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[aline]

Apr 15, 2015 6:42:12 GMT gunnerwf said:

One thing that is curious to me is that the court didn't want Antimony as the Forest Medium. There would be some benefit to her having the position as forest medium.
She would be more friendly and fair to the court than Ysengrin, she isn't likely to do Ysengrin's seed attack for example. For the concerns about her getting closer to the forest, it wouldn't be that bad actually. Even if she get's closer to the forest she isn't going to be like Ysengrin levels of hatred towards the court.

The Court doesn't really need the forest people to be friendly to them. Also there is obviously a reason why they denied her the Court Medium role although she was the best candidate. Jones clearly believed that the headmaster was plotting something, and so did Coyote. Perhaps they needed to keep Annie away from the forest altogether, and were very unhappy to see this plan thwarted by Coyote.

They might think that Coyote will try to trick her to use her against the Court

They might think that she's poking around too much and would end up discovering something they don't want discovered

They might have received instructions from our best friend Anthony that contact with the forest had to cease, himself having his own unknown reasons to want to keep her away from the place ("Changes" is two chapters after "Divine")

Just speculating.

[eyemyself]

Apr 14, 2015 19:29:27 GMT keef said:

Apr 14, 2015 16:43:01 GMT goldenknots said:

 In other words, where is that hospital with respect to Gunnerkrigg Court? A good hike? A train-ride? Other side of the channel?

GC is located in the UK, Good Hope somewhere in England. There is also a real Good Hope hospital near Birmingham.

Apr 14, 2015 16:45:39 GMT eyemyself said:

I wanted to pull out that quote not so much for the intended, or actual, impact it was/is implied to have had on Annie at the time as for the information it gives us, the readers, about T.

Damn, my subtle plan to divert attention from A. Carver to A. Carver foiled.

www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=286
Well played. Well played.

[rama]

Apr 13, 2015 15:44:35 GMT pxc said:

Apr 13, 2015 14:23:47 GMT Sky Schemer said:

Take a close look at page 1041 again. Those bones are an etheric projection of his hand. That is him doing an etheric surgery on Antimony. The likely explanation here is that he loses his hand as result of Zimmy interrupting this procedure. Either the hand gets severed when the link is severed (becuase it's still "inside" her), or that fire spirit that he is (probably) trying to cut out ends up burning it, or there is some similar mishap.

From that perspective, it looks like Anthony found out that there's nothing to remove.  It's who she is.  Removing the fire spirit means killing her.  Which makes sense. When it moves from mother to daughter the mother dies.

Huh! I actually counted those to four in total, but now that you mention it there's five of them. It does look like super stretched finger bones in a way. Has it been confirmed that it was, or is this the popular theory? I'm not good enough at keeping up with the current whereabouts of GC, but I like the imagery a lot nonetheless.

Why would he need a physical scalpel for cutting etherical things though?

Could it be that he planned to trap the fire spirit in his arm and then cut it off to trick the magic into leaving Annie alive?
Maybe he knew before he started it that the process would burn his arm so badly he'd likely need medical help, and being the person he is he prepared for the worst possible scenario?

The fact that he requested a scalpel makes me believe that he needed and planned to cut something physical. It wasn't enchanted or programmed to influence magical stuff, it was a scalpel. When he later turns up with an arm missing, at least I immediately suspect that he used it on himself for some reason.

I do think that Zimmy could do some real damage though, so the theory that it was all her still sounds reasonable to me.

[kelantar]

Apr 13, 2015 16:58:50 GMT Refugee said:

Ah, yes. The victim denies she's being abused. Proof, absolute inviolable proof, that she is in fact being abused.

Thing is, while victims often do defend their abusers, people who are not being abused will also deny they are being abused, and will defend the suspect.

The second part of that kinda contradicts the first part. You say it can go either way, and that a person saying they're not abused gives no indication of whether or not they are being abused, but then you initially seemed to be sarcastically pointing out that her saying she's not abused means she's not she's being abused. Also, no one is citing that as the reason they think she's being abused. They are saying the same thing as you are, that a person saying they're not being abused does not give any indication of whether they are being abused or not, the difference being that they thought she was being abused before that, whereas you do not.

Also, folks, when you go to comfort someone, trying listening to them first, and don't put them in the position of comforting you. Certainly don't force your expectations on them right away.

I'm glad you see that Anthony is handling this poorl-- wait, was this directed at Kat? Because I hope you see the irony in that given your defense of Anthony.

This strip, where Annie explains to Kat how she came to the Court, makes several points relevant here:

First, Annie spent most of her time with her Mom, who taught her as much as she could. Later we see Annie has a bed right next to her Mom's.

Second, it was Surma, not Anthony, who enrolled Annie in the Court's school.

Third, Annie's makeup is her Mother's, as we see from other strips involving Surma.

Fourth, there's a strip showing Mrs. Donlan weeping over the announcement that Annie will be a new student at the court. She knows, apparently, that this means that Surma has died. And she suggests that Kat might like to make friends with the new girl. In other words, no, Annie didn't just happen to meet Kat and the Donlans, or even Eglamore. When she came to the Court, there were adults there that knew Surma and Anthony, and could be trusted to take care of their daughter.

Which is to say, Surma had far more influence over Annie than Anthony did. Anthony's been accused of child neglect for abandoning her; no, that would be Surma, if anyone. As someone else mentioned, Annie is not the only student who lives at the Court.

.......................................... She's, uh, kinda dead.

I mean, I don't think she did all she could to prepare Annie, true, but when I say Anthony abandoned her for two years, the reason I'm not bringing Surma into it is because she is dead. Like deader than dead. There was nothing left dead. On the other hand, you could say Surma never abandoned her, because even in death, her life IS Annie's.

Again, given what I know about him, I do not like Anthony. I hope that I would do a...warmer father than he has been. But I don't know everything, and I don't see much here that goes beyond an appropriate response to Annie's long term pattern of cheating.

I guess my complaint here is that he hasn't gone beyond a response to her cheating (whether appropriate or not). The fact that the only personal thing he seems to have said to her is that he is disappointed in her (after popping up out of nowhere on her after over two years) is not something that I think is even in the neighborhood of okay.