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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 2, 2021 7:02:19 GMT
Would you look at that, Aata did have something up his sleeve. Now let's see how well it works. |
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Post by aline on Jul 2, 2021 7:04:19 GMT
Expected so far. Really looking forward to finding out what, exactly, they are going to unleash.
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Post by V on Jul 2, 2021 7:05:42 GMT
What a prime Friday cliffhanger!!
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Post by shinkaii on Jul 2, 2021 7:05:51 GMT
Well that's incredibly ominous. I wonder if they can do anything to Coyote that he in his infinite wisdom couldn't foresee? And even if they COULD capture him, wouldn't it be just a part of Coyote?
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jul 2, 2021 7:06:22 GMT
Oh, I'm MOSTLY looking forward to seeing Aata's frightened face when it doesn't work and completely backfires.
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Post by Fishy on Jul 2, 2021 7:07:34 GMT
Now the question is… does this memory of Coyote retain any of his power? Can he use any of Loup’s? Or is he present only visually? Because knowing Coyote, if he has any power at all then this little “Now.” is going to become “In a minute.” while he has the conversation he wants to have. Maybe literally, we’ve seen him stop time before.
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Post by madjack on Jul 2, 2021 7:08:36 GMT
Well that's incredibly ominous. I wonder if they can do anything to Coyote that he in his infinite wisdom couldn't foresee? And even if they COULD capture him, wouldn't it be just a part of Coyote? It's just a memory, but even a memory of Coyote trapped in a crystal ball or something might be valuable somehow? A good way to bring the character back while keeping Loup around to push the plot along, I think. Edit: Maybe holding whatever's left of Coyote hostage from Loup is their plan, given how much he craves Coyote's approval. |
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Post by shinkaii on Jul 2, 2021 7:12:44 GMT
Well that's incredibly ominous. I wonder if they can do anything to Coyote that he in his infinite wisdom couldn't foresee? And even if they COULD capture him, wouldn't it be just a part of Coyote? It's just a memory, but even a memory of Coyote trapped in a crystal ball or something might be valuable somehow? A good way to bring the character back while keeping Loup around to push the plot along, I think. Well, not quite. Here Coyote says that he locked a piece of himself along with a memory. But maybe it's just semantics. Also, I would die for creepy cursed Coyote crystal ball. Would really spice up my holiday decorations with its laughter. |
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Post by jda on Jul 2, 2021 7:14:28 GMT
Well that's incredibly ominous. I wonder if they can do anything to Coyote that he in his infinite wisdom couldn't foresee? Maybe what is about to be unleashed is exactly what The Court has hidden from Coyote. – moving the Readings Thing closer. Oh, how we all will laugh when we find the Readings Thing is the fabled Omega Device, on a now-cannonical anticlimatic shenanigan! I up my bet. |
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Post by philman on Jul 2, 2021 7:14:51 GMT
So now we see who wins out, Aata and the Court's etheric machinations, or Coyote and his ineffable plans. I am fully expecting that "getting captured" will be part of Coyote's plan from the start, he is a master of Xanathos Gambits after all |
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Post by aline on Jul 2, 2021 7:15:32 GMT
It's just a memory, but even a memory of Coyote trapped in a crystal ball or something might be valuable somehow? A good way to bring the character back while keeping Loup around to push the plot along, I think. They already had it in their labs for months, trapped in a bottle. I really doubt their only objective is to transfer it to a different container. Not to mention the homicidal magic wolf isn't just going to let them walk out again taking away something he considers his. No, they hope a lot more from that encounter. Maybe to destroy Loup, or to control him somehow? They've been playing around with the ether, anything is possible really. |
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Post by philman on Jul 2, 2021 7:20:50 GMT
It's just a memory, but even a memory of Coyote trapped in a crystal ball or something might be valuable somehow? A good way to bring the character back while keeping Loup around to push the plot along, I think. They already had it in their labs for months, trapped in a bottle. I really doubt their only objective is to transfer it to a different container. Not to mention the homicidal magic wolf isn't just going to let them walk out again taking away something he considers his. No, they hope a lot more from that encounter. Maybe to destroy Loup, or to control him somehow? They've been playing around with the ether, anything is possible really. Just because they had the lakewater in their lab doesn't mean they had the means to use or do anything with it. If it would only be activated upon contact with Loup, they needed to bring it to him first in order to awake Coyote and then capture him. |
