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Post by Per on Jan 12, 2024 23:34:34 GMT
You should check out Dresden Codak, I started reading arounf the same time I found GC. Senna Diaz keeps updating it to this day, and her art levels in the current arc are reaching epic levels. She updates way less regularly than GC tho. If you've never read it, it's worth checking at least from the point Diaz started crafting story arcs, like "Hob" and the ongoing "Dark Science". Interestingly I would give the opposite recommendation on DC: absolutely check out the one-shots, but be wary of the serials. Hob was a bit disappointing at the time given how hyped DC was after the single-page comics, but in hindsight it was readable. The risk is that by reading it you're tempted to continue with Dark Science, which very quickly descends into a long spiral of Mary Sue wank where whatever world building manages to stay consistent and relevant is just there for an unending procession of allies and villains to throw themselves at the main character to let her know how amazing they can't help thinking she is. Diaz has his (her?) strengths, but the intersection between plot and characterization does not seem to be among them. I started reading Vattu many years ago now and remember liking the first act, but for some reason could never get through the second.
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Post by Hatredman on Jan 13, 2024 16:44:41 GMT
You should check out Dresden Codak Kat, is that you?
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Post by Hatredman on Jan 13, 2024 16:49:04 GMT
She is even carrying Shadow2 inside the bag:
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Post by Hatredman on Jan 13, 2024 16:52:51 GMT
And here she is with Annie (and an unknown bloke. Her cousin, maybe?). Even the dialogue makes sense in the GC context!
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Post by Hatredman on Jan 13, 2024 16:57:39 GMT
See the choice of colors for the talk baloons on both comics. A match!
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Post by hp on Jan 13, 2024 18:47:39 GMT
You should check out Dresden Codak, I started reading arounf the same time I found GC. Senna Diaz keeps updating it to this day, and her art levels in the current arc are reaching epic levels. She updates way less regularly than GC tho. If you've never read it, it's worth checking at least from the point Diaz started crafting story arcs, like "Hob" and the ongoing "Dark Science". Interestingly I would give the opposite recommendation on DC: absolutely check out the one-shots, but be wary of the serials. Hob was a bit disappointing at the time given how hyped DC was after the single-page comics, but in hindsight it was readable. The risk is that by reading it you're tempted to continue with Dark Science, which very quickly descends into a long spiral of Mary Sue wank where whatever world building manages to stay consistent and relevant is just there for an unending procession of allies and villains to throw themselves at the main character to let her know how amazing they can't help thinking she is. Diaz has his (her?) strengths, but the intersection between plot and characterization does not seem to be among them. I started reading Vattu many years ago now and remember liking the first act, but for some reason could never get through the second. Hob is interesting but feels more "loose" in the sense the surreal tidbits seem to just be added as random quirks to make quick humour. As for Dark Science, it surely has some annoying Mary Sue vibes as you point... It *is* a "chosen one" kinda story after all. And the plot is also reeeeeeally slow cooking (maybe b/c Diaz sometimes takes long to update).
But it has an impressive and fleshed out worldbuilding which takes central place in the narrative, and the themes of bureaucracy, ideology, class and forced scarcity are pretty interesting.
I wish I could have a framed print of #09, "Insufficient Credibility":
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Post by hp on Jan 13, 2024 19:06:21 GMT
Interestingly I would give the opposite recommendation on DC: absolutely check out the one-shots, but be wary of the serials. (also, the point was not saying he should avoid the one-shots, which I like. What I meant was more like.... If he started reading DC from the beginning and decided he didn't vibe with the kind of comic it used to be, to let him know that after a while it adopted the kind of comic structure more familiar to Gunnerkrigg readers) Some other online comics I do love: - XKCD (of course...) - Vattu (this is beautiful!) - Kill 6 Billion Demons (intense!) - Wormworld Saga (oh, the sceneries...) Nedroid is good too (and they invented the blue tall bird/ short brown mammal duo before Regular Show, lmao):
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Post by gpvos on Jan 13, 2024 21:03:03 GMT
I wish I could have a framed print of #09, "Insufficient Credibility": That comic was absolutely a high point. My main issue with Dark Science is that due to the large time between updates I lose track of the characters, of which there are already too many that are too similar. And also I'm not really into transhumanism. Anyway, thanks for the comic tips. I was in need of a few new ones now Schlock Mercenary and some other ones have ended (and Sinfest became unreadable). Vattu looks promising. I assume everyone here is already reading Girl Genius and Freefall.
