[1589] He's my friend

[nero]

I feel like its a dream because Anthony's door is different and he had Renard close by. If he really did hand Renard to her it could be because he feels guilty or because the Court wants to be sure of who actually has control of Renard. Or maybe Coyote turned him into a yes-man.

[CarbonRabbit]

Anthony:"Anything else?"
Annie:"Um...Your love?"


(I also think he gave in so quickly not because he is afraid of her, but afraid of what Coyote can do; he knocked down one of their buildings after all).

[Demonsul]

I haven't stopped laughing yet

[imaginaryfriend]

Welcome to the forum, dotdotdot!

Nov 6, 2015 18:08:51 GMT gunnerwf said:

My opinion of Tony went up

I think Tony's checked out again because of Coyote's intervention. I think I'll like a checked-out Tony more than an involved Tony.

[kelantar]

Best page/chapter ever.

I kind of suspected Tom would do this at some point, but it was still out of left field. I laughed harder than I have in a while.

[gpvos]

Next chapter: the same, but seen from an etheric viewpoint, where long, hard, epic battles were fought.

[gpvos]

Or this plot twist: Renard has already possessed (and thus killed) Tony, and just gave Annie her plush wolf toy back.

(Although, in that case, Renard would be lying, since Annie asked for Renard back.)

[keef]

l33tninja Amazing!

Nov 6, 2015 16:00:06 GMT pasko said:

I'm starting to suspect that the story will be in the bonus page(s).

Thirty bonus pages.

[aline]

Nov 6, 2015 18:32:37 GMT CarbonRabbit said:

(I also think he gave in so quickly not because he is afraid of her, but afraid of what Coyote can do; he knocked down one of their buildings after all).

Yeah, Coyote knocked down a building, and what did Tony say to that?

He asked how she could be safe around a capricious god.

If he was sufficiently unafraid to talk back to Coyote when Coyote was actually right in front of him, why on Earth would he be scared now?

Nope. It's not the building that changed his mind.

[Chancellor]

Nov 6, 2015 14:45:05 GMT Gulby said:

Bonus page : Annie rings the doorbell again, and when Anthony opens, she jumps to his shoulders to hug him very hard. Last pannel, he closes his arms around her and closes his eyes, no smile but we can sense the relief of a father forgave by her daughter.

...

WHAT?! One cannot dream, now?! xD

ArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Why you gotta make me want things we can't have?

[darththulhu]

Nov 6, 2015 14:50:47 GMT elebenty said:

Nov 6, 2015 9:31:43 GMT darththulhu said:

Also: "I love you".

Give her time. Her father is quite far from neurotypical, and she is quite far still from relating to him as anything other than Her Detached Father.

She'll get there. Have faith.

He didn't even give her the chance to finish what she was saying. Didn't let her call him Father. He shut the door. For all we know she would have said "thank you" -- not sure either of them is ready for professing love.

Re-read the comic. He gave her plenty of opportunity.

Anthony: "Is there anything else?" (pause)

Antimony: "No"

Anthony: "Very well."

Replace "No" with any other dialogue you wish. She had the option. He only "shut down" her offering more arguments about getting Renard, and he "shut her down" by giving her Renard. Then, in the actual comic, he gave her the opportunity to say anything else. She didn't. The End

[darththulhu]

Nov 6, 2015 17:31:37 GMT setrain said:

Nov 6, 2015 17:10:54 GMT Per said:

He says good night. She responds the same. The door goes "click", as it presumably often does when closed. That's what's actually in the comic.

I meant that he didn't even invite her in, not the he literally slammed the door.

If you don't mean to say that Anthony slammed the door in Antimony's face, you should not literally write: "He totally slammed the door on her".

[gpvos]

By the way, I thought that chapters had to have an even number of pages, including the title and bonus pages, so they always start on the same page in the books. Which would mean that this chapter would need at least an extra bonus page (or none). But this seems to be not exactly the case: 5 out of the current 55 chapters have an odd number of pages.

[fish]

Amazing. At the end of the last chapter we were led to believe the next step would involve a lot of drama and/or an elaborate heist, just like Annie must have thought. And just like Annie must be, we are now flabbergasted how quick this was resolved. Using the form to convey the content. Amazing.

