should rate about a 0.5 on the makeout Richter-scale. Oh yeah there was a many many page discussion about already (that a few chapters ago) which spawned another few huge discussions including one dedicated just to general gender/sexuality stuff. And I think the conclusion was that Kat & Paz are probably both bi or undefined or undecided but no matter what it's all cool  Though there were also a not-insignificant number of people (minority) who thought it was just Kat and Paz being 'good friends' or that Kat and Paz hooking up in any way was some sort of betrayal  |
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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 8, 2013 17:30:40 GMT
I'd like to dedicate this page to the PazxKat haters who said it was dumb/weird/creepy/would never happen. Sweet vindication. I joined the forum after reading a comment on the comic-page much like the ones in your video. Frankly, I think that people on both sides of the argument (pro and con) are making to much of a big deal of the L-word. Has anyone considered that Kat might be Bi? Or that she's just Bi-curious? Or (and I know some people will disagree that this is a thing, but) straight with exceptions? (AFAIK, you can be gay with exceptions as well) Given that these characters are YOUNG teenagers, maybe we can just enjoy watching the platonic side of the relationship unfold without arguing to much about what, if any, political/social message Tom is trying to send, and without thinking about the more skeezy rule-34 aspects. 'Cause seriously, that was a light peck on the lips; it should rate about a 0.5 on the makeout Richter-scale. I like you. Welcome to the forum. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 17:31:24 GMT
that was a light peck on the lips ...sure You can't really define the length accurately because it's a comic, but you get the feeling it's short. |
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Post by snipertom on Nov 8, 2013 17:32:07 GMT
that was a light peck on the lips lesser things have given me butterflies. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Heck it was more intense than Kat's first kiss! |
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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 8, 2013 17:34:03 GMT
...sure You can't really define the length accurately because it's a comic, but you get the feeling it's short. How can you tell? What if it took several minutes? Or days? What if the time difference between the penultimate panel an the last one is years? |
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Post by The Anarch on Nov 8, 2013 17:39:28 GMT
I'm sure I'm not the only one. Indeed you are not. In all seriousness, I personally find kisses of most any kind - including light pecks - very very awesome. I once wrote a fanfic in which the two main characters hooked up, and the deal was sealed with a kiss. I got a review from someone saying that they thought the kiss was very overdone and the description went on too long, and indeed it did take up an entire, very descriptive paragraph. I had to tell the fellah that I had actually restrained myself and that I could have gone on for much much longer about the wonders and delights of a kiss. Kissing is one of the most wonderful of human inventions/interactions. |
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Post by quinkgirl on Nov 8, 2013 17:44:36 GMT
I'm sure I'm not the only one. Indeed you are not. In all seriousness, I personally find kisses of most any kind - including light pecks - very very awesome. I once wrote a fanfic in which the two main characters hooked up, and the deal was sealed with a kiss. I got a review from someone saying that they thought the kiss was very overdone and the description went on too long, and indeed it did take up an entire, very descriptive paragraph. I had to tell the fellah that I had actually restrained myself and that I could have gone on for much much longer about the wonders and delights of a kiss. Kissing is one of the most wonderful of human inventions/interactions. I've never read too many "kiss descriptions," despite all the fanfics. |
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Post by Señor Goose on Nov 8, 2013 17:47:08 GMT
I'm sure I'm not the only one. Indeed you are not. In all seriousness, I personally find kisses of most any kind - including light pecks - very very awesome. I once wrote a fanfic in which the two main characters hooked up, and the deal was sealed with a kiss. I got a review from someone saying that they thought the kiss was very overdone and the description went on too long, and indeed it did take up an entire, very descriptive paragraph. I had to tell the fellah that I had actually restrained myself and that I could have gone on for much much longer about the wonders and delights of a kiss. Kissing is one of the most wonderful of human inventions/interactions. Dammit... Now I need to find this fanfic. |
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Post by Deepbluediver on Nov 8, 2013 17:47:35 GMT
As you were saying, they're young teenagers... Richter-scale for them begins with 8. I edited my post to read that "it SHOULD rate..." Because, yes, teenagers rarely have an adults perspective, and for them holding hands can be like "gosh golly Jenny hooked up with Brad, but then got drunk at the party and hooked up with Mark, and Brad got revenge by hooking up with Stacy, and then Stacy and Mark decided to get together....etc etc etc" in terms of drama. Edit: Did...did the forum auto-edit my post? Pretty sure I typed [O][M][G], somewhat sarcastically. Edit2: Reading the rules after the fact (not the smartest thing, probably), that seems to be what likely happened. Isn't it kind of... narrow minded to say that for the rest of your life, you'll never be anything other than straight? Well, yes, that was exactly what I was saying, except make it read "straight or gay". I believe that sexual orientation can change, but I also believe that people can be attracted to one another in a non-sexual or abnormally sexual manner (not being derogatory, using "abnormal" to mean non-standard or unusual). I think several famous philosophers have posited much the same thing. Oh yeah there was a many many page discussion about already (that a few chapters ago) which spawned another few huge discussions including one dedicated just to general gender/sexuality stuff. And I think the conclusion was that Kat & Paz are probably both bi or undefined or undecided but no matter what it's all cool. Apparently I'm late to the party then. Not surprising, really, though honestly I wish that these sorts of things WEREN'T such lightning rods for drama. Particularly on the internet, who I presume to be populated mostly by young, intelligent, forward-thinking individuals despite all evidence to the contrary. (the young tend to lean more towards progressiveness while the elderly more towards conservatism, whatever the era or culture) |
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Post by Covalent on Nov 8, 2013 18:26:14 GMT
I guess the kiss was a consolation prize for the lack of steam. |
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That would make sense.
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