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Post by GK Sierra on Feb 4, 2013 22:13:26 GMT
Thank you! I always wondered what Annie and Kat were reacting to in that last panel. I always assumed he had flipped her the bird. Hard to tell when his hand doesn't really have any fingers to speak of. |
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Post by Eversist on Feb 4, 2013 22:16:01 GMT
I always assumed he had flipped her the bird. Hard to tell when his hand doesn't really have any fingers to speak of. Tom gives him fingers when he needs them. :3 (speaking of middle fingers, fourth panel: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=329 ) |
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Post by mephysto on Feb 5, 2013 0:30:41 GMT
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Post by Bandersnatch on Feb 8, 2013 3:21:38 GMT
I'm sure this has been noted thousands of times and probably debated on when it probably doesn't have any real significance but:
I've noticed how Annie is the only human character that has a color'd iris. Everyone else seems to have black eyes (except Zimmy who has freakish red/black eyes, but I'm not entirely sure she's human).
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Wait, there's another one, the orange-hair girl who's name escapes me. Green eyes.... Janet?
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Post by Eversist on Feb 8, 2013 3:33:14 GMT
Janet, yeah. That's a neat observation.
All of the fairies have grey eyes for whatever the reason, too.
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Post by Bandersnatch on Feb 8, 2013 3:49:04 GMT
The only idea that comes to mind is that she (Janet) has some Ethereal ancestry as well, possibly from her mother's side since we've all seen her zombie father.
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Post by bedinsis on Feb 11, 2013 18:54:15 GMT
I don't know whether to put this in this thread or in the speculation thread (since my observation really is speculation, and possibly already discovered by someone else) but here goes: In this comic Jones notices that Eglamore has grown longer hair (compared to earlier), and later Parley expresses that "Eglamore is so hot.". What I think is really going on is that Parley is in love with Andrew and her finding Eglamore hot is her subconscious thinking that since Eglamore looks more like Andrew, the man she loves, she thus finds Eglamore hot. |
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Post by euendo on Feb 12, 2013 10:22:47 GMT
Woah! I never even noticed how similar Smitty and Eglamore look. Nice catch. And did you see Tom's comment at the bottom?
"Not sure who she's trying to get a reaction from here." Ha! It was Smitty. Toootally that guy. Mhm.
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Post by Toloc on Feb 19, 2013 9:53:44 GMT
On page 495 Renard take some poor sods body and then crosses the bridge. What was that guy doing over there? Who was that guy? (Was it Mort?) I kinda hope we'll be getting some details about what exactly happened that day... |
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Post by judgedeadd on Feb 19, 2013 16:00:32 GMT
Every statement Coyote makes ends in an exclamation mark (if I'm not mistaken.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 20:58:09 GMT
On page 495 Renard take some poor sods body and then crosses the bridge. What was that guy doing over there? Who was that guy? (Was it Mort?) I kinda hope we'll be getting some details about what exactly happened that day... Speaking of which, I just noticed that Coyote acknowledges the trick on that page. Every statement Coyote makes ends in an exclamation mark (if I'm not mistaken.) Apart from his questions, the page linked just above has statements ending in periods. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 19, 2013 22:33:20 GMT
On page 495 Renard take some poor sods body and then crosses the bridge. What was that guy doing over there? Who was that guy? (Was it Mort?) I kinda hope we'll be getting some details about what exactly happened that day... Tom's comment below the page, "No, you do not know who the guy is yet," tells us that the poor sod who Renard possessed is someone who hadn't been introduced prior to that page. |
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Post by keeana on Feb 20, 2013 1:02:45 GMT
Something I didn't connect earlier!
Here (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=281) Reynard implies that the glass-eyed-man that possessed Robot on the bridge in was acting at Coyote's direction.
When Robot is telling the story from his perspective, we see that the shadow man has two sets of ears/horns (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=223). To my knowledge, all other shadows we've met have had only one set - Is this just me, or does this imply that Coyote was directing or even possessing the shadow in that scene? It would make sense why Reynard was so mad at the time (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=114) and referred to his cousin's plans afterwards (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=225). Did Coyote set the whole chain of events in motion himself?
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Post by quoodle on Feb 20, 2013 18:08:38 GMT
On reading the "Fourth Treatise", I see the symbolism of Jeanne really being at the division between the court and the forest. Between Kat and Annie too. The division is not only the sword, but the evil arrow too - piercing a heart (who's heart? Jeanne's or her lover's?)
