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Post by Hatredman on Jun 14, 2024 0:21:41 GMT
This is the "things I noticed" thread, though. Yeah, I think that I got carried away and forgot to say that I noticed all this on the current reread. |
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Post by Hatredman on Jun 17, 2024 2:00:10 GMT
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Post by yellowb on Jun 17, 2024 10:08:06 GMT
I would say HIGHLY debatable, especially page 903. Kat's just being socially awkward IMO. |
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Post by Per on Jun 17, 2024 14:01:12 GMT
I don't see any flirting in those pages either.
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Post by blahzor on Jun 18, 2024 12:39:32 GMT
I would say HIGHLY debatable, especially page 903. Kat's just being socially awkward IMO. I think they mean the blush lines from Paz looking at Kat talking in the panel. |
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Post by Per on Jun 18, 2024 17:52:30 GMT
Janet has the same lines. They're thinking about the fact that they're spending the night with the boys, which they have clearly talked about with each other, but are springing on Annie and Kat in this scene.
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Post by Hatredman on Jun 18, 2024 23:53:32 GMT
I think they mean the blush lines from Paz looking at Kat talking in the panel. Hummm, that too, sort of. Paz is smiling on 903, as if she was very pleased to hear Kat say "yeah, no problem here" while staring directly at smiling Paz. I think the realization lines out of Kat's head, coupled with what she said, is what made me think so. But ok, maybe it's just me and my very skewed perspective. |
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Post by arf on Jun 20, 2024 1:08:08 GMT
I noted the early interactions between Kat and Paz a while back, although it came across to me as an unconscious attraction rather than 'flirting'.
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Post by batsugars on Jul 3, 2024 16:06:31 GMT
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Post by hoob on Jul 3, 2024 16:41:07 GMT
I was wondering if there had been any explicit mentions of Omega's severe causal consequences across the comic and found this |
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Post by mturtle7 on Jul 3, 2024 19:49:14 GMT
I was wondering if there had been any explicit mentions of Omega's severe causal consequences across the comic and found thisPOLO WAS RIGHT
HEADCANON ACCEPTED
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Post by mturtle7 on Aug 5, 2024 20:37:05 GMT
Had a bit of fun reading the last few chapters with the knowledge of who Omega was. In particular, her objection of "What? I didn't see anything!" (emphasis added) on this page hits VERY different now. Poor Meggy, not being able to see important things that are going on! It doesn't happen too often for her, but man, it must hurt when it does. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 7, 2024 9:10:37 GMT
Going back over the comic again I realized that Omega first appeared when Antimony plus Noobs entered distortion-Zimmingham and Omega was the first one to see a three-headed spider. In other words, nobody saw spooders before Omega called attention to them. Then it looks like Omega helpfully pointed out a fast exit from Zimmingham that I guess nobody saw before? I'm not sure to what extent but I'm thinking Antimony was getting too close to Zeta and Omega decided to intervene. If nothing else it bought time for more and more monsters to spawn, though Omega may be helping with that too. [edit] Also Omega was the one who led them to the Annan bridge. That was a dangerous place, if that wasn't an accident it may have been an attempt to zero Antimony. She was supposed to have died from a fall from the bridge, from Omega's perspective. [/edit] |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 7, 2024 13:26:27 GMT
[edit] Also Omega was the one who led them to the Annan bridge. That was a dangerous place, if that wasn't an accident it may have been an attempt to zero Antimony. She was supposed to have died from a fall from the bridge, from Omega's perspective. [/edit] Why though? Omega acts like Annie's biggest fan, and if she wanted to kill Annie now, she would have had other opportunities. Also, for all Omega knows, if a memory of the possessed S13 would turn up at the bridge, then a swarm of Tic-Tocs might as well. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 7, 2024 18:18:23 GMT
[edit] Also Omega was the one who led them to the Annan bridge. That was a dangerous place, if that wasn't an accident it may have been an attempt to zero Antimony. She was supposed to have died from a fall from the bridge, from Omega's perspective. [/edit] Why though? Omega acts like Annie's biggest fan, and if she wanted to kill Annie now, she would have had other opportunities. Also, for all Omega knows, if a memory of the possessed S13 would turn up at the bridge, then a swarm of Tic-Tocs might as well. She is looking up when see her on the bridge, possibly for Tocs... Omega probably was genuinely excited to officially meet Antimony... but when she first saw her, she wasn't fangirling. She was happily blending in with the Noobs. When Omega was confronted she didn't come clean, she looked anxious and tried to ditch Antimony. She only stops trying to escape and offers to help after Antimony forcefully announces that she's trying to help Shadow. I think it's reasonable to think that some of that fangirling was a modified "lovebomb" strategy. It put Antimony on the back foot; instead of being wary of Omega to the point of physically holding onto her, Antimony lowered her guard. That not only led to Omega escaping later but