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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 7:05:03 GMT
The Bone spears. He was clearly targeting the flame within her. It will kill her someday, he knows it first hand. He was trying to save her life by ridding her of it. If that's true, it's also quite possible removing the flame will kill her. After all, that flame being removed from Surma via baby is what killed her. Maybe that's part of the reason he want's Rey - to learn how an individual's essence can leave/be removed from a body without killing it. If he figured out how Rey's body hopping worked he might think "now I simply need to get the elemental part of her essence to separate from the rest and leave her body". Like some sort of metaphysical split-brain procedure. |
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Post by matoyak on Apr 8, 2015 7:35:18 GMT
If that's true, it's also quite possible removing the flame will kill her. After all, that flame being removed from Surma via baby is what killed her. Maybe that's part of the reason he want's Rey - to learn how an individual's essence can leave/be removed from a body without killing it. If he figured out how Rey's body hopping worked he might think "now I simply need to get the elemental part of her essence to separate from the rest and leave her body". Like some sort of metaphysical split-brain procedure. But Rey's a bad place to start with that. What with him killing the body when he leaves it. Unless he plans to figure out why it doesn't work the way it does for Coyote? That seems...unlikely to happen, considering even Coyote doesn't know. Possible, I suppose. And it isn't like him taking Renard away can't serve multiple purposes, only one of which being a possible experiment on how to separate the etheric from the mundane. |
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Post by AnUpliftedCuttlefish on Apr 8, 2015 7:50:08 GMT
Maybe that's part of the reason he want's Rey - to learn how an individual's essence can leave/be removed from a body without killing it. If he figured out how Rey's body hopping worked he might think "now I simply need to get the elemental part of her essence to separate from the rest and leave her body". Like some sort of metaphysical split-brain procedure. But Rey's a bad place to start with that. What with him killing the body when he leaves it. Unless he plans to figure out why it doesn't work the way it does for Coyote? That seems...unlikely to happen, considering even Coyote doesn't know. Possible, I suppose. And it isn't like him taking Renard away can't serve multiple purposes, only one of which being a possible experiment on how to separate the etheric from the mundane. Yes, if that is part of it I'd think it'd be more why it didn't kill Rey's original body. And we don't know how arrogant Anthony is - but he has seemed dismissive of the forest so far. He might think he could find out something Coyote couldn't. And if he does want to remove Antimony's flame it means he's trying to do someone no one else has done/been able to do anyway (or no one has tried). And indeed - I honestly think his reasons for wanting Rey will likely be complex. Or it'll turn out he was in love with the boy Rey killed and this is just the culmination of a very long plan to get his revenge (I don't actually think that. Or do I...) |
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 8, 2015 13:34:59 GMT
Anything with eyes. It's a pity Tony doesn't have a camera in his prosthetic. We could see the hilarious hijinks of Carver's Out-of-Control hand. We could see Tony going through the ordeal completely straight faced. [snip] "Oh dear, not Eglamore." Sooo... Eglamore/Anthony Slash fic anyone? As if, you needed to ask. |
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Post by pxc on Apr 8, 2015 13:47:36 GMT
I sort of expect that Antimony's act of defiance will be to free Reynard outright, but that the rest of the punishments will stand. Rey could escape to the Forest, reclaim his old body, and become the new Forest Medium. [edit] It's odd, and exciting, that the beginning of this book doesn't match my recollection of the other books. Did any open with such a clear conflict by the third chapter? I think that'd be a great way to change up Rey's character. He already feels a little cast aside now that he can't live in the dorm room with Annie. I'd really enjoy him freed and with the new position of Forest Medium. I think his interactions with Coyote and Ysengrin could be fantastic. |
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Post by kelantar on Apr 8, 2015 14:14:03 GMT
