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Post by Casey on Sept 17, 2009 13:02:33 GMT
Methinks an angry child will lash out with whichever hand is closest to the object of their ire.
But yes... way overthinking things. As cool as the original intent of this thread is, it appears to be one of the most difficult to keep on topic.
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Sept 17, 2009 15:12:42 GMT
It's in the nature of the thread, I guess, given its point of collecting separate trivia from the entire run of the comics.
But unlike the Reynardine discussion, that deserved a multi-page thread of its own, I very much doubt people will use pages upon pages debating the handed-ness of Janet. There's just not that much to discuss there.
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Post by judgedeadd on Sept 17, 2009 16:22:39 GMT
[176]: There's an Enigmaron (okay, a small part of it) peeking in on the 4th panel.
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Post by nikita on Sept 17, 2009 16:34:29 GMT
So that Enigmaron kidnapped Kat? I never noticed that!
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Post by judgedeadd on Sept 17, 2009 16:44:05 GMT
And there's another one in that panel, behind the rock.
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Post by Mishmash on Sept 17, 2009 17:04:34 GMT
I didn't notice either of those two enigmarons, but now they have been pointed out they seem fairly obvious! Nice call.
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Post by Casey on Sept 17, 2009 19:10:12 GMT
Ditto for me what Mishmash said. Very good call. Never saw either one.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Sept 17, 2009 23:19:41 GMT
I'd seen the one in the distance before, but somehow the one in the foreground escaped my attention until now. Cool.
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Post by aeolus on Sept 19, 2009 9:50:51 GMT
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, so a thousand apologies on the lotus feet etc. etc. if I'm stepping on someone's toes, but Reynard has the light-swirlies in panel two of [596] that have been associated with Zimmy and psychopomps before. |
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 19, 2009 16:16:17 GMT
I'd say his 'aura' or whatever it is looks more like Muut's than Zimmy and Ketrak's, but it's still a nice catch. *round of applause*
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Post by Jiminiminy on Sept 19, 2009 16:21:54 GMT
I must agree, I don't think I would ever have noticed that on my own, which is funny considering it's not hidden or anything. -Claps approvingly-
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Post by warrl on Sept 19, 2009 22:40:43 GMT
If you play a flute like that, I believe you'd be right handed, although in my experience brass and woodwind instruments don't really regard dominant hands. I'm not 100% sure, but I've seen more flutists holding it that way than the other, so I assume it's right-handed. Most brass instruments are three-valve and thus single-handed in terms of controlling the music. Controlling the mass of the instrument itself is a different matter, so the larger ones will be designed in such a way that the three valves are only an easy reach for one hand. Most woodwinds (including the saxophone even though it's usually made of brass) simply cannot be controlled - musically - one-handed. About the simplest is the bagpipe, which has eight or nine holes to be variously covered or uncovered, most of them in one row that is too long for ANYONE's reach. A clarinet, let's see if I can remember (it's been many years...) I think each hand controls at least eight holes, some by way of levers (some levers open holes normally closed, while other levers close holes normally open) and others directly. A flute is similar. You pretty much have to be at least somewhat ambidextrous to do something like that, so there's no particular reason why your dominant hand would have to be in a particular section. That said, there are reasons why it's convenient for *all* the flautists to have their flutes and arms jutting out in the same direction. And with all those levers and stuff on the more complex instruments, it'd be extremely awkward to pick up a "left-handed" instrument and play it "right-handed" or vice versa - plus, simply for standardization of parts, it's easier and less expensive for all instruments of a given type to have the same handedness. In summary: Janet's playing of the flute shows the handedness of the *flute*, not of Janet. Oh, and there's a long-standing tradition in comics of switching handedness for the sake of drawing layout. I see no reason why this wouldn't extend to flutes. |
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Post by Casey on Sept 20, 2009 1:22:28 GMT
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Post by Jiminiminy on Sept 20, 2009 3:49:28 GMT
Isn't archery something with the dominant eye, rather than the dominant hand? Might not though, I don't have the best memory with things I've never really done. Anyhow... [470] Seems like Jack was standing around just as dumbfounded as everyone else. Never saw him on the edge there. |
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Post by thor on Sept 20, 2009 8:26:34 GMT
[471] I never noticed the hyperlink in Tom's comment until this time. 
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 20, 2009 9:51:01 GMT
Isn't archery something with the dominant eye, rather than the dominant hand? Might not though, I don't have the best memory with things I've never really done. Anyhow... It is. It's fairly unusual though, at least in my experience, for someone to have a dominant eye different to their dominant hand. So there's a possibility Janet is left-handed, but she's probably not. The fact is that in the panel where we're close enought to see, neither Janet or Winsbury have either eye closed, so either they're both so good they don't have to close an eye or they don't close an eye until the next panel when we're too far away to see. I would also like to point out that while they both have long sleeves on Winsbury has opted to not have an arm-guard. I'm not sure why Janet did, because all she's done is bunch up her jumper sleeve making it more likely for the string to catch. I guess I'm one of the raging archery nerds Tom mentioned, although I'm not much of a nerd, I just like archery. I don't rage much either. |
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Post by Jiminiminy on Sept 20, 2009 14:07:14 GMT
-Shrugs- Maybe she's just Ambidextrous. I am, there's some things I'm left handed at, some I'm right handed at, and a lot I can just use either hand for.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 20, 2009 17:42:03 GMT
Scooting back to the issue of 'auras'/swirlies, while doing research for a cunningly conceived post for the "Elsie (L.C.)" thread (which I now can't make because it's been locked) I was on page 187 and noticed Zimmy's in panel 2. Not only is it jaggedy and angry looking, just as Zimmy is angry there, but it also curls down and along behind both Zimmy and Gamma. It looks, in fact, like what we have seen so far of Ketrak. I don't just mean that swirly bits, I mean the actual shape, the whole thing. I'll do a comparison picture and update this post. |
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Post by Jiminiminy on Sept 20, 2009 18:42:28 GMT
It was locked? Can't say I'm surprised.
