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Post by jda on Nov 27, 2020 2:39:06 GMT
Cool thing I found out there and I didn't know where to put it. The cut on the cheek made me wonder how grown Annie would look IRL.
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Post by Corvo on Nov 27, 2020 3:18:17 GMT
Cool thing I found out there and I didn't know where to put it. The cut on the cheek made me wonder how grown Annie would look IRL. Maybe here? Not sure either. Cool coincidence though!
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Post by philman on Nov 27, 2020 8:43:59 GMT
Huh, wies linked back to the Tony + Surma chapter earlier in today's page comment thread, and naturally I read on a bit, however when I got to this page I had a thought. Tony can only be himself when he is around less than 2 people. Is the reason why he is still so cold with Court Annie because he sees her as 2 people, Annie and Surma, whereas with forest Annie he only sees her as a single person?
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Post by blahzor on Nov 27, 2020 13:17:11 GMT
Huh, wies linked back to the Tony + Surma chapter earlier in today's page comment thread, and naturally I read on a bit, however when I got to this page I had a thought. Tony can only be himself when he is around less than 2 people. Is the reason why he is still so cold with Court Annie because he sees her as 2 people, Annie and Surma, whereas with forest Annie he only sees her as a single person? she's actually 3 people, the forest, the court and the holy Kat
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Post by wies on Nov 29, 2020 7:30:50 GMT
And she is zimmy too of course!
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Post by blahzor on Nov 30, 2020 1:31:02 GMT
And she is zimmy too of course! No Kat is Anti-Zimmy
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Post by blahzor on Nov 30, 2020 11:15:37 GMT
Annie's entire existence is because of the Omega device Which also lead to Kat becoming a god (earlier than she would?) in pursuit to save Annie
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Post by aquamafia on Nov 30, 2020 11:47:40 GMT
www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1066When Coyote says that Annie can start with a story about his incredible strength, the panel clearly focuses on the red pattern on Coyote's back. As we learn in the extra comic and Ysengrin apocalypse, that pattern represents his strength. Earliest foreshadowing of it too. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1755Goddess/Angel Kat's text bubbles look like they're multiple text bubbles overlain with each other. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=116We've seen something similar with Robot while possessed by a shadow man, but the text bubbles are clearly different since one belongs to a robot and another the shadow. They're different shapes and colors. Kat's bubbles look like the same size and color (albeit faded.) Maybe part of Kat's goddess status is fueled by her time traveling shenanigans? She's in the ether in the place that caused her time travel in the first place, the river. Maybe all the Kats of different timelines connect together in the ether, and that's what makes her etheric form so godlike.
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Post by wies on Nov 30, 2020 12:30:19 GMT
www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1066When Coyote says that Annie can start with a story about his incredible strength, the panel clearly focuses on the red pattern on Coyote's back. As we learn in the extra comic and Ysengrin apocalypse, that pattern represents his strength. Earliest foreshadowing of it too. Good catch!
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 30, 2020 15:35:41 GMT
Annie's entire existence is because of the Omega device Which also lead to Kat becoming a god (earlier than she would?) in pursuit to save Annie I think that belongs in the wildspec thread.
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Post by pyradonis on Nov 30, 2020 15:37:05 GMT
www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1066When Coyote says that Annie can start with a story about his incredible strength, the panel clearly focuses on the red pattern on Coyote's back. As we learn in the extra comic and Ysengrin apocalypse, that pattern represents his strength. Earliest foreshadowing of it too. You're right, he even seems to look at it!