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Post by madjack on Jul 2, 2021 7:23:53 GMT
It's just a memory, but even a memory of Coyote trapped in a crystal ball or something might be valuable somehow? A good way to bring the character back while keeping Loup around to push the plot along, I think. They already had it in their labs for months, trapped in a bottle. I really doubt their only objective is to transfer it to a different container. Not to mention the homicidal magic wolf isn't just going to let them walk out again taking away something he considers his. No, they hope a lot more from that encounter. Maybe to destroy Loup, or to control him somehow? They've been playing around with the ether, anything is possible really. said what I wanted to better, but that is a good point about Loup not just letting them take Coyote, or resuming his attack if they managed to escape somehow. |
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Post by jda on Jul 2, 2021 7:26:22 GMT
It's just a memory, but even a memory of Coyote trapped in a crystal ball or something might be valuable somehow? A good way to bring the character back while keeping Loup around to push the plot along, I think. No, they hope a lot more from that encounter. Maybe to destroy Loup, or to control him somehow? They've been playing around with the ether, anything is possible really. Extract the Ether from Coyote. Like with the water.Only a measly canine would remain. |
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Post by speedwell on Jul 2, 2021 7:37:54 GMT
I've been thinking that, knowing Tom, he has kept a lot of plot lines in reserve to pull forward in unexpected ways. Since this is a hugely complex story, it's kind of like a piano - every note is important, but not every note gets played in every performance. I've long suspected that there are more "main characters" in the Court other than the ones who are upstage on a regular basis, and it is foolish for us to assume that Aata is not equally powerful as or even more powerful than Eglamore or Jones, in the scheme of things. In fact I think most of us suspected that the real authority at Court is a shadowy cabal we know virtually nothing about, except that it was once willing to sacrifice one of its own members in a particularly cruel and spiritually hideous way in the distant past.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Jul 2, 2021 8:01:40 GMT
I figure Aata waiting for the exact moment of "Loup" being distracted by assimilating the water tells us that they think their odds of success are higher by doing so, by extension it might not work if "Loup" is not distracted. We know they've been experimenting with ether extraction for some time with some success, so the simplest possibility would appear to be that they reassembled the extraction station in the red zone where an undistracted "Loup" could quickly destroy it. I don't think that will be enough, though, and perhaps the Court agrees and that's why the protectors are there. Maybe they plan on finishing him in melee combat? Or maybe Aata has one more trick up his sleeve. Suddenly ordering the team to attack after keeping them in the dark seems like his style, though.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jul 2, 2021 8:13:23 GMT
Well that's incredibly ominous. I wonder if they can do anything to Coyote that he in his infinite wisdom couldn't foresee? Maybe what is about to be unleashed is exactly what The Court has hidden from Coyote. You can't do this to me, you can't just give me a page and expect me NOT to read that entire chapter and the next one and try to begin the next one, but realize I should really be doing more important stuff! |
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Post by machiavelli33 on Jul 2, 2021 9:45:00 GMT
Oh what is it now, Court? What the dirt-chewing seed-bismuth-licking Jeanne-boyfriend-in-the-chest-shooting HELL are you doing now?? God DAMN IT. Except... he won't even be able to! Probably because of whatever Court is about to do! Coyote finally comes back and you arghhhh-
PLOT-TWIST: "Now. ...turn the lights on, now. I can't see what's going on over there."
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 2, 2021 11:20:49 GMT
I did expect the first three panels, the fourth not so much. I mean, I expected it in this chapter, but not at this point specifically. Can't wait to see what the Shadow Men have cooked up. Loup's tongue is growing more deranged by the second. Oh what is it now, Court? What the dirt-chewing seed-bismuth-licking Jeanne-boyfriend-in-the-chest-shooting HELL are you doing now?? God DAMN IT. Except... he won't even be able to! Probably because of whatever Court is about to do! Coyote finally comes back and you arghhhh- PLOT-TWIST: "Now. ...turn the lights on, now. I can't see what's going on over there." I would have expected a much calmer reaction from someone who calls himself Macchiavelli...   |
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Post by Tenjen on Jul 2, 2021 12:20:13 GMT
I'm afraid the court has underestimated coyote severely.
he did let loup know that loup was going to die, and while he wouldnt understand coyote's plan he would appreciate it before he died.