Tony is the kind of teacher who goes into Hogwarts and tells the kids they can't fight Lord Voldemort anymore. The only other fictional character to make me this mad was Professor Umbridge, so I'm 100% with you on this. If the "I support Mr. Carver" banners don't disappear, there has clearly been a misunderstanding. Carver is nothing short of the evilest, vilest thing to appear in the comic. I'm going to punch a hole in my wall if he doesn't get his comeuppance very soon.How many people still have those? Two? And I still think we need "Anthony Carver is a complete douchenozzle" banners. And I'd say finally - that just shows the poor execution of this on Anthony's part*. If he thinks her friends are possible bad influences he clearly knows nothing about them, (or Antimony, for that matter) and isolating her from them achieves nothing but pain. Doing something like actually speaking to Antimony first would be a much better place to start fixing this.. First you get her attention, which has proven remarkably difficult to do. Didn't look that hard to me. I do agree that a lot of hyperbole is being thrown around, but I don't think most people are really saying Anthony is, I dunno, "destroy the world" or "kill all the puppies" evil (except in jest), but rather the more insidious kind of evil that is much more normal and exists all around us. Perhaps you think I'm being extreme too, but I think a clear picture has been painted that Anthony is an abusive father, whether intentional or not, and I am of the opinion that child abuse is an evil act, although maybe not an EVIL! act. Anthony isn't acting evil if you look at this from a neutral view. I think there's a semantic problem here. A neutral point of view and the court/his view are two very different things. From Anthony's point of view, he might feel justified, but plenty of people feel justified in doing the wrong thing. And even from Annie's point of view we might feel like he's justified. After all, she acquiesces to his every request and, as Kat put it, "she's always got an excuse for him." I think the thing to notice here is that we DO have a somewhat neutral view. We don't have all the information, but neither do Annie or Anthony. And unlike them, we are aware that they are fictional characters, and at this point have all the information we are supposed to have. I'm gonna bring up something Tom said on Twitter: Attachment DeletedThe readers (for the most part) are SO angry at Anthony, I feel it difficult to believe that we aren't supposed to be angry at him. And from a "neutral" point of view, I see a man who hasn't seen his daughter for years show up without warning only to berate her and push her to the brink of tears while stripping her life of everything else that had meaning for her. Whether he knows how much these things mean to her is of no consequence because he's made no effort to find out. So rather than try to justify his actions with vague theories ("He's really just trying to save her!" is as wildspec as saying "He's been trying to harness her fire elemental power to create a Death Ray and destroy the moon!"), I'm going with what we've seen of him, which doesn't make me feel very fluffy. This is my favorite comment from the comments for this page, so I thought I'd post it here (and I hope the poster - who goes by the name of jf - doesn't mind) to preserve it: "Sorry, but I've got to call it now. We have three options right now; 1) This entire story is simply some form of dream. 2) This story goes on to affect the entire status quo of the comic. 3) This story goes ahead, but some event a little later on resets the status quo back to normal. All three of these options (unless Tom pulls something really special off with #2) are probably going to signal a decline in the comic's writing. Option 1) is tired gimmick. Option 2) seems extremely risky, as it removes almost everything in the comic that we're used to. Option 3) is similar to 1) in terms of it's cop-out level; it would mostly reduce this chapter to filler. Either way, unless Tom has something really spectacular he's about to pull off here, I honestly can't see this chapter ending in a way that works properly. " That's concerned me as I read more of this chapter. Tom's written some effective drama here - but I wonder how these developments will affect the long-term future of the comic. At present, two-thirds of the main cast are all but being written out of the comic (Annie's clearly going to be spending all her days from now on studying under her father's supervision - presumably with no time allowed for anything else - and I suspect that Antony will be having Reynardine locked up again). Kat can perhaps continue on her own (maybe with Paz promoted to a full-scale major character), but with this many big changes at once.... Tom's shown himself to be a good writer. I'm sure he knows what he's doing, and since his schedule gives him three chapters in reserve, he'd have certainly found out by the time he'd started posting these pages if he'd written himself into a corner. But I think that jf has raised a good point, that's gone all but unnoticed amid the heated Antony debate. Eh, if someone thinks there are only three places a story can go at any given point, they aren't very familiar with how literature works. Also, what's wrong with changing the status quo? If the status quo in a story never changed, the story would never progress (or at least be very boring). Who's to say that we won't see a large temporary shift, and then another event where things start to come back together, even if things aren't quite the same as they were before? I don't think it's fair to think that an author who has consistently kept the audience entertained hasn't thought this through just because we don't know what direction it's going. In fact, I think it's a hallmark of good storytelling that we occasionally get to points in the story where we have no idea how it's going to turn out. 2) This story goes on to affect the entire status quo of the comic. 3) This story goes ahead, but some event a little later on resets the status quo back to normalI don't think this applies as phrased because GC is not a story structured around "status quo". It's not a matter of "things go on as always" versus "huge change bluh bluh" but "things develop bit by bit" versus "things get shaken up for real". Personally I like the "slice of life" type chapters (carriage rides and haircuts are the best), but there's always a faction urging Tom to "get on with it". Agreed on all points. This slice of life sure hurts my heart, though. Anything with eyes. It's a pity Tony doesn't have a camera in his prosthetic. We could see the hilarious hijinks of Carver's Out-of-Control hand. We could see Tony going through the ordeal completely straight faced. [snip] "Oh dear, not Eglamore." Sooo... Eglamore/Anthony Slash fic anyone? I may be risking internet-type speak here, but I think that would rustle Jimmy's jimmies. (translation: Eglamore would probably not be pleased. I on the other hand... I might give it a read.) |
