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Post by zylonbane on Mar 7, 2011 12:56:58 GMT
Kat is being a Bad Robot.
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Post by Alexandragon on Mar 7, 2011 13:17:56 GMT
Alexandragon: No, that'd be the end of this year, not the beginning, unless Tom is taking some liberties with time. (Still, sooner than ever oh my god yesss) Thanks.
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Post by paxjax123 on Mar 7, 2011 13:38:04 GMT
Oh God, noooooooo I expected anger. I think cold shoulder is way worse.
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Post by Anthony on Mar 7, 2011 13:51:57 GMT
I doubt she has made a decision to part ways with Annie, but I am sure her feelings toward her are complex right now. That said, her blankness was surprising to me. No glaring, just...nothing. Maybe Kat is not sure if she can trust Annie now. It wasn't just a summer vacation in a forest, it was summer vacation in Gillitie Wood which is Court's adversary. You know, in Soviet Union they considered almost any person who had travelled abroad to be a potential traitor during the cold war. Not that I think Kat is that paranoid, though.
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Post by hanneswall on Mar 7, 2011 13:57:57 GMT
Well this exceeded my expectations awkardness-wise. Well played, Mr Sidell! Well played.
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Post by 0o0f on Mar 7, 2011 14:18:18 GMT
Oh... Oh no. Not the cold shoulder. But yes, my first thought was "whoa, role reversal much?" I love Kat's new look.
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Post by q3 on Mar 7, 2011 14:29:17 GMT
Kat is being a Bad Robot. Are we sure this isn't actually Kat's new robot? Next page Kat walks in, "Oh hey Annie, how do you like my new robot? I haven't installed its emotion chip yet because I want to make sure it won't flip out and kill everyone."
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Post by Rafael on Mar 7, 2011 14:32:36 GMT
You guys are bees. Bees, I tell you! I just woke up and there are three pages already!
This is breaking my heart. I'm stupidly optimistic, so I actually expected a warm reunion and them exchanging stories, but instead... this. I mean, Kat is the cute and spunky one. I can't stand seeing her like that.
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Post by rainofsteel on Mar 7, 2011 14:42:30 GMT
Kat is not acting nice. Who knows what else Kat may have gone through over the summer, That was my first thought. Just what happened to Kat over the summer? If Kat was on a trip in Scotland (boo hoo, so terrible), albeit without Annie, to return to give Annie the current reaction, that is just wrong. Is that the limit of Kat's feelings of friendship? If Kat suffered some devastating experience over the summer, one she can't blurt out, that would make me more sympathetic. Also, Jones was asked to report what happened to Kat, but who knows if she did or what she actually said or how it was taken. Version 1: Jones says to Kat, "Carver decided to stay in the forest over the summer," walks off leaving Kat standing there. Version 2: Jones says to Kat, "Antimony had a fight with Rey where he accused her of killing her mother, and let her know everyone knew about it but just never bothered to tell her. Oh, and this was right after he railroaded her about copying your homework. In tears, she ran off to the forest to get verification from Coyote and in the process nearly killed Mr. Eglamore by accident* because she couldn't control her powers. When she got the forest, she found out she wasn't human, and that this had something to do with how badly she lost her temper. She needed some help learning her powers and so she decided to stay on over the summer to help avoid causing future issues. She said she sends you her love." There's all the difference in the world in presentation. * Hmmm, I'm not sure how that news would have gone over given Kat's crush on him (or even if that crush still exists).
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Post by Aricos on Mar 7, 2011 14:54:31 GMT
Maybe, just maybe, Kat's feelings are hurt because Annie decided to run into the forest instead of to her when she heard about how she killed her own mother and stuff? I know my feelings would be hurt if that were to happen since in this situation, Kat-o-vision says 'We are best friends forever!' and then Annie does this, which signals 'No, we are not best friends forever because I'd rather run to the forest instead of confiding you and sharing my thoughts with you'. Even though Kat probably can't do much for her (and she probably knows), it still hurts that Annie didn't seem to trust her enough to talk to Kat before running off. My two cents .
