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Post by cenit on Jul 30, 2008 4:41:33 GMT
. I mean, for Tesla's sake, they're 12. Hahahaha, for Tesla's sake... that was great, I have to think of something like that to use for myself... perhaps related to psychoanalisys.... for Freud's sake? something like that
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Post by starburst98 on Aug 1, 2008 1:23:19 GMT
just thought of something,
flip everyone's genders. if kat was a boy and eglamore was a woman, would we even be having this argument?
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Post by jubal on Aug 1, 2008 7:35:04 GMT
I often go for "Damn you, Freud!" in particularly Freudian situations.
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Post by CoyoteKing on Aug 1, 2008 14:54:56 GMT
just thought of something, flip everyone's genders. if kat was a boy and eglamore was a woman, would we even be having this argument? No. Also, if Kat were a boy no one would be freaked out by the prospect of a romantic interest by either Kat or Annie. For some reason the idea that young people at that age can perceive their attraction to their same gender seems to freak a lot of people out, I think it's generally because homosexuality is still thought of in many ways as a sexual 'fetish' rather than a natural deviation.
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Post by cespinarve on Aug 1, 2008 17:15:15 GMT
just thought of something, flip everyone's genders. if kat was a boy and eglamore was a woman, would we even be having this argument? No. Also, if Kat were a boy no one would be freaked out by the prospect of a romantic interest by either Kat or Annie. For some reason the idea that young people at that age can perceive their attraction to their same gender seems to freak a lot of people out, I think it's generally because homosexuality is still thought of in many ways as a sexual 'fetish' rather than a natural deviation. And even there you see it. I wouldn't even call it a "deviation", the word is just too loaded. Mind you, judging by the Thesaurus: thesaurus.reference.com/browse/deviationNone of those words are very apt.
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Post by starburst98 on Aug 9, 2008 14:27:29 GMT
this is a social experiment, if i guess right then there should be a pattern in here.
this is a list of all possible relationships in a notation format
M/M, gay M/F, "normal" M/f, pedo(type L) M/m, pedo(type S) F/F, les F/f, pedo(type Y) F/m, pedo(type SS) m/m, young gay m/f, ...normal kids? f/f, young les
now order them from most acceptable to least acceptable, you only need type the short-hand (M/F, M/f, m/f, etc) and post it.
for those who don't get the shorthand M= adult male F= adult female m= young male f= young female
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Post by Per on Aug 9, 2008 14:29:46 GMT
This can't lead to anything good.
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Post by etcetera on Aug 9, 2008 14:38:14 GMT
I find all that acceptable, as long as they are all happy and don't hurt anyone.
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Post by agasa on Aug 9, 2008 15:59:37 GMT
While i do not have anything against homosexuality, i feel that heated discussion over a topic such as the mutual sexual feelings of two young girls that're merely 13, like them, is pretty pointless, not saying despicable, revolting, etc, whatever their feelings for each other are.
That said, i guess it's pretty clear that at least kat is straight, given the mutual crush she had on Alistar, and the lifelong crush she has on Eggy. I guess that Annie has other things on her mind than love. Their relationship is, at least for now, a pure and simple "best friend" stuff.
I've got the impression that big part of this argument stemmed from a famous line from a, hear me, a certain body snatching demon, in his "snark-prone" form, that is no one else than the cousin of the Trickster himself. This negates, from my POV, the validity of the argument.
In any case, if Tom (let's not forget that the Author has a big word in it, as this is probably a comic, heh) decides to make a totally destructive and suicidal move like a romantic relation between them, i hope him best luck, the girls best luck, and uhm, i'll probably cry (unless Tom demonstrates once more that He can manage the thing smoothly like He ever does, in that case i would be delighted and very amazed)... Let's just hope this whole thing will not jump the shark in a steamy ball of lesbianism and Metal Gear Solid. I deem this unlikely tho. Tom has a mind in that head, good one, and he will not let his work rot like that.
