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Post by SilverbackRon on Jul 26, 2014 19:52:50 GMT
I have had a hard time shipping Annie with anyone, since the big reveal of how the fire elemental portion always is fatal upon reproduction. Now looking back at Surma who was the only other fire elemental we know (although clearly her mother was one, and her grandmother before her...) we see Surma was capable of romantic feelings and apparently dated more than one boy (James, then Anthony). Did Surma know the fate in store for her? Well, that is a discussion for another thread, but it comes back to shipping Annie. I think that Antimony, like her mother before her, is quite capable of having romantic (aka-sexual) feelings and eventually will. As for her current ship, all I can do is shrug my shoulders and say "Jack?" simply because this is the only available boy Annie knows well enough to remember his name. haha Oh, there are obviously other boys at Gunnerkrigg, but we just haven't been introduced to them. I see Reynard as a father figure to Annie, or something. I honestly don't see any ship for him. Paz/Kat - that ship sailed up on me so unexpectedly I was quite surprised. But I love it. This is the best ship ever. I hope to see more of them together soon. Very soon! Come on, they are sailing out to sea on a cruise ship for crying out loud!
Zimmy/Gamma - No question to me that they are beyond just a couple because of the special nature of their relationship. They are the original GKC ship. |
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Post by Daedalus on Jul 26, 2014 19:59:54 GMT
I don't remember if I saw anything in the comic that could possibly point to that? That never stops anyone from shipping. |
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Post by smurfton on Jul 26, 2014 20:46:38 GMT
Jones/Boxbot. No explanation required. Sure, but that interferes with my OTP: Y'see, Roboxbot is terribly awesome. |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 26, 2014 20:55:32 GMT
elementalfoxgoddessWelcome to Gunnerkrigg, the shippers do not understand the concept of logic. 
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Post by mglvna on Jul 26, 2014 20:55:42 GMT
Zimmy/Gamma is pretty obviously canon, and awesome.
Paz/Kat came out of left field but has proved itself completely adorable.
I don't really have an Annie ship. Not really seeing her with Jack, even if the asexual theory turns out false.
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 26, 2014 21:00:29 GMT
I think that Antimony, like her mother before her, is quite capable of having romantic (aka-sexual) feelings and eventually will. One can have romantic feelings while being asexual. Although no one is sure about Annie for anything. |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 26, 2014 21:03:53 GMT
Paz/Kat came out of left field but has proved itself completely adorable. If you reread you'll find a lot of hints, mostly faraway morning onward but one can connect the dots earlier. I was kind of suspicious about SOMETHING when she started fetishizing birds because of Alistair. She had to be trying too hard to like guys. |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Jul 26, 2014 21:35:21 GMT
I think that Antimony, like her mother before her, is quite capable of having romantic (aka-sexual) feelings and eventually will. One can have romantic feelings while being asexual. Although no one is sure about Annie for anything. Agreed. I guess what I want to say is that is hard to tell how our Antimony is going to react to the changes puberty brings. But we do remember from Faraway Morning that in the end[ Annie did give Jack a second chance at that kiss, and probably would have gone through with it if Hyland had been interested. So that is why I have doubts about complete asexuality for Annie. There is at least curiosity if not intent behind those blue eyes of hers. Though I think she tries hard to deny it. And I am pretty sure she would be aghast at our discussing it. hahaha. "Set your readers on fire" would be Tom's footnote. |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 26, 2014 21:53:01 GMT
She could still be completely asexual while still being heteroromantic
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Post by warrl on Jul 26, 2014 23:33:38 GMT
And if they can change size - as Coyote can - you can even ship them in a small box so the freight charge won't be high.  Why Coyote/Jean? I don't remember if I saw anything in the comic that could possibly point to that? First, I don't see what that has to do with what it's a reply to.  Second, I haven't noticed that ever stopping - or even slowing - the shipping before.  |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 27, 2014 0:51:28 GMT
Coyote/Jeanne would be extremely unlikely, but he could have played the green elf guy to make Jeanne brokenhearted and Diego jealous. This would allow Diego to muster up the drive to have the court kill Jeanne. Since Jeanne is just an enhancement to the Annan waters I could see Coyote manipulating people to make her.
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Post by hypixion on Jul 27, 2014 1:41:22 GMT
Coyote/Jeanne would be extremely unlikely, but he could have played the green elf guy to make Jeanne brokenhearted and Diego jealous. This would allow Diego to muster up the drive to have the court kill Jeanne. Since Jeanne is just an enhancement to the Annan waters I could see Coyote manipulating people to make her. The green guy was shot with the arrow and killed, jeanne left to die grieving. So coyote was not the green guy. |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 27, 2014 1:52:36 GMT
Oh, thanks for informing me on canon. And I wasn't seriously suggesting it, just trying to see if it could possibly work in slight chances. You know, "challenge accepted" and all that.