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Post by warrl on Apr 8, 2015 20:21:59 GMT
I don't think he's evil, or the evilest evil (I mean he hasn't kicked Paz's puppy yet), but I think it'll need a pretty impressive justification to excuses how he's behaved in regards to Antimony since returning. And that's including most every scenario I can think of, or have seen proposed* *Unless it's one of the ones that includes something like " Antimony would be in danger is someone/something saw Anthony being nice to her". But why someone/something would let him back in her life, but not allow him to support her emotionally/mentally would be curious. And even then I'd argue that the makeup thing was still pointless, because teachers are expected to behave in a civilized fashion towards their students anyway. And, he did call Annie and pass her a message of incomprehensible gibberish that Mr. Donlan had to decipher - and apparently consisted of nothing but a shopping list and delivery instructions. He could have either actually said something to Annie himself, or included a message to her in the gibberish. Also: he just automatically assumed Annie would remember that gibberish, word for word, precisely. And she did. Think about what this says regarding 1) the past relationship between the two of them and 2) how much Annie actually needed to cheat. Anthony isn't acting evil if you look at this from a neutral view. I agree. All Anthony did kind of makes sense from parent's point of view. Very little of this makes sense from a parent's point of view. Less makes sense from a teacher's point of view. All of it makes sense from an abusive control freak's point of view. |
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Post by Daedalus on Apr 8, 2015 20:40:07 GMT
Also: he just automatically assumed Annie would remember that gibberish, word for word, precisely. And she did. Think about what this says regarding 1) the past relationship between the two of them and 2) how much Annie actually needed to cheat. Huh. Never considered that. I wonder if Tony's ever expected her to transfer messages like that before? (as in, before Chapter 1) |
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Post by amantis on Apr 8, 2015 22:43:04 GMT
That kind of inherently means that you haven't matured enough to earn your liberty yet. One does not need to "earn" liberty. It is a fundamental right of all sentient beings. You're free to do as you wish until someone can stop you. Whether it be with physical force or an adequate enforceable threat. This isn't to say you SHOULD do whatever you want, people still have personal morals and ethics. But the fact that I'm not programmed by someone else to follow their every order means I don't have to listen to them if I don't want to. Edit: What I'm saying is, Annie has every right, by virtue of being a person, to say "Nope, ain't having this shit." pick up the things she needs to survive, and get the fuck out of there. She has the support and might to oppose Anthony if she just realized it. She has a home in the Forest, she has Zimmy (sorta) who is an omega level reality warper, she has an apparently very powerful robot-god like best friend with the combined army of every robot in the court, she has etheric abilities thanks to her bloodline, I'm not sure which adults would defend her some have probably already been conscripted by Anthony, Coyote may be able to be convinced to defend her if just to mess with Anthony. |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Apr 9, 2015 7:11:11 GMT
Not to split hairs or anything, but by "omega level reality warper" are you referring to Marvel comics mutant classifications? Because comparing Zimmy to the likes Mad Jim Jaspers is like comparing a pop gun to the Tsar Bomba.
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Post by kaivetieno on Apr 9, 2015 7:26:19 GMT
Everybody is talking about Tony, and I'm just concerned with Annie. What kind of impression does Anthony leave on Annie's childhood, that she easily agreed to all demands that will end her comfortable life? Annie is practically smiling from the end of the class, and I thought it was only her being happy meeting her long lost dad. But to be easily caved in to those demands, I'd think that Annie worship her dad.
She can rebel against her school, against her teachers, against her substitute father figure, against a physical god. But she can't rebel against a long lost (real) dad?
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Apr 9, 2015 7:37:42 GMT
She can, she just needs a swift kick in the keester to motivate her to stand up for herself.
