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Post by Eily on Aug 19, 2020 11:27:07 GMT
i completely forgot about this line in panel 5 www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=816i guess Jones is such a pure lack of ether she believes Coyote can't do anything to her but Loup removed her with ease also Jones closes her eye when Coyote directly ask her a question If you're refering to this page, I think it's because she's nodding. Not that people close their eyes in real life when they nod, but it's a convention in comics I think?
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Post by blahzor on Aug 19, 2020 13:23:33 GMT
also Jones closes her eye when Coyote directly ask her a question Where do you see her closing her eyes? Just Eglamore surely, not Ms Eglamore. Jones is just Jones now, not Ms Jones. In other times she had both a first and a last name. However, living in the Court she probably does not have to care about having a "proper" name, and will avoid being called "James" in some decades. page 820 www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=820she is looking at Coyote in page 819 and page 821
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Post by jda on Aug 19, 2020 14:15:19 GMT
also Jones closes her eye when Coyote directly ask her a question Where do you see her closing her eyes?
Just Eglamore surely, not Ms Eglamore. Jones is just Jones now, not Ms Jones. In other times she had both a first and a last name. However, living in the Court she probably does not have to care about having a "proper" name, and will avoid being called "James" in some decades. Well, she most surely will wait till all who knew ThatGuy have passed away. Maybe till their children have, also, for good measure.
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Post by fia on Aug 19, 2020 23:57:11 GMT
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Post by Eily on Aug 20, 2020 7:44:42 GMT
Coyote didn't actually know that Annie's ancestor was a fire elemental, he suspected it. And he guessed what the union must have been like. Knowing Coyote, this means that he was actively trying not to know about it, and keep some mystery around Annie.
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Post by blahzor on Aug 20, 2020 14:32:06 GMT
a tale of 2 godhoods Coyote sees humans and makes his own, gets bored of them and they hate their creator www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=975Kat, inspired by a bird and creates her own, gets more focus'd on them and they love their creator more
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Post by blahzor on Aug 20, 2020 14:38:05 GMT
i'll out wild spec you, Brinnie got sent to Gunnerkrigg as a kid as punishment for helping Kat time travel
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 21, 2020 10:59:18 GMT
I'm guessing the word was "time".
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Post by madjack on Aug 21, 2020 11:01:04 GMT
I'm guessing the word was "time".
He's already clarified that it was "Waiting", maybe in the chapter retrospective? I'll see if I can find the source. Edit: Not the retrospective, damn.
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 21, 2020 11:05:51 GMT
I'm guessing the word was "time".
He's already clarified that it was "Waiting", maybe in the chapter retrospective? I'll see if I can find the source. Edit: Not the retrospective, damn. He did? Whoops. I thought this would be one of the mysteries eternally left open.
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Post by madjack on Aug 21, 2020 11:07:31 GMT
Here it is, in the formspring archive. Edit: oh hey, that was 1k posts just above.
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Post by saardvark on Aug 21, 2020 15:40:19 GMT
I'm guessing the word was "time".
He's already clarified that it was "Waiting", maybe in the chapter retrospective? I'll see if I can find the source. Edit: Not the retrospective, damn. waiting, though, implies time is involved... youre waiting until a specific spacetime event. So in a sense, both are correct, even if waiting is the "more important".
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 21, 2020 16:06:55 GMT
Before this gets out of hand: we already have an excellent thread for posting wild specs. This one is for details that might've been overlooked.
EDIT: Since I am already posting I might as well add a piece of analysis that I've already posted in the wild spec thread. It contains enough details that took a second reading for me to notice so it fits, and I suspect it is of interest for those that visit this thread:
I appreciate all the symbology of Death on the scene where Annie was by the shore of the Annan river back in Broken Glass and Other Things:
We have the ghost of Jeanne, a person that literally had died. We have the suicide fairies, creatures that intentionally are trying to die. We have Muut, a creature that guides the deceased to the afterlife. We have the Tic-toc, a mechanical creature that Annie determined to have been fatally wounded during the fall. Finally, if Annie's life could only be saved by Kat's future time-travel shenanigans, we have Annie, a human that by all accounts should be dead.
The thing about it though is that all these creatures save Muut have in that case special circumstances to allow them to go on even after death:
Jeanne should've passed on to make the world spin, but was trapped by Diego's arrow. The suicide faires were very keen on being murdered, but that was only because they knew that they'd continue with new lives as humans after death. The Tic-toc might've perished if we can talk about robots dying, but in its death it was able to grow a-new as a sort of robot-based plantlife. Finally, Annie's life could only be saved through the intervention of a future robot-goddess, allowing her to continue without dying.
Also note that when Annie left the scene she had a near-death encounter with Jeanne, which was only interrupted by Kat. Once again, a proper death interrupted by the divine.