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 27, 2014 4:38:00 GMT
Jones/Boxbot. No explanation required. Sure, but that interferes with my OTP: Y'see, Roboxbot is terribly awesome. Jones/Boxbox/Robox OT3 |
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Post by lit on Jul 27, 2014 5:28:41 GMT
I want to believe. Annie is probably just hiding her emotions, but I think it makes sense for her to be asexual for some reason. I agree with you. It's all too easy for me to see Annie as asexual. I am asexual myself, and so far Annie has not done or said anything that I would not have done or said. I relate to her a lot. Growing up, my asexuality did not precluded romantic(ish) interest in people, a desire for intimacy or nonsexual affection, or intense curiosity about sex. (My interest in sex diminished once my curiosity was satisfied.) I did not even fully recognize my asexuality until I was in my twenties. I don't believe, however, that Tom is intentionally writing Annie to be asexual. That would... that would be too nice of a thing. |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Jul 27, 2014 8:15:22 GMT
I want to believe. Annie is probably just hiding her emotions, but I think it makes sense for her to be asexual for some reason. I agree with you. It's all too easy for me to see Annie as asexual. I am asexual myself, and so far Annie has not done or said anything that I would not have done or said. I relate to her a lot. Growing up, my asexuality did not precluded romantic(ish) interest in people, a desire for intimacy or nonsexual affection, or intense curiosity about sex. (My interest in sex diminished once my curiosity was satisfied.) I did not even fully recognize my asexuality until I was in my twenties. I don't believe, however, that Tom is intentionally writing Annie to be asexual. That would... that would be too nice of a thing. That... makes a lot more sense to me, the way you put it. Very well worded. And a nice post for your post # 113 (considering that seems to be Tom's favorite number). |
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Post by hypixion on Jul 27, 2014 10:58:50 GMT
I want to believe. Annie is probably just hiding her emotions, but I think it makes sense for her to be asexual for some reason. I agree with you. It's all too easy for me to see Annie as asexual. I am asexual myself, and so far Annie has not done or said anything that I would not have done or said. I relate to her a lot. Growing up, my asexuality did not precluded romantic(ish) interest in people, a desire for intimacy or nonsexual affection, or intense curiosity about sex. (My interest in sex diminished once my curiosity was satisfied.) I did not even fully recognize my asexuality until I was in my twenties. I don't believe, however, that Tom is intentionally writing Annie to be asexual. That would... that would be too nice of a thing. We clearly see in annie in the forest that Annie has a thing for Kamlen. I don't think Annie is asexual. It that one chapter that I don't remember the name of where they sneak out and Annie tricks Jack it also looks like Annie has some thing for Jack. |
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Post by lit on Jul 27, 2014 13:43:04 GMT
I agree with you. It's all too easy for me to see Annie as asexual. I am asexual myself, and so far Annie has not done or said anything that I would not have done or said. I relate to her a lot. Growing up, my asexuality did not precluded romantic(ish) interest in people, a desire for intimacy or nonsexual affection, or intense curiosity about sex. (My interest in sex diminished once my curiosity was satisfied.) I did not even fully recognize my asexuality until I was in my twenties. I don't believe, however, that Tom is intentionally writing Annie to be asexual. That would... that would be too nice of a thing. We clearly see in annie in the forest that Annie has a thing for Kamlen. I don't think Annie is asexual. It that one chapter that I don't remember the name of where they sneak out and Annie tricks Jack it also looks like Annie has some thing for Jack. Well, yeah. I know about Annie and Kamlen. I know about Annie and Jack. That doesn't change anything for me. I am a 100% asexual person but I have still had crushes on people. Really super intense crushes. They just did not have a sexual element. There's not just one way to be asexual. |
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Post by mglvna on Jul 27, 2014 15:14:53 GMT
If I remember Annie In the Forest correctly, Annie was specifically asked for a boys name, and literally just picked Jack as the most fitting and likely candidate off a list of Boys I Know. To me, that doesn't really say that she likes him, but that Liking Boys is something her peers expect her to do, so she goes along with the idea in order to fit in and gain approval from the other forest kids. The advice they give her pretty much explains her behavior in Faraway Morning. It's not exactly a strange thing for a teenager to do, especially one who doesn't have great social skills.
While she was definitely interested in Kamlen, I don't think that disproves the asexual headcanon at all, because romantic orientations are still a thing (though I may be biased, since I'm also ace.)
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 27, 2014 15:45:53 GMT
mglvna"I may be biased, since I am also ace." There's a difference between being biased, and informed with firsthand experience. That just makes your opining more worthwhile.
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Post by mglvna on Jul 27, 2014 16:02:41 GMT
I suppose so. At very least, nothing Annie's done relationship-wise is out of line with my experience. With the age-old society-wide story of teenage romance and all her friends beginning to date, how she acts towards Jack isn't all that surprising. There's plenty of doubt room if she's genuinely interested or just under pressure to fulfill expectations.