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Post by rainofsteel on Mar 7, 2011 15:23:18 GMT
A terrible pressure is building in your mind, a terrible anger drives it, it wants to burn, Burn, BURN!
You do not go straight to your best friend who can have no possible defense or answer in this case. Annie may not have been in a state of mind to rationally determine this. Good for Kat that she instinctively headed for Coyote, along the way directing what amounted to an uncontrollable fireblast at someone who could conveniently defend against it, instead of Kat. I don't personally wish to see Kat's last appearance be as a black spot on the ground.
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Post by heranje on Mar 7, 2011 15:33:41 GMT
Maybe, just maybe, Kat's feelings are hurt because Annie decided to run into the forest instead of to her when she heard about how she killed her own mother and stuff? Yes, that's what I thought too. Of course the way Jones presented it will have mattered... but even if Kat got the whole story, it is highly possible that she would be hurt because Annie apparently would rather confide in and be consoled by a trickster forest-god than her best friend. Regardless of whether Annie's anger would have been dangerous to Kat - I can definitely see her thinking "But we're friends. We help each other. Why wouldn't she let me help her? Maybe we're not as good friends as I thought, maybe she doesn't need me?"
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Post by legion on Mar 7, 2011 15:43:09 GMT
Man, why are people insisting on blaming either Annie or Kat? They both need a hug and a warm blanket and a cup of hot chocolate
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Post by ding on Mar 7, 2011 15:44:07 GMT
If you think THIS is awkward, just wait until Kat's summer project, AnnieBot, whirls into the room.
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Post by monte on Mar 7, 2011 16:05:19 GMT
Man annie just got done reconciling with reynard and now this...
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Post by noblemanofreason on Mar 7, 2011 16:07:28 GMT
Man, why are people insisting on blaming either Annie or Kat? They both need a hug and a warm blanket and a cup of hot chocolate Agreed legion. What Annie did was not right, although somewhat understandable. However, two wrongs don't make a right, and Kat acting like this is only going to make things worse, and if you think about it, little different from what Annie did to her.
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Post by elppa284 on Mar 7, 2011 16:11:27 GMT
I'm glad Kat still called Annie Annie and not Antimony-that would have been heartwrenching D':
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Post by Kuraimizu on Mar 7, 2011 16:16:14 GMT
Notice that Kat mentions Reynard as an afterthought. This Hints that Kat is more Angry at Reynard. Reynard did mention he took the notebook back. he did not mention if he put it back where it was found, or if he returned it to Kat, or if Kat caught him returning the notebook.
if Kat was then told the whole story by as then currently known by Reynard, She might have been mad that Annie was Cheating, and saddened that She didn't ask to borrow the notebook. She would have been angry that Reynard had a Fight with Annie, And Furious that Reynard had told Annie that Annie had killed her own Mother, More So that he hadn't explained Annie's and Surma's Background first.
And then to hear from Miss Jones that Annie was staying in the Forest for the summer, Kat would have Been Saddened that Annie had dropped their plans to see Scotland together. And Mad at Annie, for hearing it second hand from Jones. and it being a snap decision on Annie's part.
Over the Summer in Scotland Kat would have time to go from Sad and Mad, to Brooding and Lonely. Annie had Abandoned her best friend after all. And as Third wheel to the lovebirds that are Kat's parents, Kat would have had plenty of time to go over every possible question and Answer in her head. "Why didn't Annie run to cry on my Shoulder?" "Why did Annie Run to the Forest?" "Am I not a good enough friend?" "But Annie tells me Everything! Does she not like me any more?"
Kat might also be testing Annie right now. Playing the cold shoulder to see if Annie will actually apologize to her. Right Now Kat's feelings are Hurt because Annie just ran off without thinking of her best friend at all. Angry because Reynard allowed the fight to get so out of hand. Acting Cold so that Annie doesn't see how hurt Kat's feelings really are.