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Post by mturtle7 on Nov 30, 2020 21:10:46 GMT
Huh, wies linked back to the Tony + Surma chapter earlier in today's page comment thread, and naturally I read on a bit, however when I got to this page I had a thought. Tony can only be himself when he is around less than 2 people. Is the reason why he is still so cold with Court Annie because he sees her as 2 people, Annie and Surma, whereas with forest Annie he only sees her as a single person? she's actually 3 people, the forest, the court and the holy Kat I can't believe nobody has pointed out yet the obvious fact that she is also Coyote
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Post by blahzor on Dec 1, 2020 0:13:20 GMT
Annie's entire existence is because of the Omega device Which also lead to Kat becoming a god (earlier than she would?) in pursuit to save Annie I think that belongs in the wildspec thread. it's not wild spec it's what actually happened. her parents got together b/c of a Omega device experiment in the jungle, and since she existed Kat manipulated time to save her at the bridge in this universe at least
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Post by wies on Dec 1, 2020 9:11:22 GMT
she's actually 3 people, the forest, the court and the holy Kat I can't believe nobody has pointed out yet the obvious fact that she is also CoyoteThese two have never been seen together. Coïncidence?!
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Post by echo on Dec 1, 2020 13:49:50 GMT
Well in this series that doesn't seem to matter. Too many mystery boxes and plot devices. Maybe the Omega Device is a device that actively subverts readers expectations out of pure spite?
EDIT: Like, one thing that comes to mind is sometimes text bubbles of a color will apply to a character they sometimes don't. So we've got visuals, fonts, speech bubbles, god forbid Tom does some HTML cookie stuff too to change the comic based on what browser you use to read it. Hence, we see the argument for order, in that if you can't keep up with all this nonsense, you can't understand it. You could just take characters at their word, but that's a problem too since the characters are super smart and so they could be completely honest and you could still not get it. But the visuals of this comic constantly call things into doubt.
That's a major issue with the scientific community and the public. Knowledge is power, so those lacking knowledge seek power. But as this comic implies, the very seeking of knowledge puts you on a path which achieves an end. To you, your whole life is stretched in front of you, but to economists, statisticians, and scientists, everything about you is settled.
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Post by wies on Dec 1, 2020 16:40:55 GMT
Well in this series that doesn't seem to matter. Too many mystery boxes and plot devices. Maybe the Omega Device is a device that actively subverts readers expectations out of pure spite? EDIT: Like, one thing that comes to mind is sometimes text bubbles of a color will apply to a character they sometimes don't. So we've got visuals, fonts, speech bubbles, god forbid Tom does some HTML cookie stuff too to change the comic based on what browser you use to read it. Hence, we see the argument for order, in that if you can't keep up with all this nonsense, you can't understand it. You could just take characters at their word, but that's a problem too since the characters are super smart and so they could be completely honest and you could still not get it. But the visuals of this comic constantly call things into doubt. That's a major issue with the scientific community and the public. Knowledge is power, so those lacking knowledge seek power. But as this comic implies, the very seeking of knowledge puts you on a path which achieves an end. To you, your whole life is stretched in front of you, but to economists, statisticians, and scientists, everything about you is settled. I don't understand how all these things you are mentioning relate to each other. Can you give an example of how the comic' visuals constantly call things into doubt so I understand better what you mean with that? And can you be more detailed in what exactly the major issue with the scientific community is?
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Post by echo on Dec 1, 2020 18:43:39 GMT
Well in this series that doesn't seem to matter. Too many mystery boxes and plot devices. Maybe the Omega Device is a device that actively subverts readers expectations out of pure spite? EDIT: Like, one thing that comes to mind is sometimes text bubbles of a color will apply to a character they sometimes don't. So we've got visuals, fonts, speech bubbles, god forbid Tom does some HTML cookie stuff too to change the comic based on what browser you use to read it. Hence, we see the argument for order, in that if you can't keep up with all this nonsense, you can't understand it. You could just take characters at their word, but that's a problem too since the characters are super smart and so they could be completely honest and you could still not get it. But the visuals of this comic constantly call things into doubt. That's a major issue with the scientific community and the public. Knowledge is power, so those lacking knowledge seek power. But as this comic implies, the very seeking of knowledge puts you on a path which achieves an end. To you, your whole life is stretched in front of you, but to economists, statisticians, and scientists, everything about you is settled. I don't understand how all these things you are mentioning relate to each other. Can you give an example of how the comic' visuals constantly call things into doubt so I understand better what you mean with that? And can you be more detailed in what exactly the major issue with the scientific community is? Brevity is not my forte, and clear cut answers aren't either. I apologize for that. The Realm of the Dead Chapter is sort of the most blunt chapter of calling into question a potential issue, I'd say. The various mismatches and Annie and Kat claiming to see different things. For another example, I think Ayilu is said to have illusion powers. As for mistrust in the scientific community, if you have a hard time understanding them, if you've had bad prior experience with them, and they act in a way that sets off red flags, you will mistrust them. You might not be knowing what you are getting yourself into, or if their advice is good, bad, or even relevant.
