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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 3, 2013 14:19:30 GMT
Do we have a board for genenal use in the forum? I mean, where you can talk about all the off topic stuff? Most forums I visit lurk have one, and it's usually one of the most heavily-trafficked boards.
*Created after the "rate the signatures" thread
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Post by Toloc on Dec 3, 2013 15:16:24 GMT
Seconded
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Post by Xan on Dec 3, 2013 15:28:38 GMT
No.
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Basically, under the current forum structure this board is combining both on- and off-topic, and the rules do not discourage the latter.
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Post by quinkgirl on Dec 3, 2013 15:58:57 GMT
We could have one? I mean, it could just turn to one thing though. GKC is a wide topic, and subtopics usually take ages to wear out.
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 3, 2013 18:29:57 GMT
Usually the abandoned page threads are where the off-topic discussion happens. The last off-topic thread was deleted. Not saying this one will, I'm just saying. |
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Post by Per on Dec 3, 2013 19:13:34 GMT
People have asked for an off-topic board before and Tom has said no. Given his general attitude towards internet, I doubt he wants to be responsible for one, regardless of moderation specifics.
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Post by snipertom on Dec 3, 2013 23:52:21 GMT
I guess we could create an unofficial forum or community but is that a good idea really?
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Post by SilverbackRon on Dec 4, 2013 4:21:35 GMT
I guess we could create an unofficial forum or community but is that a good idea really? I am 50/50 on this idea. I really like the idea of getting to know my fellow forumites better, discussing things non-GC related (favorite anime, pets, pet peeves, life, whatever), but I also realize this should be... MUST be the one Gunnerkrigg forum board. Splitting members out to an external site might deplete some of the lively and interesting conversations we have here. So I am torn. |
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Post by The Anarch on Dec 4, 2013 4:24:02 GMT
It could be called Off the Court.
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Post by Covalent on Dec 4, 2013 4:27:07 GMT
If you guys have Skype, we could always form a Skype group.
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 4, 2013 4:46:05 GMT
I guess we could create an unofficial forum or community but is that a good idea really? I am 50/50 on this idea. I really like the idea of getting to know my fellow forumites better, discussing things non-GC related (favorite anime, pets, pet peeves, life, whatever), but I also realize this should be... MUST be the one Gunnerkrigg forum board. Splitting members out to an external site might deplete some of the lively and interesting conversations we have here. So I am torn. Thing is, that already kinda happens  I mean of course topics aren't deliberately steered off-track or anything, but it's pretty rare to find a 3+ page thread that hasn't wandered off at least once. But yeah, it's probably not the best idea to split activity to a different board..don't want a misc board filling with activity at the expense of actual discussion  (plus, maybe the proposed IM/IRC/whatever channel might be better for this sort of thing?) |
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 4, 2013 4:56:06 GMT
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 4, 2013 5:08:04 GMT
One day... I too, will be a Gunner.
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Post by thshrkpnchr on Dec 4, 2013 5:39:49 GMT
People have asked for an off-topic board before and Tom has said no. Given his general attitude towards internet, I doubt he wants to be responsible for one, regardless of moderation specifics. Ah, well..., sorry for the dumb newbie mistake. Should have noticed the fact that the forums been very well for years without such a board before making a thread  |
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Post by fwip on Dec 4, 2013 6:02:48 GMT
Not dumb. It wouldn't have gotten that much support if it was dumb. I personally am a little against it, mostly because I like the forums the way they are.
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Post by SilverbackRon on Dec 4, 2013 6:04:16 GMT
People have asked for an off-topic board before and Tom has said no. Given his general attitude towards internet, I doubt he wants to be responsible for one, regardless of moderation specifics. Ah, well..., sorry for the dumb newbie mistake. Should have noticed the fact that the forums been very well for years without such a board before making a thread No no no! Nothing dumb about that question. Most forum boards I visit (and the couple I have moderated) always had an off-topic section. I myself found it odd that there wasn't such a sub-forum when I started visiting here. I just lurked for quite a while and eventually figured out why. Otherwise I would have asked too. I personally think any forum needs a place for just community talk. But I also know the board always belongs to the owner who makes the final rules. If Tom doesn't want one, well, that's that. Per's explanation makes perfect sense to me. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 4, 2013 6:16:28 GMT
I guess we could create an unofficial forum or community but is that a good idea really? I was under the impression that the buttzone was the unofficial gathering place. If so, the GKC thread over at Something Awful's BSS forum would undoubtedly be the posh private lounge. |
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Post by Señor Goose on Dec 4, 2013 6:31:48 GMT
I guess we could create an unofficial forum or community but is that a good idea really? I was under the impression that the buttzone was the unofficial gathering place. If so, the GKC thread over at Something Awful's BSS forum would undoubtedly be the posh private lounge. I'm on the Butt Zone right now. It sucks. /sci/ is so much better. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 4, 2013 7:16:08 GMT
Hmm. This forum is polite but we *have* grown a bit quirky without general chat. And that has probably caused the fanbase to stay smaller than it should have been... which has allowed some spiders to scuttle away what could have been turned into dollar signs one way or another over the years for the author. But if Mr. Siddell is not inclined (or just doesn't have time) to moderate or midwife a general chat thing then I suppose the next best option is for someone to just start their own forum or something. Without official sanction that is likely to fizzle which is why nobody has done so already. Even if it works there will be some traffic cannibalized from this one, though that's not a big deal since the comic will keep routing new people to it. But maybe it's time to try it and see what happens. You guys who were lobbying Mr. Siddell to make you into mods, I guess that can be your big chance if you wish. You can even make him a mod on your forum.
