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Post by Zox Tomana on Jan 2, 2017 8:08:39 GMT
In the real world, he's dead.Like, super dead. Stab just to the left of his sternum, a little above the level of the nipple line... that's left ventricle territory. HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Post by brokshi on Jan 2, 2017 8:10:14 GMT
Oh shit! I didn't even consider he'd ALSO be undead!
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Post by Bontage on Jan 2, 2017 8:11:33 GMT
Alternative titles: Carpe Cruris, Grasping at Straws, Within Reach...
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Post by edzepp on Jan 2, 2017 8:12:18 GMT
well i mean it could be like a ghost knife and maybe the damage is spiritual
let me hope futilely
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Post by crater on Jan 2, 2017 8:14:49 GMT
it would be fun she said
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Post by Aura on Jan 2, 2017 8:17:55 GMT
Still no blood, but maybe Smitty getting stabbed made greenie come to the surface? All a part of the plan...sort of
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Post by fish on Jan 2, 2017 8:21:33 GMT
Well this is just getting worse.
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Post by haspen on Jan 2, 2017 8:22:43 GMT
I dunno if Tom is queasy about showing blood or no, but I think there would be some red stains already? Also it looks as if the dagger is getting its shards off so maybe Smitty wore some sort of chain/metal armor under-
Ha ha ha who am I kidding. RIP Smitty, 2017 decided to make you his first victim.
Also, an angry fencer ghost lady is dangerous enough... now she will become dual boss with angry elf zombie/ghoul. I think our party needs a few more levels before they can tackle this.
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Post by bedinsis on Jan 2, 2017 8:23:12 GMT
No, no, NO!
Okay, there has already been one fake-out, and Smitty looks more surprised then in pain. I remain hopeful.
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Post by ctso74 on Jan 2, 2017 8:23:28 GMT
Yikes. There hardly seems a need for a saving throw, for luck to play into anything. Maybe, he was "unluckily" born with a heart in an odd place...
If things are as they seem, this does not look good for Eyebrows. Then again, how often are things how they seem?
I'm assuming that's Green Man's hand. I wonder, if he's there to help or hinder?
Happy New Year?...
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Post by snowflake on Jan 2, 2017 8:25:27 GMT
well i mean it could be like a ghost knife and maybe the damage is spiritual let me hope futilely Given that the dagger looks about 10 cm deep in him yet there's not a drop of blood to be seen, it would be irresponsible not to consider the possibility of a ghost knife. Jeanne's sword is a part of her, which might be what gives it the power to cut living flesh; does the dagger even work the same way? |
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Post by atteSmythe on Jan 2, 2017 8:33:33 GMT
All according to plan.
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Post by youwiththeface on Jan 2, 2017 8:42:37 GMT
well i mean it could be like a ghost knife and maybe the damage is spiritual let me hope futilely Given that the dagger looks about 10 cm deep in him yet there's not a drop of blood to be seen, it would be irresponsible not to consider the possibility of a ghost knife. Jeanne's sword is a part of her, which might be what gives it the power to cut living flesh; does the dagger even work the same way? I think this is worth linking to right... about... now. Note that while Annie will carry an etheric scar for the rest of the comic up to this point, on pages 142 and 143 she has no physical wound, despite being struck by Jeanne. |
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jan 2, 2017 8:52:41 GMT
Given that the dagger looks about 10 cm deep in him yet there's not a drop of blood to be seen, it would be irresponsible not to consider the possibility of a ghost knife. Jeanne's sword is a part of her, which might be what gives it the power to cut living flesh; does the dagger even work the same way? I think this is worth linking to right... about... now. Note that while Annie will carry an etheric scar for the rest of the comic up to this point, on pages 142 and 143 she has no physical wound, despite being struck by Jeanne. That's something good to link to, but shall we note that this is also on the other side of the Annan Waters, and we don't know how real Jeanne's presence was in those pages. She might have been there etherically, hence the etheric damage. Various other creatures have been ended by her blade. As to the lack of immediate blood: I'd say if there's no blood in the next panel or two showing Smitty (specifically ones we can be sure haven't happened in the space of just a few seconds) we can safely say he's either not really stabbed, or that there's something else going on, or that Tom is gonna be squeamish on this one. For right now: there're easier paths in the body for the blood from the heart and descending aorta (which are likely to be the most direct sources of most of the blood for this wound. Sure, there's also possibly a laceration to the internal thoracic artery, but that's tiny compared to the pump and the pipe) to flow before it squeezes out from around the blade. There's the pericardial sac, the plueral space, the intrathoracic space... lotta volume that can absorb some of the bloodflow here in the handful of seconds after the Smit-hit. |
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Post by KMar on Jan 2, 2017 9:12:05 GMT
So according to your ghost sword theory, Smitty is ...etherically dead? That can't be good either, even if the body survives.