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Post by CoyoteKing on Aug 9, 2008 19:18:27 GMT
While i do not have anything against homosexuality, i feel that heated discussion over a topic such as the mutual sexual feelings of two young girls that're merely 13, like them, is pretty pointless, not saying despicable, revolting, etc, whatever their feelings for each other are. That said, i guess it's pretty clear that at least kat is straight, given the mutual crush she had on Alistar, and the lifelong crush she has on Eggy. I guess that Annie has other things on her mind than love. Their relationship is, at least for now, a pure and simple "best friend" stuff. I've got the impression that big part of this argument stemmed from a famous line from a, hear me, a certain body snatching demon, in his "snark-prone" form, that is no one else than the cousin of the Trickster himself. This negates, from my POV, the validity of the argument. In any case, if Tom (let's not forget that the Author has a big word in it, as this is probably a comic, heh) decides to make a totally destructive and suicidal move like a romantic relation between them, i hope him best luck, the girls best luck, and uhm, i'll probably cry (unless Tom demonstrates once more that He can manage the thing smoothly like He ever does, in that case i would be delighted and very amazed)... Let's just hope this whole thing will not jump the shark in a steamy ball of lesbianism and Metal Gear Solid. I deem this unlikely tho. Tom has a mind in that head, good one, and he will not let his work rot like that. Firstly on the point of Kat's sexuality; nothing can be said definitively at this point in time. Her two crushes are by no means evidence of strict heterosexuality. Secondly; I take issue with your comment that seems to imply that if Tom were to decide to make the girls pursue a relationship with each other it would be a disaster/mistake. I take issue with this because frankly I don't think any plot point can ever be in and of itself a disaster or mistake and it is rather in the execution that we find if it was an error. In fact for me it is more often that straight relationships in media tend to fail (from a story standpoint) because of their tendency to fall into stereotypes, whereas with a good writer/storyteller at the helm gay relationships can be done much better. That doesn't mean either is automatically better than the other though, because in the end it depends on who's telling the story. Wherever Tom decides to take the characters (if in fact he even decides to take them in into any relationships of that nature) I trust that he has the ability and foresight to do it without tainting the comic.
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Post by Neon on Aug 10, 2008 12:39:45 GMT
Not appropriate.
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Post by Klex on Aug 10, 2008 13:58:47 GMT
Not appropriate.
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Post by Per on Aug 10, 2008 14:05:24 GMT
This needs a devoted thread, I think.
W-what's the font?
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Post by etcetera on Aug 10, 2008 14:32:08 GMT
Oh. My. God.
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Post by agasa on Aug 10, 2008 14:51:00 GMT
CoyoteKingyeah, in the same way using crutches does not mean you are crippled in the legs. possible, but very unlikely. Secondly, coyote, you entirely forgot to say that yeah, while i think the move would be suicidal, i also say that Tom is amazing and if he pulls a thing like this without ruining the comic, i would be more than delighted and amazed (by his skill, not the situation. situation still is terrible!) Forgetting this part thou thus thwart my comment. / CoyoteKingoh god i've seen the above manip the laughter (andor disgust) is killing me ;D
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Post by Tenjen on Aug 10, 2008 17:46:00 GMT
Utterly Hilarious. But stretching it quite far :3.
the last panel was what made the 2nd one worth it.
The first one. Hilarious and...cute
but yes. stretching it.
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Post by Riess on Aug 10, 2008 18:37:53 GMT
These, here? Oh my.
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Post by popo on Aug 10, 2008 19:34:30 GMT
those are certainly things
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Post by Tom Siddell on Aug 10, 2008 20:12:54 GMT
Continue along these lines and this thread will be deleted.
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Post by popo on Aug 10, 2008 20:17:34 GMT
speaking of this thread, whenever I try to get to the newest post, I get an error message that reads 'The post you are trying to access does not exist. It may have been deleted.' only happens for this thread though. weird.
