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Post by nikita on Feb 16, 2008 13:14:06 GMT
Yeah I was thinking of a subconscious decision of course.
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Post by philweasel on Feb 19, 2008 7:02:09 GMT
Hell, I just ship all the characters I like. For the sake of discussion I asume everyone to be bisexual, I'm both a Kat/Annie and a Reynardine/Annie shipper (Among other things).
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Post by exhau on Apr 21, 2008 8:04:11 GMT
Just a quick thing for those who are demanding this topic be banished from their sight.
This whole comic "matters" no more or less than our DISCUSSION (it wasn't always an argument, yah?) about ships. Frankly, between the comic itself and some of the art made for it I think there's reasonable doubt. Not just reasonable, a-man-can-dream doubt.
Reasonable subtext doubt! I actually agree heartily with those who said that romance subplots will not go anywhere in this comic. At least, not for quite a while.
It will just be subtext and echoes.
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Post by cespinarve on Apr 23, 2008 0:04:25 GMT
1. Their age. They have not decided that yet and probably didn't even think about it. That's just wrong. I remember when, at age 11, seeing my stepbrother asleep and naked and realizing "Oh crap, I'm bisexual". I think the assumption that someone as deeply intelligent as Antimony is clueless or ignorant of such things if harmful. That being said, I do see a romantic subtext within Annie/Kat's relationship, but I think it's subconscious on Annie's part. And if there was some way it could be tastefully turn out to be true, and not an "OMFG the ARE LEZBIANS" moment, well, that would be great. Unlikely, however. So it goes.
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Post by spritznar on Apr 23, 2008 5:48:06 GMT
so, from the other end of the spectrum, there are reasonably intelligent people who don't realize that stuff until later in life.
i've always been a bit asexual, and biologically a late bloomer, so it didn't occur to me to wonder why i wasn't interested in guys till the middle of high school (around the time my hormones caught up with me).
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Post by CoyoteKing on Jul 6, 2008 21:27:41 GMT
I think the reason many people ship (strange how this can be used as a verb) lesbian/gay pairings is because quite frankly they are often less boring than the typically more canonical heterosexual pairings. It's seems to be a quite prevalent reason when you actually ask people the why.
As for whether or not Annie and Kat have romantic feelings for each other, or ever will, it's obviously impossible for us to say (and Tom may not even be 100% ). Personally I don't think that it has even a small chance of happening for at least a little while, but this is mainly to do with how very inexperienced Annie is with people. She's only just beginning to get a grasp of the varied forms that human relationships come in (this being perfectly illustrated in two instances; the one where she says she never had a true friend before Kat, and the one where she lists Alistair in the air and sees absolutely nothing even remotely rude about it). We must remember after all that this is a girl who grew up in a hospital, where her only human contacts were her mother, father, the occasional doctor, and the spirits of those either dead or dying. Even if, theoretically at least, Annie's sexuality is already for the most part determined I don't think she'll be able to really express it or necessarily recognize it until puberty really starts to hit her and even then she may be one of those teenagers for whom sex is really not the most important thing on their mind in which case it could take even longer.
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Post by Chrome on Jul 7, 2008 3:58:25 GMT
CoyoteKing, I'm similar in those ways. While I had a fairly normal upbringing, I do have hearing impairment, which makes communicating with people outside of the text world of the Internet challenging at best, and downright difficult at worst.
I was one of those teenagers who couldn't really think about, let alone comprehend sex, as anything I really wanted at the time. I was too busy growing up in areas most people had it easy, and had an outsider viewpoint somewhat similar to Annie's. I was more into science fiction, space, art, and the like than most people my age at both middle and high school. Boyfriends were just not something I had. Not even in college.
I would think Annie may be similar. And she doesn't have to be lesbian or straight or even bi to do this. She may just simply not see it as a priority becuase so much else is going on in her life. And she also, like you said, has growing to do in the area of personal relationships before even taking that leap.
I'm going to go on a limb and predict that Kat gets a steady boyfriend long before Annie even considers dating.
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Post by cespinarve on Jul 8, 2008 3:17:23 GMT
I'm going to go on a limb and predict that Kat gets a steady boyfriend long before Annie even considers dating. And I'm going to have to back you up on that.
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Post by CaptainNemo on Jul 8, 2008 6:56:10 GMT
I don't think either Annie or Kat is ready for a steady relationship yet. I mean, for Tesla's sake, they're 12. As for them being gay or straight, does it really matter? I mean, they'd still be the ol' Annie and Kat no matter who the bunk with at the end of the day.
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Post by monkeybucks on Jul 9, 2008 6:19:16 GMT
Geez, not this topic again. If ya'll care so much, why doesn't one of you just ask Tom? Remember him? The one person who can actually say if there is or is not any chance of annie/kat ever happening? If it's ZOMG CRUCIAL TO THE PLOT, or if he sees it as a weird question, he won't answer. But if he does, maybe you can all let this thread die already.
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Post by CoyoteKing on Jul 10, 2008 0:15:41 GMT
Geez, not this topic again. If ya'll care so much, why doesn't one of you just ask Tom? Remember him? The one person who can actually say if there is or is not any chance of annie/kat ever happening? If it's ZOMG CRUCIAL TO THE PLOT, or if he sees it as a weird question, he won't answer. But if he does, maybe you can all let this thread die already. This was already covered, but I'll go over it again for your sake. We don't much so much care about the actual answer, though it is important to a certain extent, as we enjoy discussing it. What else is the forum here for except to exchange our thoughts on the characters and the story that make up Gunnerkrigg Court, nothing.