Also: I hope Tony just lost his respect for the Court authorities because they turned their tails so quick after Coyotes tantrum. Unless taking away Rey was not a Court condition but Tony's own idea. Then I believe he is trying to make up for one of his many mistakes here. There are still some to go, Tony.

Also: There has never been a real dream sequence in GC, why do you guys insist on having one? If Tom ever decides to include a dream sequence, I hope it won't be the usual fake out trope. Or if it is, I hope he'll subvert it somehow.

Also:

Nov 6, 2015 17:27:39 GMT fatexx544 said:

[...]
The only reason Annie has suffered for lack of a father is worrying over where he is and what he thinks. If he had died instead of coming back home, Annie would probably be in a better place. That isn't a good thing.

What.

[Gotolei]

Nov 6, 2015 21:44:11 GMT fish said:

Nov 6, 2015 21:21:01 GMT gpvos said:

By the way, I thought that chapters had to have an even number of pages, including the title and bonus pages, so they always start on the same page in the books. Which would mean that this chapter would need at least an extra bonus page (or none). But this seems to be not exactly the case: 5 out of the current 55 chapters have an odd number of pages.

Can you name the chapters, please (am too lazy to look it up myself). I'd like to check with the books. Are those perhaps chapters at the end of a book? I also remember one time there were two bonus pages.

Just went through and counted how many pages are in each online chapter, then split it up by what I'm guessing are the divisions between books (those being the treatises?).
Granted it's just an imagus sieve so it simply counts how many pages are between chapter covers, but things like the city face extras generally go for two weeks and an even number anyways if I recall correctly.

1, 01-07: 16, 16, 26, 10, 16, 12, 24
2, 08-14: 28, 16, 16, 19, 28, 30, 47
3, 15-22: 26, 30, 34, 46, 32, 30, 32, 35
4, 23-31: 26, 36, 31, 26, 28, 26, 18, 28, 55
5, 32-41: 26, 30, 48, 26, 28, 24, 30, 36, 36, 50
6, 42-49: 26, 30 ,30, 32, 26, 32, 28, 82
7, 50-??: 22, 22, 26, 30, 24, 2?

(though i can tell i counted something wrong because i think there's only five books currently? and there's two different pages that both claim to be the end of the second book so i have no idea what i'm doing anymore)

[aline]

Nov 6, 2015 19:55:28 GMT darththulhu said:

Replace "No" with any other dialogue you wish. She had the option. He only "shut down" her offering more arguments about getting Renard, and he "shut her down" by giving her Renard. Then, in the actual comic, he gave her the opportunity to say anything else. She didn't. The End

It's quite obvious Annie had a lot of things she planned to say if he said no, but never in her wildest imagination pictured him saying yes. She was taken by surprise.
Aside from the fact that "thank you" is for getting cookies, presents and favors. There isn't actually a social convention for having your best friend released to you after he was kept locked up for days / weeks. And if there was any, it would involve cops, lawyers and probably several psychiatrists.

[Goatmon]

Nov 6, 2015 9:39:41 GMT setrain said:

Nov 6, 2015 9:22:54 GMT warrl said:

There is something else Annie should have said before the door closed.

"Thank you."

You don't have to thank somebody for giving back what they had no right to take in the first place.

Some of you are not going to like hearing this, but as her Dad he does have the right to veto her friendship if he doesn't approve of them. At least until she's an adult.

Given that his prior knowledge of Renard was only as recent as killing one member of the court and causing the inevitable death of another (Sivo), that wasn't an entirely irrational decision, honestly.

Sure, we know he was wrong to do it. But he didn't know how close Renard had become with Antimony and company. Sure, he should have learned more about the situation before acting, but that's another matter entirely.

Either way, after his chat with Don, he gave Renard back to her without hesitation when asked.

It's a start.

[Kya]

wat

[arzeik]

I know I'm late but... Oh my.

I absolutely did not expect thiiiiiis!

[darththulhu]

Nov 6, 2015 22:17:53 GMT aline said:

Aside from the fact that "thank you" is for getting cookies, presents and favors.