Besides, the Hyland heart is clearly taken. How can Annie ever POSSIBLY hope to compete with a grimy-eyed, sharp toothed demon who hardly showers, creates nightmare worlds, and already has a girlfriend?
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Post by warrl on Jul 27, 2014 17:21:58 GMT
Some people seem to think that if you're asexual, you're also aromantic.
That is not the case.
It is pretty trivially not the case with, say, a large (perhaps majority) share of 8- to 10-year-olds, but it's also not the case for adults.
And a lot of teenagers are trying to figure out what they are *themselves*, so mixed signals are to be expected.
I'm quite convinced that Annie is *not* aromantic. And she hasn't shown signs of being transgender or genderfluid. Aside from that, undetermined.
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Post by elementalfoxgoddess on Jul 27, 2014 18:47:49 GMT
I don't remember if I saw anything in the comic that could possibly point to that? That never stops anyone from shipping. So true! LAUGHING ON LINE! Any other pairing that you like besides that one? |
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Post by lit on Jul 27, 2014 19:38:00 GMT
There's this interesting moment between Annie and Kat here. Annie has just come out of Zimmingham and is touching Kat to make sure she is real. Kat has no idea why Annie is touching her. They have this whole wide-eyed mutual freaked out touching going on. Question marks above Kat's head. A few pages later, Kat helps Annie into the carriage and they stay holding hands longer than they need to. More question marks above Kat's head, but now she has a slightly pleased expression and she's looking at their handhold. I'm doing it folks I'm shipping Annie and Kat. |
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Post by Elysium on Jul 27, 2014 19:55:26 GMT
I'm doing it folks I'm shipping Annie and Kat.  |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Jul 27, 2014 22:28:52 GMT
There's this interesting moment between Annie and Kat here. Annie has just come out of Zimmingham and is touching Kat to make sure she is real. Kat has no idea why Annie is touching her. They have this whole wide-eyed mutual freaked out touching going on. Question marks above Kat's head. A few pages later, Kat helps Annie into the carriage and they stay holding hands longer than they need to. More question marks above Kat's head, but now she has a slightly pleased expression and she's looking at their handhold. I'm doing it folks I'm shipping Annie and Kat. Hahaha, and now I am on the asexual bandwagon. What a turnabout! I have always loved those pages you reference and feel it shows the tremendous bond of friendship between Annie and Kat. As well as the support shared between friends following a deep deep traumatic experience. (During a power outage at my work, I held hands with a co-worker who was stuck in a stairwell and was having just short of a panic attack. Trust me, it was non-sexual and non-romantic both ways, just me giving support to a friend who really needed it, as much as they needed guidance out of the dark.) |
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Post by Brother_Spartacus on Jul 28, 2014 1:09:09 GMT
I'm doing it folks I'm shipping Annie and Kat. Shortly after I started reading the comic I heard that there was a lesbian relationship and was certain that it was going to be Annie/Kat. Looking back, it's funny. |
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Post by hypixion on Jul 28, 2014 2:34:51 GMT
There's this interesting moment between Annie and Kat here. Annie has just come out of Zimmingham and is touching Kat to make sure she is real. Kat has no idea why Annie is touching her. They have this whole wide-eyed mutual freaked out touching going on. Question marks above Kat's head. A few pages later, Kat helps Annie into the carriage and they stay holding hands longer than they need to. More question marks above Kat's head, but now she has a slightly pleased expression and she's looking at their handhold. I'm doing it folks I'm shipping Annie and Kat. I've liked Annie/kat for a while I still do actually, I usuallu ship characters with multiple characters. I'm like, she fits together with her, but also kind of with him. You know, because it's not like people only have one type or something. |
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Post by Elysium on Jul 28, 2014 7:23:58 GMT
Okay, so now that the situation is more clear, let's take a look at the battlefield:
Kaz: smooth sailing, killstreak medal (Kannie, Kalistair, Patt, Eaglekat)
Smirley: smooth sailing
Shadowbot: smooth sailing
Willinet: smooth sailing
Margohn: afloat, cloudy whether ahead
Zimma: sailing, whatever that means
Bled: sailing, sorta
Jannie: heavy damage taken
Reynannie: leaking, but still afloat, somewhat
Jimmy: one-shot'd out of nowhere by the Janny
Janny: New player who already has a kill
Mattmoon: MIA
Patt: Sunk by the Mattmoon, and the Kaz finished it with submarine grenades
Kannie: destroyed by combined fire of the Kaz and the Jannie
Kalistair: Tomperdo'd
Sarrannie: on dry dock
Eaglekat: on dry dock when the Kaz blew up the gates, probably for the better
Roboxbot: OTP
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Post by Chancellor on Jul 28, 2014 7:29:24 GMT
Ay scrub, Kat/Annie may be down, but not out.
Ship ain't sunk till the wreck's been dragged up and sold for scrap.
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