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Post by download on May 29, 2013 4:26:29 GMT
Why are YOU talking like THIS? you put the emPHAsis on the wrong syLLAble That would be my job |
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Post by Søren on May 29, 2013 5:05:18 GMT
YES! I knew it! I knew it would happen!
In your FACE anti-shippers! This one has set sail!
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Post by hargharg on May 29, 2013 5:47:41 GMT
Who knows? Like some have said, this seemed to go awfully smoothly, almost suspiciously so. Not to mention that the "Letter was not from Bobby" was not exactly the most... imaginative twist. Then again, it might just be paranoia. You can NEVER be paranoid enough. : ) |
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Post by TBeholder on May 29, 2013 5:59:46 GMT
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Post by yarksie on May 29, 2013 6:37:32 GMT
Oh why won't the clock speed up. I'd laugh if the bonus page is a reaction shot instead.
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Post by download on May 29, 2013 6:44:56 GMT
For the bonus page my money is on either the letter or Kat explaining things to Annie
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Post by The Anarch on May 29, 2013 6:45:54 GMT
It'll be an extreme closeup of Kat's happy, blushy face.
There will be no survivors.
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Post by mcbibble on May 29, 2013 8:25:37 GMT
For the bonus page my money is on either the letter or Kat explaining things to Annie Oh man, that'll be way to big of a deal to have in a bonus comic. Even if she's perfectly supportive and happy, that's still pretty important in plot terms. |
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Post by TBeholder on May 29, 2013 8:38:34 GMT
Wake up, wake up! It's already online.  |
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Post by melkior on May 29, 2013 8:56:18 GMT
Next page is up. It went up while I was reading the 1000+ comments and I found out when I tried to reload the page to see exactly how many comments it had gathered. ;-)
I'm laughing at both the insane shipping and the insane hatred of the supposed lesbianism.
Paz said "I know you and Annie are just friends" (or something like that), so I interpret her approach to Kat as "I want us to have the same relationship as you and Annie have".
Sure, it's a little awkward because it's at least semi-romantic, but I don't see any lesbianism in the comic. Maybe something will develop later, but at this stage it's just good friends.
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Post by TBeholder on May 29, 2013 9:13:18 GMT
What, you don't see "... yeah. okay." as a decisive enthusiastic dive into something more than a proposal to "stop worrying and see what would happen?" backed up with maximum power of Puppy Dog Eyes?
Hmm... me neither.
I'm not a shipper, though.
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Post by Toloc on May 29, 2013 9:30:21 GMT
Regardless of the gender of both writer and recipient:
I'd find a "hey, let's be BFFs!"-letter way more weird than a love letter. In principle I mean. Who does that?
And even if it was the former, why would Kat reject Bobbie then, especially quoting the Rules as a reason?
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Post by mcbibble on May 29, 2013 10:09:49 GMT
Next page is up. It went up while I was reading the 1000+ comments and I found out when I tried to reload the page to see exactly how many comments it had gathered. ;-) I'm laughing at both the insane shipping and the insane hatred of the supposed lesbianism. Paz said "I know you and Annie are just friends" (or something like that), so I interpret her approach to Kat as "I want us to have the same relationship as you and Annie have". Sure, it's a little awkward because it's at least semi-romantic, but I don't see any lesbianism in the comic. Maybe something will develop later, but at this stage it's just good friends. That's quite a stretch, don't you think? Kat and Annie both described it as a Love letter, therefore it must have an overture of love in it. Paz writes her a love letter, tells her she thinks she's lovely and then asks if she would like to go out some time. Now, I don't know how you go about developing new friendships, but I feel I should warn you that if you do this people might find it a bit weird. |
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Post by snipertom on May 29, 2013 11:52:15 GMT
Let's pretend for a moment that Paz has been replaced by [some guy] and that everything is identical in this comic chapter.
Guy: Did bobby talk to you about the letter?
Kat: yeah, poor guy, the only time I get a love letter and it's from a robot!
Guy: Oh, he didn't tell you?
Kat: Tell me what?
Guy: Do you remember the time we all went out? When you were so nice to me? I kept thinking about that night... and thinking about you. Then I heard you and Annie were moving into the same room and I was surprised at how jealous I was! I wanted to tell you how I felt but I couldn't even do that... so I ask bobby to write a letter for me.... the letter was from me, Kat.
Kat: you...
Guy: I know you and Annie are just friends! I can't explain why I felt what I did.
Kat: But...
Guy: These past few months have been a little difficult
Kat: I...
Guy: Thinking and worrying, over and over...