Anthony getting kidnapped. I don't know if Omega guided the party to the bridge on purpose. It seemed sus enough at the time for Renard to remark on it. Maybe that happened because Antimony "knew" that the way to get to the Court from the wood is the bridge. I don't know how much information Omega had on what happened on the night Antimony fell but I figure she must have had Eglamore's report at least, and she would be very interested in learning as much as she could. I also don't know how well Omega's powers are working in the distortion but she can apparently learn enough to kidnap the Donlans right before Antimony could communicate anything to them. I think that means Omega would have known that at least an opportunity to end the distortion was present for Antimony in Zimmingham and acted to prevent it. I don't know if Omega knew she could manifest herself as a fake Noob before that or if she just calculated what it would take to fortify the distortion and that suddenly happened. I know Omega knew Antimony should have died on the bridge that night and that Omega was the one who guided them there. I also don't know if Omega was nervous-looking when she heard that Sam died because there were things going on she didn't know about or if she was upset because she didn't think of the Noobs as things that could die. Maybe it was just a coincidence. Maybe she figured the Tocs (or something else) would save Antimony and Omega was just trying to distract Antimony from ending the distortion... and was surprised that she got someone else killed (historically in the Court mere robot destruction doesn't count as death)... but if Omega believes that her second chance at life rests on the distortion being prolonged, and what she says seems to support that, maybe that was an attempted unaliving that took out the wrong person. |
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Post by blahzor on Aug 15, 2024 12:47:35 GMT
On this page www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2810Coyote tells Loup to use the power he gave him then the next pages is Coyote using them instead. Is this implying through wording that Loup could stop this memory of Coyote from doing anything he did |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 15, 2024 15:33:20 GMT
On this page www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2810Coyote tells Loup to use the power he gave him then the next pages is Coyote using them instead. Is this implying through wording that Loup could stop this memory of Coyote from doing anything he did I don’t see it. However, we have seen Lana in some weird box after that, and she did not become the first NP to die. Thus we know what happened was not what seemed to happen. This “Coyote memory” tricked Loup. But then, there may be some other sleight-of-paw involved… in which ways, to what degree? Perhaps it does not have much power on its own and exploited Loup’s lack of control. It might not even be able to move very far from Loup, and to travel anywhere it had to trick Loup into a pursuit, and steer him by staying just a little ahead in the right direction, much like that old “carrot on a stick” thingy. |
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Post by aggadahGothic on Aug 15, 2024 15:43:17 GMT
On this page www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2810Coyote tells Loup to use the power he gave him then the next pages is Coyote using them instead. Is this implying through wording that Loup could stop this memory of Coyote from doing anything he did I don’t see it. However, we have seen Lana in some weird box after that, and she did not become the first NP to die. Thus we know what happened was not what seemed to happen. This “Coyote memory” tricked Loup. But then, there may be some other sleight-of-paw involved… The 'weird box' on page 2821 is merely an odd corner in the room that Jerrek and Lana were in, which one can see best on page 2704. The bonus page is one of Jerrek's memories of her; nothing ominous. |
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Post by blahzor on Aug 15, 2024 16:40:15 GMT
On this page www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2810Coyote tells Loup to use the power he gave him then the next pages is Coyote using them instead. Is this implying through wording that Loup could stop this memory of Coyote from doing anything he did I don’t see it. However, we have seen Lana in some weird box after that, and she did not become the first NP to die. Thus we know what happened was not what seemed to happen. This “Coyote memory” tricked Loup. But then, there may be some other sleight-of-paw involved… in which ways, to what degree? Perhaps it does not have much power on its own and exploited Loup’s lack of control. It might not even be able to move very far from Loup, and to travel anywhere it had to trick Loup into a pursuit, and steer him by staying just a little ahead in the right direction, much like that old “carrot on a stick” thingy. but the memory moved to Zimmy first he straight up told Loup to use power and they will find Kat then the memory went to find her instead. Jerrek was still getting angry and Annie was talking to him after MemCoyote already left |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 15, 2024 20:53:26 GMT
I don’t see it. However, we have seen Lana in some weird box after that, and she did not become the first NP to die. Thus we know what happened was not what seemed to happen. This “Coyote memory” tricked Loup. But then, there may be some other sleight-of-paw involved… The 'weird box' on page 2821 is merely an odd corner in the room that Jerrek and Lana were in, which one can see best on page 2704. The bonus page is one of Jerrek's memories of her; nothing ominous. Good catch! I don't think anybody noticed it back then!