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Post by starburst98 on Aug 11, 2008 5:18:32 GMT
crap, i apparently missed something interesting and possibly relevant to this discussion, would someone kindly email what was deleted to me?
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Post by Unprodigy on Aug 11, 2008 9:19:18 GMT
The first one made me giggle, missed the second. Totally understand Tom's stance, though. It's funny, but it doesn't belong here. Leaving it alone would imply to some people that Tom condones voyeurism of schoolgirl lesbians, which could lead to a heck of a lot of stupid crap.
Anyway... I think they're just friends. I honestly think Annie's sheltered early life has made her too uptight to have romantic notions of any kind for a very, very long time, and Kat's just very keen to have a friend who "gets" her and doesn't try to belittle her achievements to overcome personal insecurities, like most of the other students have been demonstrated to do.
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Post by agasa on Aug 16, 2008 22:09:57 GMT
I guess yesterday comic, n. 444, definitely demonstrates that kat's not of the lesbian side. I consider hereby every subsequent speculation on the subject pointless, unfounded and, last but not least, a little stupid.
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Post by Neon on Aug 17, 2008 13:11:58 GMT
I guess yesterday comic, n. 444, definitely demonstrates that kat's not of the lesbian side. I consider hereby every subsequent speculation on the subject pointless, unfounded and, last but not least, a little stupid. You should be slapped in the face. One's sexuality is not defined by the age of 13.
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Post by etcetera on Aug 17, 2008 14:25:02 GMT
I guess yesterday comic, n. 444, definitely demonstrates that kat's not of the lesbian side. I consider hereby every subsequent speculation on the subject pointless, unfounded and, last but not least, a little stupid. You don't seem to understand. This thread is about a possible lesbian relationship between two cute young fictional girls. The evidence doesn't matter. There will always be men assuming and posting and dreaming about that. The only thing you can do against this is trying not to be a part of it. Be it good or bad, this thread will never die. etc.
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Post by Neon on Aug 18, 2008 12:07:13 GMT
There will always be men assuming and posting and dreaming about that. Hi, not a man. Nice generalization!
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Aug 18, 2008 15:50:03 GMT
There will always be men assuming and posting and dreaming about that. Hi, not a man. Nice generalization! Females too. But haven't you read or at least heard of Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita?
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Post by Neon on Aug 18, 2008 21:50:35 GMT
What are you implying, exactly? That everyone who likes the idea of Kat and Annie as a couple is a raging pedophile who just really wants to see them having sex? Because, well, no.
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Post by p13volution on Aug 19, 2008 10:37:20 GMT
If I had a nickel for every time someone called me a pervert for supporting relations between fictional female characters... I'd have five cents. Its also fun to see someone turn around after making a claim like that and support heterosexual "shipping" as if the line of perversion is based on sexual preference. My assumption is that (subconsciously or otherwise) some people will see lesbianism as only something porn is made about and not... Well... What it is. Having the characters being below the age of consent only adds to the fire... Its a slippery slope... And sometimes those "D'aaww" moments of romantic subtext can just not be worth the personal attacks made on us for enjoying them. I know I'm not perfectly free of perversion myself, but this isn't a part of myself that I think I should be ashamed of. Some things... are just cute... Like puppies or kittens... And young girls finding companionship in one another... Because I know what horrible relationship fodder my own gender can be sometimes
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Post by rallan on Aug 19, 2008 10:44:31 GMT
I guess yesterday comic, n. 444, definitely demonstrates that kat's not of the lesbian side. I consider hereby every subsequent speculation on the subject pointless, unfounded and, last but not least, a little stupid. You should be slapped in the face. One's sexuality is not defined by the age of 13. Oh for fuck's sake dude, you're passionately defending the idea that hey maybe a comicbook character I like is a lesbian. I think you need to sit down, take some deep breaths, and realise that the chances of the character being gay have long since gone from slim to pretty much nada. Besides, if anyone's gonna try batting for the other team, the smart money's on Reynardine
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