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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 23, 2013 6:45:25 GMT
pluck that sad, tuneless string in my heart. I've always wondered how to put that feeling into words. Thanks. |
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Post by tesla on Feb 23, 2013 9:11:21 GMT
He can't anymore, he gave that power away to Renard. (It's late, so I can't be bothered to go find the quote from Tom that says that. Similarly, Coyote hasn't had the ability to control trees since he gave that one to Ysengrin.) Hrm, good to know. That paints his actions a little more differently, as Coyote seemed to know exactly what was going to happen. Something else I didn't notice: The cover of Chapter 20 has the symbol for Annie and Mr. Eglamore on the two bottom people, as seen on his armor.EDIT: It also has the count of the number of swords he has on him, including the glowing one. |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 23, 2013 16:08:05 GMT
That one happens to be lead, if you were curious. |
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Post by Eversist on Feb 24, 2013 7:24:18 GMT
Every time I come across these, they simultaneously blow my mind and pluck that sad, tuneless string in my heart. I wonder about this, since he put them together in the comic later on. -- I've always kinda wondered... why does communicating and interacting with Annie and her mum not count as "interfering in the mortal realm." Has this been answered? |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 24, 2013 7:40:29 GMT
I've always kinda wondered... why does communicating and interacting with Annie and her mum not count as "interfering in the mortal realm." Has this been answered? I assume you're talking about the guides. And I think that it lies in sort of a grey area... Sure, they're interacting with mortals, but as long as they don't take it too far they won't be disciplined for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 8:50:46 GMT
Annie and Surma are also pretty special because they've helped the guides out in the past.
The only other being they've been said to interact with that isn't directly related to either Annie, Surma, or the beings that they're guiding is Coyote.
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Post by King Mir on Feb 24, 2013 10:23:26 GMT
I've always kinda wondered... why does communicating and interacting with Annie and her mum not count as "interfering in the mortal realm." Has this been answered? The exact amount of interacting that qualifies as "interfering" is an open ended question, but apparently talking to mortals does not count. Mutt and Ketrak both allowed Kat to see them. They can't seem to do much else tough. |
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Post by smjjames on Feb 24, 2013 15:15:07 GMT
I've always kinda wondered... why does communicating and interacting with Annie and her mum not count as "interfering in the mortal realm." Has this been answered? The exact amount of interacting that qualifies as "interfering" is an open ended question, but apparently talking to mortals does not count. Mutt and Ketrak both allowed Kat to see them. They can't seem to do much else tough. Kat is a friend of Annie and there was nobody else in the room, so I guess that works for them. Ketrak is apparently some kind of lovecraftian horror though. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 25, 2013 6:12:28 GMT
I suspect the rules are looser around Surma and Annie because they can see the Guides. Basically, the Guides aren't allowed to initiate contact with a mortal, but they're allowed to respond when a mortal initiates.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 25, 2013 7:20:08 GMT
The only other being they've been said to interact with that isn't directly related to either Annie, Surma, or the beings that they're guiding is Coyote. There's also some unknown force/entity that's keeping them in line, and would be responsible for enforcing the "do not interfere with the mortal realm" rule. (Or so says Tom, at least.) Basically, the Guides aren't allowed to initiate contact with a mortal, but they're allowed to respond when a mortal initiates. I think that the definition of "interfere" is more along the lines of actually doing something significant. So, when Muut stops by to chat its okay, as long as after the chat the mortal's pretty much in the same spot she was before it. Offering assistance, including information, would not be okay though. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 7:39:18 GMT
There's also some unknown force/entity that's keeping them in line, and would be responsible for enforcing the "do not interfere with the mortal realm" rule. (Or so says Tom, at least.) Oh, my. I do doubt that we'll ever see or even learn anything about such a thing, but it does make one wonder - if the psychopomps aren't only bound by their honoring of "the code," are there any who have ever broken ranks and been punished... I also see I'm not alone in the late night patrol, hungrily awaiting the next page.... |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 25, 2013 7:40:46 GMT
Muut and the other Guides have answered Annie's questions plenty of times, so the ban on offering information can't be too strict.