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Post by atteSmythe on Mar 7, 2011 16:25:41 GMT
Anyone else slightly disappointed that the dorms are not accessed by submarine? and yes i am, but an elevator is just so much more cost-effective Maybe it's just a lift to the submarine docks! Plotwise, we just had a chapter of shouting, so I'd be surprised if this one also goes that way. I expect Kat to just shut her dorm room door. Annie would be well to seek out Kat's parents at that point, though I wonder if she would. Are we sure this isn't actually Kat's new robot? Next page Kat walks in, "Oh hey Annie, how do you like my new robot? I haven't installed its emotion chip yet because I want to make sure it won't flip out and kill everyone." Ah, never mind what I said above. This is obviously how the chapter will play out.
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Post by fronzel on Mar 7, 2011 16:29:00 GMT
Yeah! Stuff it, Annnie!
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Post by zaorish on Mar 7, 2011 16:29:22 GMT
I agree with everyone here...this is some good drama I especially like this plot development because it does not have to do with things that the readers don't know about (like the Jones explanation fiasco [Grr Tom ], it's just...classic drama. Good stuff Some notes: -Kat is wearing tight, form-fitting jeans for the first time. In the past she always wore boxy or loose boypants. This may be another signal that she intends to build new relationships (zomg new boyfriend??!!) away from Annie. (I say this as an Annie-x-Kat person, too--the new coldness could wrap around to that later, you never know). -All that said, remember the treatise. Kat and Annie were still together in the foreground, and with Annie's hair wrapped around Kat. They may have a temporary parting, or maybe a permanent cooling, but they will not separate fully, for they both represent the archetypes of magic and technology, Annie a creature from the plane of fire, and Kat who refuses to accept any machine built with the help of magic. Their relationship is central to the story and it will not end permanently. -Yes, I am disappointed that Kat did not arrive in the dorms in a miniature submarine that rose up out of the "swimming pool" thing. That would have been super cool
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Post by nikita on Mar 7, 2011 16:36:39 GMT
Maybe Kat did hear about the fight and now is baffled to see Annie and Rey together in total harmony.
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Post by iamnotarobot on Mar 7, 2011 16:37:43 GMT
Annie's new look, meet Kat's new look. Tom, your symbolism is not lost on us: Annie has become a complete forest child, while Kat starts wearing a no-muss haircut and t-shirts with robots on them. Annie and Kat are obviously becoming very different people than the ones they were when they first met; the next step is to see whether they can re-define their friendship and continue to have a relationship at all.
We never saw Kat's reaction when Annie first went off to the forest, but judging from the look on her face, Kat's done wasting her tears on Annie (at least for now).
One thing that confuses me about this page is the fact that Kat seems so angry/cold shoulderish. It seems like their relationship has survived many tests, so it's weird that Kat is reacting now. As other people have speculated, did Kat learn something important? Or has she been harboring resentment all this time and is done with Annie?
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Post by hanneswall on Mar 7, 2011 16:40:59 GMT
"Notice that Kat mentions Reynard as an afterthought."
Couldn't that just be because her and Rey never were as close? Alternatively because it was Annie who actually greeted her while Rey didn't say anything.
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Post by vollie on Mar 7, 2011 16:44:12 GMT
All that said, remember the treatise. Kat and Annie were still together in the foreground, and with Annie's hair wrapped around Kat. They may have a temporary parting, or maybe a permanent cooling, but they will not separate fully, for they both represent the archetypes of magic and technology, Annie a creature from the plane of fire, and Kat who refuses to accept any machine built with the help of magic. Their relationship is central to the story and it will not end permanently. Agreeing with this, but also adding: in said treatise, Annie was connected to Kat via her hair, but Kat wasn't connecting anything to Annie. And I think this page shows why. (Tom is brilliant)
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Post by atteSmythe on Mar 7, 2011 16:49:44 GMT
Agreeing with this, but also adding: in said treatise, Annie was connected to Kat via her hair, but Kat wasn't connecting anything to Annie. And I think this page shows why. (Tom is brilliant) The sword and arrow separate them, and they have their backs to each other...we may well be in this for a long haul. ...or I'm reading too much into a pretty picture. Either way!