Kat: huh
Guy: But I meant what I said in the letter, Kat. I think you are so smart and funny and so kind. And I decide to stop worrying and see what would happen! So I... just wanted to let you know.
Kat: Guy...
Guy: And maybe... if you wanted... we could go out some time? together?
Kat *blushes and smiles*: ...yeah.. ok...
*They hold hands*
I can't see how that could be read as anything other than a confession of romantic feelings/crush and an acceptance of a date. FYI, I've never had a platonic female friend of mine ever "confess their feelings" of platonic friendship like that, and none of my straight female friends have had any sort of interaction like that either.
Also, say it was a guy who admitted his feelings and Kat said yes and looked happy? i would totally still be happy for Kat because, well, she's a believable character I care about, and happy! I find it odd that being straight would for some people mean that they can't be happy for Kat. Obviously sometimes we react to things in fiction in ways that aren't logically explainable (for some reason I'm finding this butch lesbian character in "blue place" by nicola griffith INCREDIBLY difficult to believe or empathise with and I find her kind of annoying) but I think it's important to do some self-introspection in that case and work out what it is exactly that is making us unhappy or uncomfortable.
I do stand by my long-standing criticism of the whole Dora/Marten thing in Questionable Content that meant that I stopped reading it, ie that they were a gross overcompensating couple, hehe.
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Post by TBeholder on May 29, 2013 12:56:29 GMT
Let's pretend for a moment that Paz has been replaced by [some guy] and that everything is identical in this comic chapter. Or rather... let's replace Kat with some guy who already told Paz once that nope, he is not flirting with her? For example... Matt? I can see this scene with him and Paz the evening before the Faraway Morning, for one. Guy: Do you remember the time we all went out? When you were so nice to me? I kept thinking about that night... and thinking about you. Then I heard you and Annie were moving into the same room and I was surprised at how jealous I was! I wanted to tell you how I felt but I couldn't even do that... so I ask bobby to write a letter for me.... the letter was from me, Kat. (Kat: looks surprised) (Kat: leans away) Guy: I know you and Annie are just friends! I can't explain why I felt what I did. (Kat: looks stunned) Kat: But... Guy: These past few months have been a little difficult Kat: I... Guy: Thinking and worrying, over and over... Kat: huh Guy: But I meant what I said in the letter, Kat. I think you are so smart and funny and so kind. And I decide to stop worrying and see what would happen! So I... just wanted to let you know. Kat: Guy... (Kat: still not moving, with a sad face, looking down) Guy: And maybe... if you wanted... we could go out some time? together? ...(Guy: makes Puppy Dog Eyes)... Let's not forget all the little inconvenient details? |
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Post by snipertom on May 29, 2013 13:24:40 GMT
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Post by melkior on May 29, 2013 15:55:17 GMT
Okay, so I could be wrong. I'm just saying, I think both the shippers and the haters are jumping the gun.
And even if this is a romance, I'd put it in the "puppy love" classification until and unless proven otherwise.
But perhaps I should also mention that I'm enjoying those Puppy-Dog Eyes at least as much as the shippers? :-)
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Post by snipertom on May 29, 2013 16:05:58 GMT
Oh yeah, there's no doubt that this is one of them adolescent thingys that may amount to very little in the long run.
I am glad you are not immune to the puppydogeyes! they're amazing!
(perhaps not as amazing as a floating octopus, but still...)
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Post by Steam Engine on May 29, 2013 16:07:24 GMT
aww, how could anyone forget Puppy Dog Eyes I don't like her face on the picture. It is... not innocently cute anymore. This face may be suitable if Kat is already lying on her, but in conversation it looks inappropriate for me. But I blame Siddell who couldn't have drawn Paz's cuteness correctly. |
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Post by TBeholder on May 29, 2013 16:14:27 GMT
Cool. Which stage of Tolkienism is "the Professor was wrong!", does anyone remember? |
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Post by philman on May 29, 2013 17:14:01 GMT
Dear god people are over-thinking this thing.
Seriously people, THEY ARE 14! Whether this is going to turn out well or not we don't know at this point, how many of us weren't massively confused about all their new feelings at that age? And how many of us stumbled over their words and have said things in the spur of the moment. We have no idea whether Kat will go away and immediately regret it, saying yes only because she was shocked, or whether she will go away, think about her feelings and realise she had been thinking about it for ages as well. And we've hardly seen Paz since the faraway morning anyway, so we've no hints as to what was going on in her head all that time.
As for those who think it was a platonic offer from Paz, both Kat and Annie have described it as a love letter, which seems fairly unambiguous to me. And Paz's line about 'I KNOW you and annie are just friends' sounds exactly like someone who has seen their crush with someone else and gotten jealous. Why else would the word 'just' be in there?