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Post by speedwell on Apr 9, 2015 8:48:44 GMT
She can, she just needs a swift kick in the keester to motivate her to stand up for herself. Honestly, what do you get out of this besides the usual troll's contrarian rush? |
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Post by zimmyzims on Apr 9, 2015 9:41:00 GMT
That kind of inherently means that you haven't matured enough to earn your liberty yet. One does not need to "earn" liberty. It is a fundamental right of all sentient beings. You're free to do as you wish until someone can stop you. Whether it be with physical force or an adequate enforceable threat. No, this is not at all what the right to liberty means. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 9, 2015 16:18:04 GMT
Like I said in my previous post, it may be that Mr. Carver has been misinformed by whoever he's been talking to within the Court about the value or nature of his daughter's mediumship and time spent in the forest. Maybe it would be better to say that he may have been getting his information from a source with a bias or even an ax to grind about how Antimony disrespects the Court in the opinion of some members of the Court. That's fairly obvious. Of course, it's still the maze of twisty passages which is Gunnerkrigg, but even then. However, the reason this was/could be possible is because of his long-term absence from her life. The length of time he's spent going over her scores and work from the previous term demonstrate to me that at least some of this was voluntary. That, and lacking experience like this. And we don't know how much he actually deals with people, but as you noted, he used to avoid interaction - which means his experience in this area is likely to be both minimal and lopsided. Also, he was, and most likely is unwise to the people around, possibly to the degree of being an idiot-savant. I mean, the moment one plows into anything touches polyticks or the sort of furball that must have happened before Surma left, for anyone with full set of marbles inside and not raised in a cave it says: "you have to step very carefully, swinging a metal detector slow and low and double-checking even those you trust, because they may be misled". I really doubt he as much as asked Donald for the second opinion or to double-check his plans. So, it would be almost a miracle if he didn't anything jaw-droppingly foolish during his first two days in Court. Maybe that's part of the reason he want's Rey - to learn how an individual's essence can leave/be removed from a body without killing it. If he figured out how Rey's body hopping worked he might think "now I simply need to get the elemental part of her essence to separate from the rest and leave her body". Like some sort of metaphysical split-brain procedure. But Rey's a bad place to start with that. What with him killing the body when he leaves it. Looks like a good place to start. Also, the mice are supervised by Paz... Of course, this requires an air castle only slightly less high than that of zomgbonelasors in the first place. And, he did call Annie and pass her a message of incomprehensible gibberish that Mr. Donlan had to decipher - and apparently consisted of nothing but a shopping list and delivery instructions. He could have either actually said something to Annie himself, or included a message to her in the gibberish. Also: he just automatically assumed Annie would remember that gibberish, word for word, precisely. And she did. Think about what this says regarding 1) the past relationship between the two of them and 2) how much Annie actually needed to cheat. Good point. The most obvious answer to the second part, though, is "irrelevant, because the Court isn't focused on meaningles parrotting" - it's not a public school. |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Apr 9, 2015 18:28:22 GMT
She can, she just needs a swift kick in the keester to motivate her to stand up for herself. Honestly, what do you get out of this besides the usual troll's contrarian rush? Just because I don't agree with you that doesn't make me a troll. |
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Post by speedwell on Apr 9, 2015 19:02:59 GMT
Honestly, what do you get out of this besides the usual troll's contrarian rush? Just because I don't agree with you that doesn't make me a troll. No, your actions and words do. Mind answering the question? I think we'd all like a better insight into the mindset that can produce your fascinating way of thinking. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 9, 2015 19:47:03 GMT
Just a thought, genteel forum-goers: It is possible to enjoy reading the comic in several ways. Antimony is a troubled young girl. Her father is possibly abusive. It is okay to want to see her receive help and then have good things happen to her in the comic as she matures into a young woman. That would be a great story. Antimony is also a cartoon character who has adventures. It is okay to want to see her dad, who is also a cartoon character, get a big bloody smackdown when he tries to get in the way of her adventures. That would be cool. It is also okay to be frustrated with Antimony because she isn't asking the questions you would, doing the stuff you would, or focusing on the mysteries around her instead of family and friend stuff. More adventure would be fun. Like I said in my previous post... That's fairly obvious. I know, I'm repeating myself. Each time the thread circles around in my direction again I have the urge to take a poke at it. Hopefully I'm managing to elaborate a little, at least.  |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Apr 9, 2015 20:43:44 GMT
No, your actions and words do. Except that they don't. You're just mad that I don't agree with you that Anthony is the worst person that has ever existed, and that Antimony is the reason the sun rises and sets in the morning. It's a loaded question, so yes, I very much mind. Try phrasing it in a manner that doesn't betray your blatant bias. |
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Post by speedwell on Apr 9, 2015 20:47:57 GMT
No, your actions and words do. Except that they don't. You're just mad that I don't agree with you that Anthony is the worst person that has ever existed, and that Antimony is the reason the sun rises and sets in the morning. It's a loaded question, so yes, I very much mind. Try phrasing it in a manner that doesn't betray your blatant bias. Yawn. No longer amusing. |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Apr 9, 2015 20:54:11 GMT
I accept your admission of defeat.