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Post by Per on Jul 10, 2008 14:15:36 GMT
What else is the forum here for except to exchange our thoughts on the characters and the story that make up Gunnerkrigg Court, nothing. Nothing!? The kinetic energy of keys being pressed is being harvested for a VILE AND SINISTER PURPOSE!
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Jul 10, 2008 22:35:46 GMT
I don't think either Annie or Kat is ready for a steady relationship yet. I mean, for Tesla's sake, they're 12. As for them being gay or straight, does it really matter? I mean, they'd still be the ol' Annie and Kat no matter who the y bunk with at the end of the day. Greetings, Nemo. I concur. MonkeyBucks-It is done to satisfy the odd fantasies of the forum's residents. It is done here because it is most relevant here. It is done here because we want to. If you do not wish to partake in the resulting slashfiction, that is your choice. Just leave alone those who do.
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Post by starburst98 on Jul 11, 2008 0:59:02 GMT
have any of you read "kodomo no jikan"? it's the story of a 3rd grader with a crush on her teacher, but he refuses to reciprocate her feelings. so don't talk about "not old enough to understand love" until you read that.
link to place to download (sign-up required but is free) LINK REMOVED
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Post by Klex on Jul 11, 2008 2:30:16 GMT
But we talk about pure fiction here... I don't think any real 12-year-old girl could be in a real relationship... ( And furtherless with a teacher). And yes, Gunnerkrigg is a fiction too, but not of that kind.
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Post by Neon on Jul 11, 2008 5:48:29 GMT
But we talk about pure fiction here... I don't think any real 12-year-old girl could be in a real relationship... ( And furtherless with a teacher). And yes, Gunnerkrigg is a fiction too, but not of that kind. Has anyone in this thread ever stopped to think that maybe some of the people who ship it would like to see it happen in the future? Jesus, I'm pretty sure most of us don't like it for the child porn.
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Post by popo on Jul 11, 2008 7:20:03 GMT
have any of you read "kodomo no jikan"? it's the story of a 3rd grader with a crush on her teacher, but he refuses to reciprocate her feelings. so don't talk about "not old enough to understand love" until you read that. link removed I feel like a pedo just looking at that, and I'm only 16
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Post by walkingdust on Jul 12, 2008 1:24:49 GMT
have any of you read "kodomo no jikan"? it's the story of a 3rd grader with a crush on her teacher, but he refuses to reciprocate her feelings. so don't talk about "not old enough to understand love" until you read that. That story was created to be softcore pedophile fanservice. Your decision to use it to demonstrate a point is very questionable Linking to it is even worse.
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Post by popo on Jul 12, 2008 5:14:48 GMT
yeah I gotta agree, you aint' gonna prove many points with lolicon
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Post by nikita on Jul 12, 2008 10:47:33 GMT
The link is still there - in the quotation in popo's post.
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Post by popo on Jul 12, 2008 15:35:53 GMT
whoops, thanks for noticing. took it out.
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Post by CaptainNemo on Jul 13, 2008 1:26:25 GMT
......
It just got even more uncomfortable in an already uncomfortable thread.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Jul 13, 2008 3:29:21 GMT
Are you frightened you will lose your heterosexuality, Nemo?
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Post by CaptainNemo on Jul 13, 2008 3:48:02 GMT
I fully support the LGBT community. Pedophiles, on the other hand, should be shot in the balls.
Also, have we met? You seem familiar.
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Post by kaiii on Jul 13, 2008 23:21:28 GMT
as has already been said, i doubt that there will be anything between them because it'll seem 'gimmicky' because homosexuality and bisexuality are often seen as weird.
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Post by starburst98 on Jul 15, 2008 1:38:30 GMT
fine then, my final argument is...
kodomo no jikan is made by a women.
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Post by walkingdust on Jul 15, 2008 2:55:29 GMT
fine then, my final argument is... kodomo no jikan is made by a women. In the words of the great Genghis Khan: So?
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Post by cespinarve on Jul 29, 2008 16:45:09 GMT
But we talk about pure fiction here... I don't think any real 12-year-old girl could be in a real relationship... ( And furtherless with a teacher). And yes, Gunnerkrigg is a fiction too, but not of that kind. Um, yes. YES THEY CAN. If you had ever studied history, you would know that 12 was a common age for girls to get married. That being said, it was more of an upper-class thing. In Romeo and Juliet for example, it is generally accepted that Juliet is thought to be aged 12-14. So, yah, twelve year olds can completely be in relationships. The morality/ethics of this are a different argument entirely.
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Post by Tierra Y Libertad on Jul 29, 2008 19:26:38 GMT
Cespinarve-Juliet is stated explicitly that the party at which she meets Romeo is for her fourteenth birthday. I do not recall any statement of Romeo's exact age, but I expect him to be around sixteen or eighteen, twenty at the most. Romeo is older than Juliet, but the difference is not known.
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Post by cespinarve on Jul 29, 2008 21:17:27 GMT
Cespinarve-Juliet is stated explicitly that the party at which she meets Romeo is for her fourteenth birthday. I do not recall any statement of Romeo's exact age, but I expect him to be around sixteen or eighteen, twenty at the most. Romeo is older than Juliet, but the difference is not known. I stand corrected, tierr4yl1bert4d, thank you. However, I still think my point stands.
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