I personally think this is a really well written comic, and I love the throwing predictions at the dartboard nature of the forums (Although only joined the forums during the revelation of what Jones is storyline, to try and work out what was going on). But this trying to outright deny what is going on in the comic just because you don't remember the embarrassment and awkwardness of relationships at the start of puberty were like is really getting irritating.
Young teenage relationships are awkward, they are not hollywood love stories.
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Post by The Anarch on May 29, 2013 17:26:58 GMT
Yep, this relationship, like pretty much all others, is doomed to end someday. And lest we forget, at some point both Paz and Kat are both going to die. Their society and civilization will crumble and be replaced several times over, and all of their accomplishments - should they ever manage to have any significant ones - will eventually be worn away and forgotten, lost in the sands of time. And eventually, the heat death of the universe will ensure that nothing at all remains of any of us.
So don't be happy for this brief, fleeting moment in time when things are good! For the future is full of endings, and time will eventually come for us all.
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Post by ryrmyrbyr on May 29, 2013 17:34:46 GMT
There are 5 possible reactions to this comic:
75% Exlclaim "It's adorable!"
5% Say "I wonder what the implications will be in the greater plot..."
5% Say "I am extremely disappointed Tom Siddell. I am never reading Gunnerkrigg ever again and I am deleting all my bookmarks."
5% are in denial. They may justify their denial by pointing out that Kat was always interested in boys.
5% write essays and have long arguments on the hints and lead ups to this comic.
And then 50% of all people curse the author and say "Dammit Tom, you've trolled us by not subverting our expectations!"
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Post by sunday on May 29, 2013 17:47:04 GMT
I try to remember what was in my head when I was their age and I can't think of anything. Anything that makes sense, at least. And five years later I am getting so confused about everything that it makes my head explode. What I'm trying to say is they may be even too smart for their age but they are still teenagers, and they need to learn stuff, and explore their own mind, and be stupid, and basically do whatever they feel like doing as long as it's not hurting anyone. It's not a big deal and I really don't understand why is this bothering so many people in so many ways (also just in: this is a webcomic and they are not real and this is a wonderful story not a reason to fight guuuise) |
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Post by rolandofgilead on May 29, 2013 18:13:37 GMT
Next page is up. It went up while I was reading the 1000+ comments and I found out when I tried to reload the page to see exactly how many comments it had gathered. ;-) I'm laughing at both the insane shipping and the insane hatred of the supposed lesbianism. Paz said "I know you and Annie are just friends" (or something like that), so I interpret her approach to Kat as "I want us to have the same relationship as you and Annie have". Sure, it's a little awkward because it's at least semi-romantic, but I don't see any lesbianism in the comic. Maybe something will develop later, but at this stage it's just good friends. "Lesbianism." Sounds like the scientific study of lesbians. |
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Post by atteSmythe on May 29, 2013 18:36:59 GMT
Ah! Where's that guy that went all nuclear during Faraway Morning? It's almost enough to make me head back to SA and see where the GK appreciation thread has gone in the last couple years...
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Post by ryrmyrbyr on May 29, 2013 18:57:13 GMT
Next page is up. It went up while I was reading the 1000+ comments and I found out when I tried to reload the page to see exactly how many comments it had gathered. ;-) I'm laughing at both the insane shipping and the insane hatred of the supposed lesbianism. Paz said "I know you and Annie are just friends" (or something like that), so I interpret her approach to Kat as "I want us to have the same relationship as you and Annie have". Sure, it's a little awkward because it's at least semi-romantic, but I don't see any lesbianism in the comic. Maybe something will develop later, but at this stage it's just good friends. "Lesbianism." Sounds like the scientific study of lesbians. It's like Humanism, only with lesbians. "Lesbianism is a group of philosophies and ethical perspectives which emphasize the value and agency of lesbians." |
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Post by snipertom on May 29, 2013 20:14:10 GMT
"Lesbianism." Sounds like the scientific study of lesbians. It's like Humanism, only with lesbians. "Lesbianism is a group of philosophies and ethical perspectives which emphasize the value and agency of lesbians." how dare they! Soon we'll be flooded with Sapphists, which as we all know, are people who have sex with other Sapphists. |
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Post by The Anarch on May 29, 2013 20:20:19 GMT
Damn homogenized thespians! We don't need them hanging around, licking Libya and munching carports!
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Post by emanon on May 29, 2013 20:24:59 GMT
Kat being my favorite and as much as I like them together, it just doesn't seem like anything other than Kat going along with it because she doesn't want to hurt Paz's feelings. Not a good sign for a relationship. :\
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