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Post by speedwell on Apr 9, 2015 21:10:48 GMT
I accept your admission of defeat. Oh, is that what you think that was? I don't have any faith in your powers of literary analysis at all, at all, so I'll take that with a grain of salt, or better, a dram of single malt Scotch. |
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Post by Chancellor on Apr 9, 2015 21:30:15 GMT
No, your actions and words do. Except that they don't. You're just mad that I don't agree with you that Anthony is the worst person that has ever existed, and that Antimony is the reason the sun rises and sets in the morning.
It's a loaded question, so yes, I very much mind. Try phrasing it in a manner that doesn't betray your blatant bias. I'm finding this mindset genuinely tiresome. Nobody-and I'd like you to find quoted examples to the contrary-is or has made statements in the slightest similarity to that. Everyone who disagrees with Anthony has at the least concurred with the notion that Annie's cheating was a habit that needed to be corrected. I am of the position that Anthony has displayed little but an expertise in reprehensibly poor parenting, but maintain that another antagonist and a "good" character (Diego and Rey respectively) have both taken lives, something that as of yet even Mr. Carver has not done, which disqualifies him from being the "worst" person in the known context of the story, but he still makes great strides towards becoming the most personally odious. So kindly cease your faulty assertions, if within your capabilities. |
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Post by Refugee on Apr 9, 2015 22:45:54 GMT
And, [Anthony] did call Annie and pass her a message of incomprehensible gibberish that Mr. Donlan had to decipher - and apparently consisted of nothing but a shopping list and delivery instructions. He could have either actually said something to Annie himself, or included a message to her in the gibberish. Anthony and Donald were using a one time pad. That means they were concerned about other parties listening in. I doubt that Annie was suspect, although of course we cannot be certain--it's entirely possible that Anthony passed a warning to Donald that Annie might be struggling. Normal cryptographic concerns may not apply, but I have not heard that the users of one time pads gush. I wonder, again, what Anthony was doing that required a scalpel. And then I remember that etherically, the scalpel may well have had symbolic value as well as a sharp edge. I'm wondering about bone towers. Coincidentally, I am re-reading The Hunt for Red October, which deals extensively with security matters. There's a game-changing message that US forces haven't interpreted yet--but the fact of the message itself, the identity of the sender, and of the recipients, reveals a very great deal about what is going on. The mindset that story instills makes for very interesting reading applied here. Oh, yeah, very much so. In reverse order: she didn't need to cheat at all, and Annie and her Father were very close. Annie's memory of her Daddy wrapping her foot seemed very warm. I'm a little amazed that people read that as Anthony pressing Annie so hard she injured her foot, and what a bad Daddy he was for that; but I have always thought that he was wrapping her foot before the practice for reinforcement. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 9, 2015 22:56:20 GMT
Hmmm, the mood in these threads has turned quite sour... THANKS ANTHONY!  I feel so out of place here right now, guess it's time for a forum break. The whole thing looks quite like a raid (observe post counts). They even brought obvious trolls that "argue" with them (stomp the hooves). Want to bet on time until they'll claim everyone who argues with them is a troll, in hope admins are half asleep? Their love for the comic makes some people act in strange ways. This chapter is awesome in a painful way, but because it touches peoples real experiences and opinions, the forum is almost unreadable at the moment. You could block users for a while until the dust settles. 1) Let me doubt that. At least half of the Suddenly Appearing Choir quite obviously didn't read the comic past a few links pertinent to the talking points. As was pointed to them on at least every other page of every thread (not that it leads anywhere). 2) The current theme also tickles egos... and very real pocketses. 3) If ignore works for fish. The new forum is very buggy. Also, it's only a temporary solution - even if we all did this, it would still harm the forum, because newbies (who aren't from the raid) won't join the ugly mess. Interesting to watch the hypocrisy... [...] No sense of innocent till proven guilty, when obvious there could be reasons... What hypocrisy? Witch-burning is unabashed, gleeful and the whole point. |
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Post by Chancellor on Apr 9, 2015 23:28:02 GMT
Hmmm, the mood in these threads has turned quite sour... THANKS ANTHONY! I feel so out of place here right now, guess it's time for a forum break.
