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Post by TBeholder on Aug 31, 2015 2:04:08 GMT
wow. Tom Sidell actually edited the page description he must be getting hate posts or something. I'd rather expect him to clarify that it's Anthony Carver and not Mr. Eglamore. But pointing out the difference between square and round corners would do, too. |
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Post by scottjm on Aug 31, 2015 7:11:47 GMT
I don't know about this. Coyote let Reynard be imprisoned for all those years, knowing he'd been tricked. He found it amusing that Rey fell for it, and was suffering the consequences. He may well find any comeuppance of Annie's to be just as amusing. He also had given his word that he wouldn't invade the Court. Which meant he couldn't do much about Rey. If they throw Annie out, she won't be in the Court. This is something I am curious about. Knowing Coyote there had to have been some conditions built into the promise. The might have been subtle, but there would have been some. The court white-washed enough of its history that combined with humanities imperfect and tendencies towards selective memory it is entirely likely that the court might have forgotten some part of the promise. (there are reason treaties are written down and signed, being able to look up the exact wording is one of them). I would not be surprised if the court had either unknowingly or actively tried to something slip by Coyote that invalidated that promise, possibly even a long time ago with Coyote just thinking it is more fun to sit on it and let the court think he is still bound by the promise. Though I would laugh if what they are doing to Annie here actually breaks it, and they is why they brought Tony back so they could try make it look like it was not them so the promise would still be "valid". |
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 1, 2015 3:58:18 GMT
Also, did anyone notice that even half-dead Anthony in bed looked vastly different from how he looks now and appeared from the moment he walked in the class on?
It's not just lack of beard.
He looks almost like "Jonathan" model zombie. Halfway to how the Headmaster looks when he didn't have his weekly dose of helium and just sits in that chair.
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Post by GK Sierra on Sept 13, 2015 14:49:39 GMT
GK Sierra, are you moderating the comments as well? I am. I don't particularly appreciate the venom that people are directing towards each other over the subject of Tony, but as long as there is not swearing and personal attacks then I don't want to delete anyone's post because I don't want to create an environment where people feel like they can't express themselves and banter a bit, as long as everything is good-natured and friendly. At the same time, everybody needs to keep flaming to a minimum. We're all friends and fellow spacemonauts here, there's no reason a sentence can't start with "you know, I think Tony's heel turn face was actually pretty predictable" instead of "LAUGHING ON LINE it's your problem if you didn't see this coming stupid Tony-hater". Everybody has different ideas about the plot, that's what makes GKC fun, so let's share our opinions in a way that's not trying to call someone else mean and stupid because that's what makes it not fun. Tom made me a mod to deal with the spambots that come through every now and again. He didn't say anything about flaming or posts that break Rule 1, which makes me reluctant to step in unless there is something that is clearly inappropriate. Bottom line? Just be nice to each other fam 
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Post by wombat140 on Sept 22, 2015 13:25:38 GMT
I'm having such mixed feelings about Gunnerkrigg these days... first there was "that" chapter, which was emotionally overwhelming in a good way at first, but went so overboard and got so bleak that it almost seemed like the author was sabotaging his own characters. The next chapter was better, reminding us that Annie has other people in her life who aren't terrible, and I certainly didn't see the literally split personality thing coming; still isn't clear how that's going to play out, so it should be interesting. But now we have this... if nothing else, "Dad who is bad but actually it wasn't his fault for contrived reasons, also here's some angst to make you forget that he's a jerk" is kind of cliche, falling into the general tendency of (older) male heroic characters to be broody and difficult and sometimes evil but always secretly pure-hearted. It's also unsettling, because there's an obscene number of real dads/mothers who treat their daughters/sons with just as much heartlessness and control-freak-ness, and they're not doing it because of shady government agents. Who's ever heard of a dad being blackmailed into acting like a drill sergeant? But most of you have probably met one who does so just because he can. In real life, there's almost never a compelling and blame-erasing reason why a parent treats their child horribly. Usually it's something boring and common that can't be fixed, and the child shouldn't have to deal with it if there's any alternative. Mental illness, or alcoholism, or maybe being abused by their own parents 20 years ago. In a story focused on those kinds of issues, you could do something with them; but I get the impression that Annie's the protagonist here, and Gunnerkrigg had been very appropriate for readers of around Annie's age up until this point. But now... Maybe I'll be proven wrong by the rest of this chapter, but I don't like where this is headed. Just seen this. I agree, it would be a bit of a cop-out, doing this detailed psychological story and then "oh - actually, there's a trick explanation, it's not really because of that, it's because of shadowy Court bad guys". But actually, the way Tom's left it, the Court's not really that responsible for the mess. The order was, apparently, "Carver is getting out of hand, deal with it. Oh, and we insist on her repeating Year 9, but you're not to tell her it was us". OK, that last bit is a pretty impossible situation, but if he'd had more sense, he could have A) tried to convince her that it was the best option for her since she obviously wasn't managing the Year 10 work, rather than letting her assume it was simply a punishment, or B) told her anyway and sworn her to secrecy - he must know that Annie is well capable of keeping her own counsel. Instead he shuts down and doesn't speak except to pass on the Court's sentences - that still remains the result of Anthony's depression, obsession and general wrong-headedness. Though that doesn't change the fact that, having seen what did happen, somebody at the Court (besides Donny) had a responsibility to have a word with him about it. And Coyote clearly thinks so too. |
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