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Post by Gauldoth Half-Dead on Jan 2, 2017 9:20:23 GMT
No immediate bleeding is accurate, actually.
The surrounding tissue is still sort of sealing around the dagger, blocking the torn blood vessels. Think this: the blade made that hole, it fits perfectly into it. Now, twist it and it shreds tissue more and no longer has a sealing effect. Pull it out and you have a hole with no plug.
(Remember: NEVER pull out any weapon that's been left in the stab. Slashes look nasty. Stabs kill.)
As for Annie's wound and this being the same ether-wound... we are not in the ether now. Jeanne killed multiple beings, as shown in those tapes of the RotD. Pretty sure this was how.
I'm hoping Smitty lives with some deus ex machina, but I think this is it. After this, Smitty being saved would feel like a cop out, but Tom has been known to not do those... so this will be interesting one way or another.
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Post by youwiththeface on Jan 2, 2017 9:27:21 GMT
As for Annie's wound and this being the same ether-wound... we are not in the ether now. Jeanne killed multiple beings, as shown in those tapes of the RotD. Pretty sure this was how. Annie wasn't in the ether when Jeanne slashed her either. And the beings Jeanne killed were not creatures of the mortal plain. Actually I can't remember, do we know that Jeanne's killed anyone but Psychopomps? Like, any humans? |
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Post by snowflake on Jan 2, 2017 9:45:39 GMT
Jeanne killed multiple beings, as shown in those tapes of the RotD. Pretty sure this was how. Do we really know of anyone she killed otherwise than with her sword? |
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Jan 2, 2017 9:56:22 GMT
What if Jeanne is going for Ether-Smith, the Smith that's been throwing off these luck strands? Could she just have killed his luck, without touching his physical body? Why bother, though?
Also, is Green Guy slowly recomposing around his skeleton? Uber-cool...
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Post by Lightice on Jan 2, 2017 10:13:47 GMT
My prediction: by locking up the arrow, Annie and Kat have rendered Jeanne impotent, or at least less powerful, and this attack is non-lethal.
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Post by fish on Jan 2, 2017 10:28:30 GMT
Annie, you are ruining your perfectly good court provided suede boots. Stop it!
Parley, you just dropped your sword mid fight again. This is becoming quite the habit. Stop it!
Smitty, good job carrying around that pocket dimension around your chest for the last two weeks! Looks real convincing, good job!
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Post by ST13R on Jan 2, 2017 10:49:51 GMT
Ehehe, better hope Green Guy 's a healer.
I think the fact the previous page was in 'Ether-mode', might have some significance. Somehow.
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Post by noone3 on Jan 2, 2017 12:21:36 GMT
well i mean it could be like a ghost knife and maybe the damage is spiritual let me hope futilely Yup. Let us all hope beyond hope, that while he will be mortally wounded to the soul, leaving him a joyless, emotionless, zombie-like empty husk of a man, he still would be able to lurch after our group of reckless merry-girls (sans the tights), if only for uplifting value of his enormous eyebrows. |
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Post by guitarminotaur on Jan 2, 2017 12:32:46 GMT
That is a rather wide, long piece of metal going straight through Smitty's heart. It entered his chest on the left side too, so very little chance it missed.