So, names? >Combine Proboards forum with Butt Zone. You make the HALF*SSED!
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Post by freeformline on Dec 4, 2013 8:13:55 GMT
I guess we could create an unofficial forum or community but is that a good idea really? I am 50/50 on this idea. I really like the idea of getting to know my fellow forumites better, discussing things non-GC related (favorite anime, pets, pet peeves, life, whatever), but I also realize this should be... MUST be the one Gunnerkrigg forum board. Splitting members out to an external site might deplete some of the lively and interesting conversations we have here. So I am torn. If you just want to get to know random things about people (or actually learn something cool about them), the introduction thread is a good way to go. Last time I was on there, I had a discussion of firearms and Scouting. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 4, 2013 8:17:07 GMT
Hmm. This forum is polite but we *have* grown a bit quirky without general chat. And that has probably caused the fanbase to stay smaller than it should have been... which has allowed some spiders to scuttle away what could have been turned into dollar signs one way or another over the years for the author. But if Mr. Siddell is not inclined (or just doesn't have time) to moderate or midwife a general chat thing then I suppose the next best option is for someone to just start their own forum or something. Without official sanction that is likely to fizzle which is why nobody has done so already. Even if it works there will be some traffic cannibalized from this one, though that's not a big deal since the comic will keep routing new people to it. But maybe it's time to try it and see what happens. You guys who were lobbying Mr. Siddell to make you into mods, I guess that can be your big chance if you wish. You can even make him a mod on your forum. So, names? >Combine Proboards forum with Butt Zone. You make the HALF*SSED! Probutts. The Pro Zone. Gunnerkrigg Lite. Are you guys writing these down? (Also, who was lobbying Tom to become a mod? That is like, the most thankless job ever.) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 4, 2013 8:50:29 GMT
Also, who was lobbying Tom to become a mod? That is like, the most thankless job ever. In the forum openly? Just one within recent memory but others farther back. You can search on forum, help and moderator if you wish. But I figure for every one openly suggesting it there were probably others sending mail offering to help. And yeah, doing a good job would be a pain and eat tons of time. |
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 4, 2013 8:57:06 GMT
On this forum it wouldn't be so bad since usually people behave themselves with little outside prodding. It would be nice to be able to get rid of the spam and troublemakers faster.
I have a feeling they aren't going to just go away once this chapter is done. The internet is persistent.
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 4, 2013 9:02:40 GMT
It would be nice to have an actually-active moderator around here. After last weekend's incident, it's kinda clear that this isn't exactly an efficient system the way it is right now :/
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 4, 2013 9:08:22 GMT
I guess I shouldn't say too much without knowing what was in the email... it must have been pretty good to get him doxed... but really as far as trolls go wasn't he sort of small fry?
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 4, 2013 9:16:21 GMT
I guess I shouldn't say too much without knowing what was in the email... it must have been pretty good to get him doxed... but really as far as trolls go wasn't he sort of small fry? And a rank amateur at that, if he emailed from an address that is linked to an online presence significant enough to identify him in real life. I think it is safe to assume he was not the brightest bulb on the Hanukkah Tree. |
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 4, 2013 9:18:23 GMT
I guess I shouldn't say too much without knowing what was in the email... it must have been pretty good to get him doxed... but really as far as trolls go wasn't he sort of small fry? And a rank amateur at that, if he emailed from an address that is linked to an online presence significant enough to identify him in real life. I think it is safe to assume he was not the brightest bulb on the Hanukkah Tree. This is true, but even so it took a couple days to get the thing dealt with. I'm assuming this doesn't happen too often, though..? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 4, 2013 9:40:59 GMT
And a rank amateur at that, if he emailed from an address that is linked to an online presence significant enough to identify him in real life. I think it is safe to assume he was not the brightest bulb on the Hanukkah Tree. This is true, but even so it took a couple days to get the thing dealt with. I'm assuming this doesn't happen too often, though..? This is the first time in recent memory. To my recollection, hypetrain was the only person who ever came on the forums expressly for the purpose of trolling. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Dec 4, 2013 9:54:22 GMT
Not very often at all. But I guess the delay was because of the con. Also there were a lot of posts because of the controversy to wade through, that thread may have been low priority. (shrug) But if he really wanted to yank cranks for the sake of it while the admin and only mod was busy and people were ripe for it he missed his moment, so I dunno what that dude was thinking.
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 4, 2013 9:56:10 GMT
He wasn't thinking at all, probably. Otherwise he wouldn't have sent Tom an email announcing what he was about to do.
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I mean of course topics aren't deliberately steered off-track or anything, but it's pretty rare to find a 3+ page thread that hasn't wandered off at least once.