(She still looks like a creepy doll, though.)
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Post by aggadahGothic on Aug 16, 2024 1:27:00 GMT
The 'weird box' on page 2821 is merely an odd corner in the room that Jerrek and Lana were in, which one can see best on page 2704. The bonus page is one of Jerrek's memories of her; nothing ominous. Good catch! I don't think anybody noticed it back then! The fan community on Tumblr also misunderstood the bonus page as something unnerving and suggestive, so I suppose it was simply not executed properly. If Tom's video commentaries had continued, he likely would have noted it, but alas.
She is a kind of golem. Perhaps we should be kinder to her.
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 17, 2024 14:28:16 GMT
Good catch! I don't think anybody noticed it back then! The fan community on Tumblr also misunderstood the bonus page as something unnerving and suggestive, so I suppose it was simply not executed properly. If Tom's video commentaries had continued, he likely would have noted it, but alas.
She is a kind of golem. Perhaps we should be kinder to her.
I really meant "compared to all her other appearances". If Tom's goal was to make the bonus page only be a regular memory, he leaned way too far into the uncanny valley, especially since the readers had just witnessed Lana's apparent demise. |
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Post by Nika on Aug 20, 2024 6:17:50 GMT
Yeah the bonus page is still rather unsettling imo,,
I never really thought about where she was, it's really the portrayal of her with an unsettling expression right after she dies, that leaves me feeling that this isn't the last we've seen of her.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 20, 2024 9:24:46 GMT
I ain't never seen a memory kill someone and I ain't seen no body
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 20, 2024 11:08:58 GMT
The 'weird box' on page 2821 is merely an odd corner in the room that Jerrek and Lana were in, which one can see best on page 2704. The bonus page is one of Jerrek's memories of her; nothing ominous. Did we ever see her in a state that fits this expression? Because if not, being whacked by a giant monster and then suddenly finding herself at her old dormitory, except dressed wrong and there are spooky plants all over the place does fit this expression… |
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Post by aggadahGothic on Aug 20, 2024 14:16:00 GMT
The 'weird box' on page 2821 is merely an odd corner in the room that Jerrek and Lana were in, which one can see best on page 2704. The bonus page is one of Jerrek's memories of her; nothing ominous. Did we ever see her in a state that fits this expression? Because if not, being whacked by a giant monster and then suddenly finding herself at her old dormitory, except dressed wrong and there are spooky plants all over the place does fit this expression… Her expression seems to be a kind of Rorschach blot, as personally I have never found it particularly notable or in need of explanation. She is simply smiling, because she was with Jerrek at the time, whom she loves. |
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 20, 2024 15:34:39 GMT
I ain't never seen a memory kill someone and I ain't seen no body Is this a joke or quote? Because right in the next chapter we saw a memory kill someone. |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 20, 2024 15:56:14 GMT
Her expression seems to be a kind of Rorschach blot, as personally I have never found it particularly notable or in need of explanation. She is simply smiling, because she was with Jerrek at the time, whom she loves. The main difference between her expressions in 2821 and panel 2 of 2704 is lack of blush. |
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Post by Runningflame on Aug 21, 2024 0:46:41 GMT
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Post by lurkerbot on Aug 21, 2024 23:44:43 GMT
Good catch, and I also note that in Panel 6, Andrew's looking at the pile in awe or something like it. |
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