allec
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Post by allec on Nov 25, 2010 15:44:15 GMT
I just remembered, didn't Tom say in his Twitter that Eglamore will appear in this chapter?
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Post by TBeholder on Nov 25, 2010 16:02:07 GMT
Though this seems less like smug casually and more like smug super-villainy. I mean its one thing if you are caught up in the heat of the moment, but another thing if you are in control It's evil and insane to not be hysterical! ...and who's this Kafka guy? do you really think the Court would just tell her a big secret like that and then expect her to keep it? The Court is a hive-mind again? Also, didn't Kat say she was coming back soon? I expect something to go (more horribly) wrong in the next few pages, with the homework book still being on the desk and all. Now here's a good point! Or maybe even worse: Kat heard the final notes of this swan song. And didn't storm in yet only because she needs to restore her articulate speech capability first, and that's not easy. My use of the word "normal" does not mean "normal for our world", because denizens of our world have never had to walk with ghosts, cast fire spells or guide our mothers to the afterlife, and thus we have no standard to hold her actions up to. (misquoting Max Frei): do you personally know all denizens of your world? in order to regain her dominance in an argument. Wait, what? Argument? One of these things is not like the other. ...and it's every one. Right. A few weeks ago, I speculated that Surma's participating in a deception ploy for the Court was a sign of "You can't sleep with the dogs without catching fleas". I wonder if Annie's behavior here is another such case. She caught what when they were visiting Paz? That seems to be a matter of interpretation. It doesn't sound aggressive to me. You two don't use the same voice in screen readers. The mystery is solved!(c) until her sad façade of calm crumbled away in today's update. Annie may have been driven to the edge by Renard, but she threw herself over it of her own volition. She is relying on base, animalistic rage just to make herself feel better (and in doing so she becomes sadistic) rather than using her higher thought processes. Logic and rationality have taken a backseat to destructive and foolish emotion. (snickering) So... shall we call it "logic and rationality" or "sad façade of calm"? He's called Zimmy a demon, and acts as if he's scared of her. Does that mean she truly is a demon, or that he just considers her one? That she creeps the lockpicks out of him and "demon" is an invective. That cannot be correct because Renard would still say Surma loved him (as he knows it, remember). Or he realizes he's been fooling himself and can no longer deny it. Or the opposite: he cannot fool himself and realizes it. Even while it's still based only on his knowledge. In what we saw, Surma didn't trick the trickster, only teased him a bit and didn't stop from deluding himself. If while addressing Annie Renard can't lie to himself just like he can't lie to her directly, this wishful thinking should fail. Maybe he didn't say it, not because he couldn't lie, but because he didn't want to accept it. That is, he's too afraid of the answer to try? Everyone describes him as cold and emotionless, but, honestly, haven't some of the same labels been applied to Annie as well? Where "everyone" were two rivals and Jones who admitted it was unsubtle trolling? Please. ;D I just wanted to add: isn't it amazing how Tom manages to play ping-pong with the readers' opinions? To me, it's amusing. People ate a trawlerful of red herring and still flamewar in all seriousness. How it's possible to take this seriously in turn? The comics are fun without running back and forth. A little emotional rollercoaster is refreshing. And it's more interesting when you know anything can be twisted around on the next page, of course. Ah but there's still the deadly, "She loved you and YOU BLEW IT!" attack! /shudder "...because you're a jealous jerkass!" - in line with their previous "argument" (thanks, aviyara). Which is why the chance that any discussion of them ol' good days between James and Antimony can end well is too slim to try. For example, using your term "Stone Cold Bastard", could be used among men to denote a sort of appreciation of ruthlessness and general badassness. Der Kestle? Iz eet hyu?! ;D (sorry, couldn't miss an opportunity) how the situation changes if you stop thinking about her doing this for the satisfaction of it and start treating it like a poorly planned intervention that's been warped by pent up pain, anger, and more than a little schadenfreude. Uh... it's not the same? If we take a look at Annie's face in the last panel, there's no trace of "sadism" or similar nonsense; that's the look of someone fed up with another person's crap and demanding that they face the facts. Or she realized how hard her last kick bites her own butt. Or she finally falls out of rage into "can be eaten with a spoon" stages. Because after such fireworks eiether apathy or hangover is likely to catch up with her soon. Or she may run away screaming and then collapse. In the first case Annie may even be very reasonable if she will react on anything at all - she's exhausted emotionally much more than mentally. We'll see which if Kat enters with a angry face and big spoon in hands. Either way it's hard to imagine her being able to do or even copy that homework when it's time to curl into fetal position for several hours.
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Post by phyzome on Nov 25, 2010 17:30:22 GMT
Man, Kat wouldn't stand for this. Here's how the conversation would go. "You can only speak the truth when you talk to me, right? And now you KNOW the truth, so let me hear you say it!" "STOP!" "What? This is serious business, Kat." "Renardine, repeat after me. P Equals NP" (I immediately had the same thought.)
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Post by cannedbreadmaker on Nov 25, 2010 18:46:45 GMT
Yeah Annie! You put that serial killer in his place!!
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Post by nekromans on Dec 4, 2010 14:32:41 GMT
Yeah Annie! You put that serial killer in his place!! Killing one person out of (presumably) passion does not make you a serial killer. The term refers to killing several people, or intending to kill several people, with a pattern behind the deaths.
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Post by warrl on Dec 4, 2010 21:23:13 GMT
Has anyone else noticed that Annie said Renard could only tell the truth to her, and he just finished informing her of Anthony's failures? So maybe Anthony really is a terrible person. After all he really hasn't shown a single redeeming feature. A "tell the truth" compulsion can never really be about what is absolutely true. If you were under one this very second, you still could not tell me how many rocks are visible under the chair I'm sitting in. The compulsion must instead be to tell the truth as the person knows it. So Reynardine really has a bad opinion of Anthony. He isn't lying about that. Whether his opinion is really a fair commentary on Anthony is not known. (We can speculate that, since they were romantic rivals, it probably isn't...) By the way, Annie's actions here are extremely normal... but don't construe that as meaning acceptable, or mature, or anything else that hints of approval. Being unnecessarily, even gleefully vicious... not letting her target escape the scene... all pretty common in someone who is under a lot of stress from several different directions and suddenly snaps and unloads it all in fury at whomever happens to be at hand when the total becomes a tiny bit too much. (Note that this person, almost always and almost by definition, doesn't deserve MOST of what is unloaded on them, and occasionally deserves none of it.)
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