They even brought obvious trolls that "argue" with them (stomp the hooves). Want to bet on time until they'll claim everyone who argues with them is a troll, in hope admins are half asleep?Their love for the comic makes some people act in strange ways. This chapter is awesome in a painful way, but because it touches peoples real experiences and opinions, the forum is almost unreadable at the moment. You could block users for a while until the dust settles. 1) Let me doubt that. At least half of the Suddenly Appearing Choir quite obviously didn't read the comic past a few links pertinent to the talking points. As was pointed to them on at least every other page of every thread (not that it leads anywhere). 2) The current theme also tickles egos... and very real pocketses. 3) If ignore works for fish. The new forum is very buggy. Also, it's only a temporary solution - even if we all did this, it would still harm the forum, because newbies (who aren't from the raid) won't join the ugly mess. Interesting to watch the hypocrisy... [...] No sense of innocent till proven guilty, when obvious there could be reasons... What hypocrisy? Witch-burning is unabashed, gleeful and the whole point. Oh come off it. What happened to not assuming the worst about people? |
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Post by Daedalus on Apr 10, 2015 0:16:56 GMT
Annie's memory of her Daddy wrapping her foot seemed very warm. I'm a little amazed that people read that as Anthony pressing Annie so hard she injured her foot, and what a bad Daddy he was for that; but I have always thought that he was wrapping her foot before the practice for reinforcement. I've always thought that too; actually, I had no idea anyone had thought it was an injury. If there's a relevant WoT, please correct me. But I always read that as Tony being so distant that Annie craved even non-emotional moments to connect with him. She loves him very much, that is clear. He probably loves her, in his own way, but love can make him act in strange (and terrible) ways. If that's true, it's also quite possible removing the flame will kill her. After all, that flame being removed from Surma via baby is what killed her. Maybe that's part of the reason he want's Rey - to learn how an individual's essence can leave/be removed from a body without killing it. If he figured out how Rey's body hopping worked he might think "now I simply need to get the elemental part of her essence to separate from the rest and leave her body". Like some sort of metaphysical split-brain procedure. Clever and interesting idea, but he can't directly observe the soul-jumping process. I believe that Tom has said that, if Annie was to make him jump into something else, he'd be out of her control in the air between and thus would not have to re-enter something that belonged to her. The same would happen to Anthony if he ordered Rey to jump, and the only eyed object around other than the intended vessel would be dear Father himself. Though...that could be very interesting. |
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Post by antiyonder on Apr 10, 2015 0:21:52 GMT
Oh, yeah, very much so. In reverse order: she didn't need to cheat at all, and Annie and her Father were very close. Annie's memory of her Daddy wrapping her foot seemed very warm. I'm a little amazed that people read that as Anthony pressing Annie so hard she injured her foot, and what a bad Daddy he was for that; but I have always thought that he was wrapping her foot before the practice for reinforcement. For what it's worth, I do at least see that as perhaps one of the possibly few best moments they had together. But yeah I don't see abuse in it. |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on Apr 10, 2015 0:23:35 GMT
I'm finding this mindset genuinely tiresome. Nobody-and I'd like you to find quoted examples to the contrary-is or has made statements in the slightest similarity to that. Everyone who disagrees with Anthony has at the least concurred with the notion that Annie's cheating was a habit that needed to be corrected. I am of the position that Anthony has displayed little but an expertise in reprehensibly poor parenting, but maintain that another antagonist and a "good" character (Diego and Rey respectively) have both taken lives, something that as of yet even Mr. Carver has not done, which disqualifies him from being the "worst" person in the known context of the story, but he still makes great strides towards becoming the most personally odious. So kindly cease your faulty assertions, if within your capabilities. And I find the mindset that Anthony is an unrepentant abuser who is psychologically sabotaging Annie to get himself off to be tiresome. Similarly, the idea that I must be a troll for disagreeing with this mindset. If you want to point fingers at people making false assertions, point them at speedwell and the other plebs, not me. |
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 10, 2015 0:48:26 GMT
Oh come off it. What happened to not assuming the worst about people? The term " reasonable doubt" is phrased so for a reason. At some point things become so obvious that doubt becomes unreasonable: - I was standing there, cleaning an orange with a knife. This guy runs by, slips on an orange peel and falls right on my knife, so unfortunate.
- And then he stood up, slipped again and repeated this 15 times?If someone is selling a bridge, the conclusion is foregone to the full length of the bridge. If a public wiki engine got 20 users per day registering under names like ChairJoseph99 and falling silent, those are spambots trying to circumvent quarantine timer. And so on. Raids can be just as blatant and recognizable. See in the next thread. |
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