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Post by maxptc on Dec 2, 2020 2:16:26 GMT
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Post by wies on Dec 2, 2020 6:26:34 GMT
I don't understand how all these things you are mentioning relate to each other. Can you give an example of how the comic' visuals constantly call things into doubt so I understand better what you mean with that? And can you be more detailed in what exactly the major issue with the scientific community is? Brevity is not my forte, and clear cut answers aren't either. I apologize for that. The Realm of the Dead Chapter is sort of the most blunt chapter of calling into question a potential issue, I'd say. The various mismatches and Annie and Kat claiming to see different things. For another example, I think Ayilu is said to have illusion powers. As for mistrust in the scientific community, if you have a hard time understanding them, if you've had bad prior experience with them, and they act in a way that sets off red flags, you will mistrust them. You might not be knowing what you are getting yourself into, or if their advice is good, bad, or even relevant. Ah, yes, that is true. ROTD fits well in the comic's motif of multiple perspectives.
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Post by pyradonis on Dec 3, 2020 12:10:11 GMT
We saw the other side of the Tic-toc here.
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Post by maxptc on Dec 3, 2020 19:03:15 GMT
We saw the other side of the Tic-toc here. Oh duh
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Post by Gemminie on Dec 4, 2020 20:00:02 GMT
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Post by wies on Dec 4, 2020 20:03:27 GMT
You can't always run away from what scares ya, right? But at least you can toss it away afterwards, apparently. Wondering right now if that is foreshadowing for something Zimmy has been on the run from that is catching up with her. I don't need to know how or why she came to live on the streets, but I wouldn't be suprised if we learned more about that.
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Post by bedinsis on Dec 4, 2020 23:26:39 GMT
Not the most cool thing but I only noticed today: In the chapter Power Station you can see that Annie's eye shadow was running down her cheeks, on most pages. This lead to another discovery: Jack, for who it was eventually established that he was trapped in Zimmingham, was wet. I suspect the people connected to the rain when Zimmy zapped away to Zimmingham joined her there.
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Post by Corvo on Dec 5, 2020 0:48:16 GMT
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Post by Corvo on Dec 5, 2020 7:52:34 GMT
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Post by Runningflame on Dec 5, 2020 14:36:51 GMT
"Her father's influence, perhaps?" Which brings me to an interesting thing I noticed. The first time we see Annie's parents is in that school picture from when they were younger. They are the only two in the picture who aren't smiling at all. I suspect this is to heighten their resemblance to Annie, who was very stoic at the time. Kat immediately picks out Annie's mum because they look so much alike. Fast forward to chapter 22, where we see the photo being taken. It turns out Surma wasn't a stoic, unsmiling person at all--only Tony was that way. This is a bit of a retcon, I think; we've had more character development for Surma between the two chapters, notably in A Ghost Story. So to explain why she's not her usual smiling self in the photo, Tom has her quip about how photos bring out her serious face.
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Post by blahzor on Dec 8, 2020 16:11:08 GMT
considering the chapter and how it ended the chapter icon is from this page www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2384 which i'm taking to mean the most important takeaway and page is this
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Post by foxurus on Dec 9, 2020 9:06:45 GMT
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Post by blahzor on Dec 9, 2020 13:57:18 GMT
think that's more she doesn't understand how they do the stuff as she can't control what she does
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