Since we're talking about "breaking rules" in regards to death, we can also add that Muut brought the blinker stone supposedly from Mort, even though the situation was more akin to the Psychopomps wanting Annie to have the blinker stone, with Mort as a passable scapegoat.
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Post by Druplesnubb on Aug 21, 2020 21:54:02 GMT
I'm guessing the word was "time".
He's already clarified that it was "Waiting", maybe in the chapter retrospective? I'll see if I can find the source. Edit: Not the retrospective, damn. I thought the important word was "you", since that was the only word to get bolded, the implication being that there's at leaast one other psychopomp who does bend the rules.
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Post by Noximilian on Aug 27, 2020 2:49:17 GMT
Arthur's transition from robot to something-almost-human-but-not-quite was not the first time that the concepts of contracts and ownership had emerged. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=341(Although I’m not sure if it’s the same, as this one seemingly applies to living things.)
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Post by pyradonis on Aug 27, 2020 12:16:14 GMT
i completely forgot about this line in panel 5 www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=816i guess Jones is such a pure lack of ether she believes Coyote can't do anything to her but Loup removed her with ease also Jones closes her eye when Coyote directly ask her a question If you're refering to this page, I think it's because she's nodding. Not that people close their eyes in real life when they nod, but it's a convention in comics I think? I sometimes do that in real life too!
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 27, 2020 12:42:40 GMT
Arthur's transition from robot to something-almost-human-but-not-quite was not the first time that the concepts of contracts and ownership had emerged. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=341(Although I’m not sure if it’s the same, as this one seemingly applies to living things.) Or here, in a way.
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Post by Runningflame on Sept 7, 2020 15:14:16 GMT
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Post by Eily on Sept 11, 2020 7:58:55 GMT
That title for a link that leads straight to baby city face is a good title Also it's the start of Kat and Paz's relationship, so at first I thought this was the meet cute you were talking about (yes, I'm very good at reading comprehension)
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Post by alevice on Sept 16, 2020 22:41:15 GMT
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Post by wies on Oct 5, 2020 8:43:16 GMT
Annie is not the only character to receive a facial scar after an etherical meeting.
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Post by blahzor on Oct 5, 2020 9:16:30 GMT
Annie is not the only character to receive a facial scar after an etherical meeting. His is real and Annie's were a ethereal version of subconscious
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Post by wies on Oct 5, 2020 9:20:09 GMT
Annie is not the only character to receive a facial scar after an etherical meeting. His is real and Annie's were a ethereal version of subconscious I don't see why etherical matters should not be considered real also.
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Post by blahzor on Oct 5, 2020 9:29:52 GMT
His is real and Annie's were a ethereal version of subconscious I don't see why etherical matters should not be considered real also. Only because not everyone who looked in the ether could see her scar and it was easily wiped away while Tony's scar was visible to everyone even the non-ethereal This world seems what's real is determined by how people see something and if most don't outside the super powerful see something it's objectively not real
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Post by jda on Oct 5, 2020 13:43:36 GMT
I don't see why etherical matters should not be considered real also. Only because not everyone who looked in the ether could see her scar and it was easily wiped away while Tony's scar was visible to everyone even the non-ethereal This world seems what's real is determined by how people see something and if most don't outside the super powerful see something it's objectively not real I see this as a bit of mathematical conundrum, regards the types of numbers and entities: There are "Real numbers", what we see in the everyday like (humans alive in the Court sense) and "imaginary" numbers, that also exist and are useful, as imaginary as the "real", just they don't share the "dimension". And there are Complex numbers, like Annie and Co., and Forest denizens, that exist in both dimensions
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Post by wies on Oct 5, 2020 14:19:41 GMT
I don't see why etherical matters should not be considered real also. Only because not everyone who looked in the ether could see her scar and it was easily wiped away while Tony's scar was visible to everyone even the non-ethereal This world seems what's real is determined by how people see something and if most don't outside the super powerful see something it's objectively not real I think the comic is arguing the opposite. That it is unwise to dismiss something you can't see. (that sequence is more about what magic is and not what is real, but still). Like, few people can see the ether, but it is influencing and being influenced by the material world, hence just as real as the material world.
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Post by Runningflame on Oct 9, 2020 3:30:53 GMT
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Post by Eversist on Oct 13, 2020 22:06:27 GMT
Soooo, here Annie asks the ancient robot about how the court was built: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=897All of the other robots are activated now. Do you guys think she'll eventually have that conversation with them?
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Post by alevice on Oct 14, 2020 14:14:47 GMT
Soooo, here Annie asks the ancient robot about how the court was built: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=897All of the other robots are activated now. Do you guys think she'll eventually have that conversation with them? tehy will give the same answer
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 15, 2020 15:41:26 GMT
Soooo, here Annie asks the ancient robot about how the court was built: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=897All of the other robots are activated now. Do you guys think she'll eventually have that conversation with them? tehy will give the same answer But these robots are not in a hurry to be deactivated again, so maybe they would reveal some more if asked persistently.
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