Considering the 'aura' has come up more than just a few times, perhaps there are other telling factors to consider. For instance, the colour seems to reflect the person in question, though I am not sure to what extent. I'd like to say more, but typing on an iPhone is somewhat tireing after a few minutes. If you post your aforementioned post here, I'm sure that it'd be just as good as if you'd gone with your previous intent.
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Post by wynne on Sept 20, 2009 19:06:12 GMT
545Surma calls Anja "Anny" years before Kat calls Antimony "Annie"
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Sept 20, 2009 20:26:27 GMT
Guys, don't be scared to make new threads. Why post a whole analysis here, when you can make a new thread with actual room to discuss it?
The existence of swirly things has already been noted. Anything more detailed I'd love to read, but I would also love to DISCUSS, so make a new thread about it, please. Here it will either get lost, or it will overwhelm other discussion.
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Post by cripplerking on Sept 21, 2009 1:12:30 GMT
Oooh! I just noticed something really cool. I already mentioned this in the Wild Speculation thread, so sorry if it's redundant. The man Reynardine possesses is wearing a green suit, the likes of which are commonly worn by Gunnerkrigg teachers. Here's the man: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=497And here are Donald and Eglamore in their same green suits: www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=275So he may have been a teacher. But he wasn't. He was the Court's then present medium! Something I'd never thought about before; the man Reynardine possessed is crossing the bridge over Annan waters in the picture (you can tell from the lights). There is clearly a tree on the side he's coming from, meaning he is walking from Gillitie Forest back to the Court. The man Reynardine possessed was the Court's medium before Surma! No one else would've had permission to go into the forest, and besides, how could Reynardine leave the court and possess someone undetected? His possessee had to come to him. His formal green suit, as worn by the teachers when Coyote and Yesengrin come to visit, supports this, as visiting the Wood would've been a formal occassion. |
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Post by Casey on Sept 21, 2009 4:31:42 GMT
So he may have been a teacher. But he wasn't. He was the Court's then present medium! Something I'd never thought about before; the man Reynardine possessed is crossing the bridge over Annan waters in the picture (you can tell from the lights). There is clearly a tree on the side he's coming from, meaning he is walking from Gillitie Forest back to the Court. The man Reynardine possessed was the Court's medium before Surma! No one else would've had permission to go into the forest, and besides, how could Reynardine leave the court and possess someone undetected? His possessee had to come to him. His formal green suit, as worn by the teachers when Coyote and Yesengrin come to visit, supports this, as visiting the Wood would've been a formal occassion. Holy crap, how could I have missed that?!? That's more than a cool thing noticed on reread... that's, like, seriously plot-related. Fantastic catch! |
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Post by judgedeadd on Sept 21, 2009 7:58:40 GMT
[194]: When Annie touches Zimmy in the first panel, she 'dispels' Z's old, bluish clothes and brings back the white shirt of today in the spot where she touches. Much like in Chapter 16, where Annie brought back reality by touch.
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Post by jon77 on Sept 21, 2009 10:14:27 GMT
[194]: When Annie touches Zimmy in the first panel, she 'dispels' Z's old, bluish clothes and brings back the white shirt of today in the spot where she touches. Much like in Chapter 16, where Annie brought back reality by touch. Another good catch! I had re-read this chapter 3-4 times, thanks to this thread, and still hadn't noticed that transition. |
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Post by Quotidian on Sept 22, 2009 4:12:05 GMT
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Post by cripplerking on Sept 22, 2009 13:13:54 GMT
Maybe they're in a history class and it's a historical poster for the Court? Perhaps they did used to be at war with Gillite, considering it looks a little like trees on the poster. I'd say it was just a WWII poster (they're all over history classes at my school), but Britian didn't sell war bonds in WWII- it was an American / Canadian thing.
Or maybe it's a really old poster of the war from which the Court founders were fleeing.
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Post by Rasselas on Sept 22, 2009 13:47:57 GMT
I don't know how much sense it makes to buy war bonds for a war between Gillitie and the Court, so that might be something historical from the outside world, perhaps the one that the founders fled. On the other hand, we've seen war horses in the comic, which were presumably used in the war, and Ysengrim is a general.
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Post by cleargreenfire on Sept 23, 2009 4:16:37 GMT
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Post by jon77 on Sept 23, 2009 6:41:24 GMT
Wow, another great catch. I can't count how many times I completely missed that. EDIT: Also here in panel 1, 3 white curly lines connecting them. It's harder to see because they're on a light orange background. I've just re-read the chapter and I think these are consistently portrayed each time Zimmy and Gamma communicate telepathically. |
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