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Post by philman on Jul 2, 2021 13:00:51 GMT
Hmm, I had a sudden thought reading through the last few comments.
We've seen that the Court takes in animals and fairies from the forest and turns them into humans if they wish, but they need to die first and be turned into a totem.
We've seen that Coyote wishes to experience death, and has told Loup that once Loup finds out the rest of his plan, he will agree with it, and then will die. We've also seen that Coyote wishes to experience everything, and thinks that himself and the other gods only exist due to human imagination.
What if this whole thing is some long term plan for Coyote himself to become human, to die but then be reborn into a human body.
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Post by saardvark on Jul 2, 2021 13:05:16 GMT
So now we see who wins out, Aata and the Court's etheric machinations, or Coyote and his ineffable plans. I am fully expecting that "getting captured" will be part of Coyote's plan from the start, he is a master of Xanathos Gambits after all getting captured (and likely brought back into the Court) would put Coyote in a position to wreak havoc on the Court from the inside, with the excuse that "well, you invited/brought me here...." |
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Post by ohthatone on Jul 2, 2021 13:23:13 GMT
Hmm, I had a sudden thought reading through the last few comments. We've seen that the Court takes in animals and fairies from the forest and turns them into humans if they wish, but they need to die first and be turned into a totem. We've seen that Coyote wishes to experience death, and has told Loup that once Loup finds out the rest of his plan, he will agree with it, and then will die. We've also seen that Coyote wishes to experience everything, and thinks that himself and the other gods only exist due to human imagination. What if this whole thing is some long term plan for Coyote himself to become human, to die but then be reborn into a human body. I LOVE this idea if only because it has the potential for being a Q story (from star trek) BUT because of that I also think from a writing standpoint this won't happen because it would then just be the Coyote show. Besides I don't think Loup would agree to becoming human as Coyote said Loup would agree to his plan. |
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Post by ctso74 on Jul 2, 2021 13:51:39 GMT
Though it was expected, Coyote's sudden appearance is still quite jarring.
So which is scarier, a rabid Loup or a laughing Coyote?
I'm sure Suit Buddha has his plans and contingencies, but I'm fairly sure Coyote is still a step ahead. If the Court actually managed to trick Coyote, I think he'd be pleased with the surprise. Can't wait for Monday.
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Post by atteSmythe on Jul 2, 2021 14:00:34 GMT
Aw, I was looking forward to what Coyote was going to say...but I have a feeling that recorded message is about to be preempted.
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Post by shadow3 on Jul 2, 2021 14:10:36 GMT
I swear if there isn't a massive Ghostbusters reference in the next few pages, it will surely be a travesty.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 2, 2021 14:17:44 GMT
Though it was expected, Coyote's sudden appearance is still quite jarring. So which is scarier, a rabid Loup or a laughing Coyote? I'm sure Suit Buddha has his plans and contingencies, but I'm fairly sure Coyote is still a step ahead. If the Court actually managed to trick Coyote, I think he'd be pleased with the surprise. Can't wait for Monday. Oh yes. Coyote can only win. Either he is pleased because his plans worked, or he is pleased because someone managed to surprise him / show him a new trick. |
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Post by machiavelli33 on Jul 2, 2021 14:37:08 GMT
I would have expected a much calmer reaction from someone who calls himself Macchiavelli... The ends justify the means, the ends being me being HOPPIN' MAD AT THE COURT and ALSO KINDA CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THEY HAVE UP THEIR WACKY SLEEVES THIS TIME? ...in that order. |
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Post by arf on Jul 2, 2021 14:49:19 GMT
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Post by maxptc on Jul 2, 2021 15:26:17 GMT
I still think the Court is being underestimated and might have a plan that works. Cunning and a proper plan have the potential to beat overwhelming power, in stories in practicular.
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