This is really making more sense now that things are progressing - but one new thing I see - the heart at the botton is a human heart - it has two arteries coming out of it - or is that two horns? It looks a lot like the symbol of the seed bismuth. Could that be what the seed is? The human heart? (or "a" human heart?)
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Post by Eversist on Feb 20, 2013 19:31:30 GMT
Can we assume that Reynard's change in symbol on his forehead here (in two out of three panels shown): gunnerkrigg.com/?p=740...is just an accident? Has it changed anywhere else in the comic? ...Other than here, where he has two? gunnerkrigg.com/?p=832It was discussed briefly in the page thread, but people seemed to think it was just an optical illusion of perspective... |
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Post by Per on Feb 20, 2013 19:44:06 GMT
The symbols in 740 look very much like they're just squeezed from the sides. The treatise is a mystary.
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 20, 2013 19:44:57 GMT
(who's heart? Jeanne's or her lover's?) That's the golems' heart. Can we assume that Reynard's change in symbol on his forehead here (in two out of three panels shown): gunnerkrigg.com/?p=740...is just an accident? Has it changed anywhere else in the comic? ...Other than here, where he has two? gunnerkrigg.com/?p=832It was discussed briefly in the page thread, but people seemed to think it was just an optical illusion of perspective... In the first page, those all look like the same symbol to me. The confusion is probably just due to the limitations of the medium, and Tom as a human being. As for the Treatise, the two symbols are for Mercury (upper) and Antimony (lower). The former is Renard's personal symbol. |
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Post by quoodle on Feb 20, 2013 21:34:05 GMT
So it is - I guess I let my imagination get away from me. =) Ok, why is the sword/arrow piercing the golem heart? I have no insight into that. yet. |
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 21, 2013 0:10:13 GMT
Ok, why is the sword/arrow piercing the golem heart? I have no insight into that. yet. I think it's something that's open to interpretation. For instance, one might take it as symbolic of Jeanne's love for her green-skinned courtier, which the arrow slew, but also of Parley's love for Smith, which that sword threatened to bring a premature end to. Another may believe it represents Diego's heart instead, which lay with Jeanne (whether or not she reciprocated). Jeanne first wounded it by spurning him so harshly, then the arrow Diego himself forged sundered it for good. Not that either of these are necessarily what Tom was thinking of when he drew it, but they're both valid opinions. |
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Post by tesla on Feb 22, 2013 11:34:01 GMT
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Post by quoodle on Feb 22, 2013 13:05:31 GMT
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Post by Toloc on Feb 22, 2013 13:27:14 GMT
On page 72 in panel 2 a sign above Zimmy and Gamma (their first appearence) says "risk of insect" (or something like that according to google). Nearly a thousand pages later we get this: Zimmy Vision of insectoid KatWe of course have no idea yet what exactly that insectoid Kat vision means, so it might just coincidental, or it could be really thorough planning that still hasn't completely paid off. |
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Post by Per on Feb 22, 2013 14:27:02 GMT
I think Kat is more robo-bird than insect, and Zimmy already has some bug connections.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 22, 2013 18:15:22 GMT
Can we assume that Reynard's change in symbol on his forehead here (in two out of three panels shown): gunnerkrigg.com/?p=740...is just an accident? Has it changed anywhere else in the comic? ...Other than here, where he has two? gunnerkrigg.com/?p=832It was discussed briefly in the page thread, but people seemed to think it was just an optical illusion of perspective... Good observation. I always dismissed that as a... Let's say, "typo". But now that I look closer, in the first panel the symbol is normal. Only after Zimmy's "boo" the symbol got messed up. It could still be a simple drawing mistake, but (1)the symbol is messed up in the exact same way in panel six, and (2)we all know about Tom and details. If I had to bet, my money would be on "designed change". Now I'm guessing it's something like Annies cut. Renard's original symbol is mercury, but the doll's symbol is that of Antimony. Zimmy's power messed up the ethereal and material worlds, and that made the two symbols blend in that weird thing we see on panels two and six. Or something like that. PS: Please, overlook my boxbotish grammar and weird use of words. |
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Post by Mezzaphor on Feb 22, 2013 18:52:03 GMT
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Post by tesla on Feb 22, 2013 22:01:07 GMT
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Post by Nnelg on Feb 23, 2013 4:28:53 GMT
He can't anymore, he gave that power away to Renard. (It's late, so I can't be bothered to go find the quote from Tom that says that. Similarly, Coyote hasn't had the ability to control trees since he gave that one to Ysengrin.) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2013 5:42:54 GMT
Every time I come across these, they simultaneously blow my mind and pluck that sad, tuneless string in my heart. |
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