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Post by noone3 on Jun 29, 2015 8:14:10 GMT
Tom Siddell: And for my next trick, I will give thousands of people heart attacks.
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quark
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Post by quark on Jun 29, 2015 9:59:45 GMT
Next option, for Kat and everybody else would be to wait - wait until Annie figures out what's what and wants to be helped. (also, boring, except if we would include a time skip, but that would feel dishonest to the story). This assumes that Annie does not know what she wants, or thinks she can achieve and is not working towards those goals already. In the best way that someone as emotionally screwed up as Annie is can, She has plenty of issues that if the court cared about her they would have been helping her with for a while now. I would not be surprised if she has an "un-diagnosed" learning disability (probably Math related) and combined with her social insecurity lead to her cheating. I have Dysgraphia, which is a language disability affecting writing, and know how that affected me growing up, and I avoided allot of courses in University I would have found interesting as I was afraid of the papers and essay question on exams. [snip] Th problem with the situation is that Annie is next to helpless to fix her situation other then grinning and bring it until she gets her marks up, and knows her father well enough to realize that an emotional outburst will not work on him. Meaning we the reader are dependent on either a time skip or someone else giving Annie an opening she can actually work with, as right now she has none that we can see. It does not make sense for the court to Let things reach the current situation unless it is up to something, same as when they made Smitty the Medium (and Jones called them out on it, though they never explained) and unfortunately something is probably going to have to blow up in their faces as a result for Annie's issues to actually get resolved. Okay, 'Annie figuring out what's what' probably needs more detail. Repeating a class is probably a good idea since she cheated her way at least through the last year, so that isn't what she should rebel against. Her father treats her badly - he humiliates her, he takes away friends, he isolates her... he takes away her job. No matter if Renard is safe or if Anthony doesn't care about emotional outbursts or whatever, this is something she doesn't have to 'bear'. She doesn't have to endure humiliation by her only parent, she doesn't have to be isolated (especially from Kat - those two living together could help a lot, since Kat could be a very good tutor), and she deserves to be listened to and included in the decisions that affect her life; her cheating had some reason - be it a learning disability or huge holes in her education because she was home-schooled, but without knowing or caring for it, tutoring her isn't half as effective. She does have to face the consequences of her actions - her cheating, but she does not have to bear the abuse her father is dishing out. She can't make the distinction as of now, so that's what I meant by 'figuring out' - as soon as she does that, she can get help from Kat or, better, adults responsible for her, such as Jones, Eglamore, the Donlans or any other teacher (even Dr. Disaster! He seems like a nice guy).
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Post by thescarredman on Jun 30, 2015 2:05:54 GMT
It seems significant to me that this fire elemental aspect of Annie's is trying to reach for her, but can't touch her.
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Post by mishyana on Jul 1, 2015 2:59:37 GMT
It's honestly a little surprising to me that as many people are taking this most recent development as a negative as there are. My immediate thought was that it shows Annie still has some agency and doing plots n' schemes behind dear ol' dad's back. I don't think he knows anything about this at all.
My only negative in regards to this is that she's keeping Kat and Reynard and all of her other friends in the dark in regards to whatever her plan here is; something which, however this thing with her dad plays out, is going to lead to some Level 3 Drama down the road.
Just kind of feels like most of us have spent weeks now clamoring for some sort of light at the end of the very long, very dark tunnel that has been this storyline, and now that we've at least arguably got one, we don't want it. Or at least don't want it to be good.
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Post by Refugee on Jul 1, 2015 3:08:24 GMT
It's honestly a little surprising to me that as many people are taking this most recent development as a negative as there are. My immediate thought was that it shows Annie still has some agency and doing plots n' schemes behind dear ol' dad's back. I don't think he knows anything about this at all. My only negative in regards to this is that she's keeping Kat and Reynard and all of her other friends in the dark in regards to whatever her plan here is; something which, however this thing with her dad plays out, is going to lead to some Level 3 Drama down the road. Welcom to the forums! And no, you are not the only one taking this as a positive development.
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Post by mishyana on Jul 1, 2015 3:17:10 GMT
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Post by Rasselas on Jul 1, 2015 3:37:54 GMT
Yeah, it's definitely the first ray of hope we've gotten to see in a long time. It just also brings up many questions.
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Post by geoduck on Jul 1, 2015 4:12:14 GMT
It's honestly a little surprising to me that as many people are taking this most recent development as a negative as there are. My immediate thought was that it shows Annie still has some agency and doing plots n' schemes behind dear ol' dad's back. I don't think he knows anything about this at all. My only negative in regards to this is that she's keeping Kat and Reynard and all of her other friends in the dark in regards to whatever her plan here is; something which, however this thing with her dad plays out, is going to lead to some Level 3 Drama down the road. Welcom to the forums! And no, you are not the only one taking this as a positive development. We don't actually know for a fact that whatever is going on, she did it behind her father's back.
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Post by mishyana on Jul 1, 2015 6:45:24 GMT
Welcom to the forums! And no, you are not the only one taking this as a positive development. We don't actually know for a fact that whatever is going on, she did it behind her father's back. No, to be fair, we don't. But the rather immediate changes in posture, attitude, etc. once he was gone, combined with her watching her father until he'd gotten quite a ways down the street before heading in and saying "you can come down now" implies pretty heavily, in my opinion, that this is something Tony doesn't know about. And unless this is in some way not the Annie we have known up to this point, her exclamation about "That went quite well, I think!" isn't a reference to awkward and uncomfortable dinners with Kat and her parents but rather that she's playing him somehow.
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