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Post by Refugee on Mar 7, 2011 17:22:42 GMT
well by all means, POPCORN FOR EVERYONE!!1 *fires up the industrial-size megapopcorn makers* LASER megapopcorn makers. [Yes, the physics of this scene are highly problematic, starting with the use of shiny crinkled aluminum foil as a radiant heat exchanger. Blow me.] I have not noticed Tom's tendency to dwell on angst for the sake of angst. It's crucial, though, that Annie take a deep and abiding interest in Kat's summer. From Kat's standpoint, Annie's gift is boasting: "Look! I made boots!" === "I couldn't sleep, so I decided to sand the floors!" — my favorite line of all time anywhere.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 7, 2011 17:29:52 GMT
Boots: Interesting choice of gift considering that Antimony is unshod. Self-imposed penance?
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Post by smjjames on Mar 7, 2011 17:34:54 GMT
You know, theres something else that nobody has really mentioned yet. Take a look at how Annies hair is almost always moving around when before, it was more or less static. It did move some before, but not to the extent of it moving around almost every frame in the three pages she has shown up in this chapter so far.
Considering their age of around 13/14, I think we are seeing the character development of BOTH Kat and Annie. The change in hairstyle partially reflects that. When Kat went on vacation last time, her hairstyle didn't change (although it was a little longer), so this is Tom telling us that they are starting a new phase in character development for them and we're along for the ride.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 7, 2011 17:37:22 GMT
ah snap she is not a happy camper : / But not a silly cow either. And they are still connected. Not right away, but they will have a party soon enough. awwww yeeaahh. Now we're talkin'. *gets popcorn* *jumps in front* I wish she had made me those boots. I'm hoping this doesn't set up for another big "I know how to hurt your feelings" fight... I want the indifference to go on for a while, get to know Kat better. Why it would be? Kat didn't step on Annie's sore toe.... Another thought: Y'know, from Kat's viewpoint, Annie might as well be channeling her dad at this point, insofar as the wandering-off-with-no-notice thing is concerned. Could almost be viewed as a bit of hypocrisy on Annie's part, knowing what that sort of behavior does to people and then doing it anyway? ...Though it's still possible and if she did, we'd know whether Annie really became more mature. The best result would be explaining the reasons and (briefly) events, of course. This may or may not make things better, but have a fair chance to simply shake Kat out of her mood. there characters almost seem reversed. Because they really missed each other? I mean, if Surma and Anja were still as close is it is portrayed they were during their school days, wouldnt Anja want to come see her friend before she died Except (as Max noted) the break up was so wide no one knew - already noticed, but the firestorm which was bound to happen over that possession incident is a very likely reason, methinks. I just want to know now exactly how much of A&R's fight does Kat know about. Up to 'she never loved you'? Up to 'you killed your mom'? Or just 'we had a bad fight and she ran away into the forest'? Exactly. Jones wove something plausible for others, and James most likely didn't tell Kat or anyone about firewall, though reserved a few very special words for Annie. I think I'll just go ahead and wildspec right now a break between the two that lasts until Annie has to get Kat out of a jam somehow using her Mighty & Fabled Brand New Etheric Firespike Powers(tm) Only two objections: first, it would be too expected in zero-sum pseudo fairy tale and therefore is improbable in GKC. Second, Annie was there not to grow her powers, but to grow up to powers she already has. Hm... I think that's Court's influence on Kat. Paz made her gloomy? Maybe Kat is not sure if she can trust Annie now. It wasn't just a summer vacation in a forest, it was summer vacation in Gillitie Wood which is Court's adversary. You know, in Soviet Union they considered almost any person who had travelled abroad to be a potential traitor during the cold war. At least as far as proper ComSoMol is considered. <snicker> ;D Kat, it seems, is " just a little bit" too disillusioned with the Court to even think about that. Also, Jones was asked to report what happened to Kat, but who knows if she did or what she actually said or how it was taken. This isn't what she said. In fact, she mentioned anything but this. Man, why are people insisting on blaming either Annie or Kat? Didn't you get accustomed to this? It happens every time the current comic contains any tension at all.
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