Being allowed to see your serial-killer friend again after being cut off from him for being an increasingly-arrogant juvenile delinquent qualifies as both a Present and a Favor.

There isn't actually a social convention for having your best friend released to you after he was kept locked up for days / weeks.

Yes, there is. "Thank you for releasing my loved one from this prison, Warden."

And if there was any, it would involve cops, lawyers and probably several psychiatrists.

Yes. On the side of the authorities duly imprisoning the serial killer, of course. Since Annie repeatedly keeps getting to dispense with all of that, as well, she would be more than justified in writing a nice "Thank You" note to Court Protector Eglamore and Headmaster Llanwellyn, should she feel so inclined.

[mordekai]

Anthony probably thinks that, if Annie is going to spend time in the forest with Coyote and Ysengrim, keeping Renard with her at home isn't a big deal.

[Deleted]

I love the fact that even after having been a reader of this comic from close to the very beginning Tom still has the capacity to really surprise me. Well done.

[kunikunatu]

This one caught me off guard, but it certainly makes sense.

Tony's entire purpose for even being here anyways is to keep Antimony from being expelled by the Court -- otherwise, he would have just let himself die. This is pretty much the driving force behind everything he's been doing; separating her from her "troublesome" friend Kat, who would has been causing and will inevitably cause quite a bit of noise concerning this and the future turn of events, taking her out of the forest, separating her from all her peers, etc. The same goes for taking Renard. He believes that all of this will convince the Court to change their minds and not expel Annie after all, that the problem is solved and that there is no need to take such drastic measures.

Then Coyote came, and the Court immediately turned on their word, throwing Tony in front of him as a meatshield, all the while begging him to let Annie back to the forest. The simple fact is, is that it's easier to let Annie do as she pleases and expel her as soon as it's allowed than to try and "reform" her from her rebellious ways. Tony isn't entirely dumb, and after what happened that day he probably knows that all the things he's done are useless. No matter what he does, the Court is going to throw her out by the end anyway.

He gave back Renard because there's no point in keeping him anymore. He probably can't legally return her to the 10th year since she did cheat on an overwhelmingly large amount of assignments, nor return her to the proper dorm room because as he stated, there is no room for her, but I wouldn't be surprised if she skipped all her classes and he doesn't bat an eye. It just doesn't matter.



Some people might argue that he also kept Renard to keep her safe, as he said in the dinner scene, but I think that was, on some level, just a coverup so that he would not have to tell Annie what the Court was planning. And even if it was the only reason it still doesn't matter, Renard doesn't listen to a single thing he says, so there's still no point in keeping him.

[The Anarch]

Nov 6, 2015 22:54:37 GMT arzeik said:

I know I'm late but... Oh my.

I absolutely did not expect thiiiiiis!

[rafk]

Nov 6, 2015 8:55:53 GMT shadowhunter said:

Can't wait for us to get to the retrospective video for this.

It will be 15 minutes long and feature Tom covering Proclaimers hits on the ukulele.

[rafk]

Nov 6, 2015 8:03:19 GMT preus said:

This is the single funniest page to date. I am in awe.

It goes up again! is still my pick for funniest. But this is close.

[arf]

It comes as a shock to see adamantine Tony cave so readily but, when you think about it, it's entirely in character.

Once he reflects on what he'd done. Once Coyote points out Annie was safe and loved in the Forest. Once the war raging in his mind is resolved, Tony immediately adopts a more conciliatory approach because it is logical.

[Gotolei]

Nov 7, 2015 0:09:43 GMT kunikunatu said:

nor return her to the proper dorm room because as he stated, there is no room for her

He's saying there that there's no room for her in the old underwater dorms. Presumably the Friends apartment still has an empty room, unless Paz took the opportunity to move in or something.
..which would still leave an empty room, just not with Kat. might be beneficial in the court's eyes actually

Also a room with a ton of open air and away from peer scrutiny might not be the best for focusing, at least not for someone training to do medium stuff without a blinker stone.

[Covalent]

Am I the only one that thinks that it was a fake Renard that he gave Antimony?

[corvis]

Chapter 56: What Actually Happened

Alternatively:

Chapter 56: Why Chapter 55 Happened