On the other hand, it was against the rules for Muut to offer Annie the blinker stone—but not against the rules for Muut to deliver the blinker stone to Annie on Mort's behalf. Of course, Muut clearly violated the spirit of the rule by pressuring Mort into giving the stone in the first place, but we don't know yet if that's a punishable offense or an accepted loophole.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 25, 2013 7:57:44 GMT
Muut and the other Guides have answered Annie's questions plenty of times, so the ban on offering information can't be too strict. I don't think they've given her pertinent information that wasn't itself concerning things outside the mortal realm. At least not in-comic, they haven't. |
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Post by cu on Feb 26, 2013 18:06:48 GMT
#372 "Usually, individuals who can remain unbiased and objective are chosen as mediums." #1157 "Up until now, Ysengrin has been our measly medium." So, how long has chuckles been appointed as medium? Is he sort of a wartime consigliere? #1157"Jones, will you tell your student why this would not be a good idea?" #366 First thing she ever said to her, BOB: "Just be careful how you handle his advice."
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Post by krael on Feb 27, 2013 15:27:45 GMT
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Post by Nnelg on Mar 1, 2013 5:43:10 GMT
Given how Coyote has absolutely no regard for physical sanity, I wonder if he's sniffing both of them at once, not one then the other...
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Post by quoodle on Mar 1, 2013 6:17:07 GMT
Given how Coyote has absolutely no regard for physical sanity, I wonder if he's sniffing both of them at once, not one then the other... A cartoon is usually told serially through the panels, and then left-to-right/top-to-bottom (in a western culture). As such, coyote would typically be interpreted as sniffing one, then the other. But... I see nothing wrong with seeing it as one action - not at all incongruent with Coyote's nature. I like the thought - Hmm, interesting.  |
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Post by quoodle on Mar 7, 2013 15:52:40 GMT
Just noticed where Kat is thinking about connecting machinery to neurons. (Just noticed the neurons). Ooh, and the neurons are connected to muscle cell. Cool. |
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Post by Nnelg on Mar 7, 2013 22:21:42 GMT
Ooh, and the neurons are connected to muscle cell. Cool. Given that the device she is imagining disassembled (and warped into curving) is an electric motor, that might not be coincidental... |
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Post by Sivo on Mar 11, 2013 12:33:05 GMT
Is this...  somehow an homage to this...?  |
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Post by steelpanther on Mar 11, 2013 22:40:30 GMT
One of the symbol's earlier appearances gives some clues as to it's meaning, I think. |
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Post by KMar on Mar 15, 2013 2:13:17 GMT
I don't know if somebody already pointed it out in the relevant comic thread, but I didn't notice until now: The traitorous robot's head. It's (American) football shaped. |
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Post by exuberancium on Mar 15, 2013 18:30:13 GMT
I don't know if somebody already pointed it out in the relevant comic thread, but I didn't notice until now: The traitorous robot's head. It's (American) football shaped.It's a reference to his drawing style at the beginning of the comic |
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Post by KMar on Mar 15, 2013 18:39:33 GMT
I don't know if somebody already pointed it out in the relevant comic thread, but I didn't notice until now: The traitorous robot's head. It's (American) football shaped.It's a reference to his drawing style at the beginning of the comic ...yes, that's why it's a cool thing (that I only noticed on reread)? |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 15, 2013 19:28:19 GMT
It's a reference to his drawing style at the beginning of the comic ...yes, that's why it's a cool thing (that I only noticed on reread)? I've said this before, but the early heads reminded me a lot of that "Hey Arnold!" show from the 90's. It's great that Tom is willing to poke fun at his early work. |
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Post by tpman on Mar 16, 2013 3:41:37 GMT
When Anja says"information [from my magic compute] is sent to me directly" she is pointing at her head. I'm thinking the info takes a pretty direct route to Anja, also magic. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=517 |
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Post by GK Sierra on Mar 16, 2013 5:06:04 GMT
When Anja says"information [from my magic compute] is sent to me directly" she is pointing at her head. I'm thinking the info takes a pretty direct route to Anja, also magic. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=517So either she has an implanted augmentation or she is utilizing broadcast power to create a massive wireless network. Or both. Currently broadcast power is an inefficient method of energy transfer, but there is no telling what advances the Court has made in their universe. An easy way to test this theory would be to see if her powers work outside the bounds of the Court. |
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Post by Nnelg on Mar 16, 2013 5:23:35 GMT
I've always suspected that the "safe location" which Anja's "computer" was stored was her mind. It'd certainly explain why we don't see her doing stuff like this anymore. |
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Post by Nnelg on Mar 21, 2013 3:13:58 GMT
Some things: Renard supposedly speaks with a mild French accent. I guess that explains where he learned this gesture... A lot of people noticed that Ysengrin is lobotomized in Treatise 5. But if you look closely at his head in Treatise 4... |
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