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Post by hp on Jan 13, 2024 21:52:54 GMT
That comic was absolutely a high point. That line "that conflicts with a recent study" gets me every time lmao True! I sometimes have to stop and do a re-read to remember what's happening. But since it's been less than 200 pages (busy pages tho), it's not a fortnight-long endeavour such as Gunnerkrigg lmao The updates have sped up in the last couple years tho. There was a time you had like, 2 or 3 pages the whole year. If I recall correctly Diaz said she was dealing with depression at that time. It's still slower than most nowadays, but last year she managed to keep an average of 1 pg/mo, with some stints going up to 2 or 3 pages/month. As for Girl Genius, it took me a decade to start reading it because the art used to put me off. Then last year I decided to give it another try and read the whole thing in some weeks lmao. It's one of the best I've ever read Now I'm waiting to read more pages in each go
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Post by hp on Jan 13, 2024 23:24:09 GMT
Also, there's another favorite I recommend, Oglaf (not safe for work): oglaf.comIf you dig NSFW webcomics, then check out:
"I Roved Out in Search of Truth and Love" — fantasy smut, which the author describes as "a cross between Oglaf and Dark Souls"
"Lovelyss" — sci-fi smut
"Lovesick" — sci-fi smut, prequel to the former
All long form and by Alexis Flower, whose artwork is impressive to say the least.
She used to sign with the pen name Rupert Everton until a couple years ago, so maybe the sci-fi ones are easier to find with that pseudonym (I say that because I think the website for Lovesyck is down, but the comic is also available in some 3rd party sites)
You can also check "Alfie", by InCase. It's another long-form fantasy comic with gorgeous art.
The syle of those comics is less cartoony than Oglaf (which makes them even more NSFW), but man, can they draw.
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I just remembered I also used to follow "The Meek" by Der-shing Helmer. It's also fantasy, not p0rn like the above ones, but it has some NSFWish pages now and then. Haven't read it in a while, It seems she went on hiatus on this one but there are 5 chapters available. I need to catch up with that one
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Post by Per on Jan 13, 2024 23:53:12 GMT
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Post by Hatredman on Jan 14, 2024 4:10:28 GMT
Yes. Yes, we should. Very sorry for that.
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Post by Hatredman on Jan 21, 2024 22:12:36 GMT
Rereading, two more things I did not notice before: 1. When Loup attacks Coyote after he ate Lana, he is Ysengrin-ish and not a proper Loup [2816]. Observe that he does not have that etheric black ear, just his regular missing ear - so he's more Ysengrin than Coyote, and even so more Ysengrin than Loup. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=28162. The souls of the New People have Bismuth hearts [2825]. It is pretty obvious in them, and it surely has been a topic of discussion here in the forum, but I myself noticed it just now. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2825
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Post by Eversist on Mar 1, 2024 20:40:27 GMT
Rereading some stuff. I'm sure someone has mentioned this interpretation, but if not... www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2554Jerrick/Loup's mention of "something to do with pipes I think." Pulling a quote from another thread (I think this was the last time someone mentioned the pipes thing, forgive me ImaginaryFriend): The funny thing about god-tier powers is that they can do some wack stuff. If "Jerrek" was created to be a completely realistic disguise then "Jerrek" may not have been drawing on "Loup"/Ysengrin's understanding/recollection of what robots did to spout the "pipes" misdirection. Might have just been the ether making it so, albeit vaguely. Wouldn't surprise me if Coyote could've disguised himself so thoroughly that Robot actually would have remembered him (or thought he did, or the machine analog of same) without Coyote bothering to manually change his memories or even knowing who Robot was at the time the disguise was done. Initially we all thought it was the robot that we saw Robot converting over to a New Person (that we now know was Sam), but should the interpretation now be that this was more of foreshadowing of him being Loup/reference to managing the forest? www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2030www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2483
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 18, 2024 10:19:13 GMT
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Post by Hatredman on Apr 6, 2024 2:58:11 GMT
Oh my Jones, the treatise again: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1452On the foot of the tree, Mort's helmet. I never noticed it. Bittersweet. I think I'll have to print and frame this one.
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Post by Runningflame on Apr 6, 2024 5:19:55 GMT
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Post by bedinsis on Apr 6, 2024 6:27:35 GMT
I'm starting to notice a running theme in this comic of powerful entities' plans going astray.
We have Coyote planning for Loup to fall in love with Annie, but then Lana showed up.
We have Robot* planning to be the first of the New People to die, but then the bald guy met Annie's memories of Jeanne.
We have the... uh, timeline itself planning for Annie to die, but then the Tik-Toks intervened.
*who might not be considered powerful yet but he cast himself in the role of the Lucifer among Robots.
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Post by phantaskippy on Apr 18, 2024 2:58:39 GMT
2. There is a cross in the background, maybe symbolizing robot martyrdom. If Kat is a God, there must be a Savior Martyr, right? Even more strikingly, the cross appears to be a silhouette of a person standing with their arms outstretched. I believe there has been speculation that it might be Robot. He would certainly be glad to take up the role of martyr. I love that specific one, the Zeta, Gamma, Iota triangle fascinates me, especially the placement of Zeta with Zimmy openly being called Zeta. Who is Iota? And with Zimmy at the intersection of branches that lead to gold and the fire elemental symbol, and closest to Bismuth. . . Crazy how much he put into those and how long they still remain mysterious.
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