If it were a real life wound, as the OP says, this would be fatal. Maybe getting stabbed through your spirit is less instantly disastrous. That said... I don't see the blade coming out the other side. And that is a long knife. Maybe Jeanne has been depowered, as another poster pointed out?
As for skeleton dude...
It really does strike me again how reckless this was. It's one thing not to tell the court, but Annie could have at least run this past Jones. Also, one thing that strikes me is that not one of the characters, at any point in this series of events, pointed out how reckless this was. There wasn't one "hang on, let's clue at least one adult in on this", "Do we really know everything we need to know about ghosts?" or even an "Annie, do you have a back-up in case this plan goes awry?"
Though I suppose they could be forgiven for not having a plan regarding "what do we do if the corpse comes back to life?" And Annie does seem to have had some kind of plan or expectation... but it hasn't happened, and it's ominous that Kat had to make her back-up for her. Maybe Annie was expecting Jeanne to fade into the ether on her own?
Narratively, I'd expect Annie's recklessness to be punished here. She's led her friends into the middle of a dangerous situation she knows nothing about, and it's shaping up to be a disaster. I think this event will finally pull her to account... assuming they don't end up spiritually maimed or comatose or some other catastrophe. I wonder what will happen if Annie starts using her fire powers now. She might have the only weapon that can actually stop Jeanne and her boyfriend in their tracks.
EDIT: Another observation... Parley doesn't seem to be dropping her sword so much as flinging it aside. Is she planning to grapple Jeanne?
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Post by Saliant on Jan 2, 2017 12:44:05 GMT
Just an odd thing to note. Smitty seems to be wearing a vest of some sort under his hoodie. Perhaps it's just his shirt, but it might be a vague glimmer of hope.
Also, as has been said? What's the damage of an etheric blow to the heart? After all, Parley has a pretty hard gash to her side. These last few pages have had an odd, almost warped dreamlike quality to them. Though perhaps that's just to illustrate the traumatic event. Sadly, it seems that the resolution is going to drag out just a bit more.
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Post by elcheeso on Jan 2, 2017 12:46:11 GMT
Looks like Parley dropped her sword in response to the stabbing and now we're looking at zombies while Jeanne is still armed. All in all, this is shaping up to be a successful mission of great success. Good work, team!
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Post by saardvark on Jan 2, 2017 12:59:16 GMT
My prediction: by locking up the arrow, Annie and Kat have rendered Jeanne impotent, or at least less powerful, and this attack is non-lethal. This is what I was going to say, until I read your post. Once the arrow was encased, Jeanne's ability to affect the real plane was attenuated. Maybe it is fading away in time, like the decay of a radioactive element, so that its ability to alter "reality" get weaker and weaker with each passing moment. That could explain why you get a contact clang in 1772, but Jeanne's sword is actually noticeably bent by the force of Parley's blow. Now Jeanne stabs with a dagger, and while it pierces ol'Eyebrow's shirt, the blade is bent sideways by his skin (or sternum). And the Smit-ster looks more surprised than fatally injured. (unless the sword bend is just artistic drama, and this is all wild-spec!) |
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Post by fish on Jan 2, 2017 13:02:03 GMT
It really does strike me again how reckless this was. It's one thing not to tell the court, but Annie could have at least run this past Jones. Also, one thing that strikes me is that not one of the characters, at any point in this series of events, pointed out how reckless this was. There wasn't one "hang on, let's clue at least one adult in on this", "Do we really know everything we need to know about ghosts?" or even an "Annie, do you have a back-up in case this plan goes awry?" There was a tiny bit of hesitation on page 1300, from Smitty of all people, but I can't recall any proper risk assessment either. Except perhaps for Parley's realization early on that she cannot possibly hope to actually defeat Jeanne. |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jan 2, 2017 13:08:27 GMT
Damn, shit is getting realer by the minute, it seems.
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Post by mordekai on Jan 2, 2017 13:13:18 GMT
F**k these un-people. F**k them with a rusty shovel, sideways. Kat should build a time machine and convince the team to not try the rescue!
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