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TicToc
Jan 29, 2007 3:07:32 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Jan 29, 2007 3:07:32 GMT
She may have stumbled upon the information somewhere in the court also.
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TicToc
Jan 30, 2007 1:48:04 GMT
Post by owl on Jan 30, 2007 1:48:04 GMT
Do we actually know that Gamma is a telepath? So far as we have seen, yes, she can speak telepathically to Zimmy, but that could just as easily be Zimmy herself, unconsciously, or some sort of bond between them. We've never seen her speak to anyone else, right? Mind to mind, I mean?
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TicToc
Jan 30, 2007 1:55:13 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Jan 30, 2007 1:55:13 GMT
I haven't seen any sign that she is telepathic with anybody but Zimmy.
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TicToc
Jan 30, 2007 2:20:49 GMT
Post by alexthegreater on Jan 30, 2007 2:20:49 GMT
Well I was just saying that she learned it form Zimmy.
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clyon
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TicToc
Jan 30, 2007 2:26:55 GMT
Post by clyon on Jan 30, 2007 2:26:55 GMT
Zimmy and Gamma have probably been at the court for some time longer than Antimony has. The "Thousand Eyes" thing could just be some slang term that the students applied to what appears to be a kind of omniscient and really mysterious and questionable surveillance system.
I kinda doubt the manner of the name really holds all that much information. It probably could have been called anything else, like, "creepy mechanical birds," or something. Only that does not sound nearly as cool.
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TicToc
Jan 30, 2007 2:29:42 GMT
Post by alexthegreater on Jan 30, 2007 2:29:42 GMT
I would have called them the Tick Tock Birds or the ticking birds but thats just me.
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TicToc
Jan 30, 2007 5:18:54 GMT
Post by Aspen d'Grey on Jan 30, 2007 5:18:54 GMT
They can't have been at the court all THAT longer than Antimony, as this is the first term that students are at GC, according to Tea in the first bonus page.
*First YEAR, possibly not the first term.
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TicToc
Feb 13, 2007 19:36:17 GMT
Post by mrw on Feb 13, 2007 19:36:17 GMT
One thing that kind of bugs me about the TicTocs as a remote camera system is the lack of reaction by anyone when they the TicTocs witness an event. I know I was pushing this idea before, but now I'm not so sure.
1) Zimmy throws a stick at one of them, and no-one comes to investigate.
2) No one seemed to know that Annie was paying Reynardine a visit in the large animal holding cell, even though a TicToc witnessed her. (Seems like Eglamore was already there for some other reason, and was able to save Annie because he heard them talking or something after he left. It didn't seem like he was expecting her.)
3) I think we concluded it was the audible alarm that brought Eglamore running when Annie left school grounds. The TicToc didn't react until Annie was in grave danger and/or some force from outside the school revealed itself.
4) The TicTocs saved Annie, but no-one appeared to know about it. It is also interesting that their primary interest was Annie, not the "intruder".
Counter-arguments: Against #1) Maybe "they" already know about Zimmy's tendency to have outbursts.
Against #3) Whoever monitors the TicTocs may have chosen to not report anything, especially since the Court has other effective alarm systems.
Against #4) Mr. Donlan helped Kat build her antigrav ship. It seems kind of doubtful that he would have let her go and find Annie's broken, lifeless body all by herself, unless he had some idea she may have survived the fall.
From #3 and #4, I can postulate that the TicTocs may be some sort of system designed at least in part to protect Annie in times of dire need. Mr. Donlan strikes me as capable of building them, perhaps for Anthony, who likely knew Annie would need protecting while he was away on his "business". We have indications that Zimmy simply hates things looking at her, and the name "thousand eyes" could mean nothing more than "they are everywhere." There is no sign one way or the other that the TicTocs have always been there, (Edit 2) and as someone pointed out, this is the first year that GC has been a school anyway. To me, it is conceivable that Anthony and company could have been planning ahead for Annie's attendance and invariable safety concerns.
Another point of view is that the TicTocs purpose is solely to detect the infiltration of certain evil beings, at which time they sound the alarm. All other times, they may just sit idly by. Saving Annie could just be a coincidental priority - a little extra software, so to speak: "if someone falls of the bridge, catch 'em".
It is also interesting that Eglamore knew to bring that particular weapon, as if he was expecting something from Gillitie Wood which could only be harmed by that sword. Do you suppose the sword always glows, or only in the presence of certain enemies? It's interesting he keeps it under wraps (literally) all the time.
Edit: ...ooh, that's a loooong post...
Edit 2: Sorry ...brainfart.
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TicToc
Feb 13, 2007 20:22:05 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 13, 2007 20:22:05 GMT
Remember that they could be a surveillance system that reports to someone other than Eglamore. Perhaps a Principal fgure, who decides to enlighten his underlings when he dees it necessary? He could have told Eglamore to bring that particular weapon.
Though I like this idea:
That's pretty plausible, to me. I think Anthony was pretty well connected in the school.
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TicToc
Feb 13, 2007 23:16:00 GMT
Post by todd on Feb 13, 2007 23:16:00 GMT
There is no sign one way or the other that the TicTocs have always been there, and as someone pointed out, this is the first year that GC has been a school anyway. I thought that this was just Annie's first year at the school, not the first year that it had been a school - and that Gunnerkrigg was where Annie and Kat's parents and Mr. Eglamore had gone when they were children.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 0:19:29 GMT
Post by Aspen d'Grey on Feb 14, 2007 0:19:29 GMT
I think MRW meant that this is the first year these students will have been at this school- like how in US Middle Schools the first 'year' is 6th grade.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 0:39:46 GMT
Post by UbiquitousDragon on Feb 14, 2007 0:39:46 GMT
I think MRW meant that this is the first year these students will have been at this school- like how in US Middle Schools the first 'year' is 6th grade. The UK system is weird. Depending on what school you go to it might be called Year 7 (shortened to Y7) and/or first year as it's the first year of secondary school. Hope that's of some help. I also think "postulate" should be used more often in general conversation.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 2:17:45 GMT
Post by mrw on Feb 14, 2007 2:17:45 GMT
I think MRW meant that this is the first year these students will have been at this school- like how in US Middle Schools the first 'year' is 6th grade. Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt, Aspen. Unfortunately it was just a screwup. I think postulate my brain jumped a groove while I was reading about the years. I corrected my original post.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 2:53:28 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 14, 2007 2:53:28 GMT
"postulate" is cool because it's both a noun and a verb!
I postulate that that is a good postulate, mrw. I also postulate that we all screw up.
It does seem to me that the Tic-Tocs have been there for a while at least. All the teachers seem to be used to them, and it's not like "hey what are those weird bird things always flyin' around?" among the students.
Though if it is most of the way through the school year, that would account for that.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 2:56:36 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Feb 14, 2007 2:56:36 GMT
Zimmy, Gamma, and Annie have seen/interacted with the birds, but the none of the other students seem to have any contact with them, they might not even be aware that the Tic-Toc's are there.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:03:15 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 14, 2007 3:03:15 GMT
Hmm...That hadn't occured to me. They're so interesting that I didn't think they could be missed, but the Court is a shadowy and confusing place. You're right!
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:12:23 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Feb 14, 2007 3:12:23 GMT
Does anybody remember if Kat has seen the Tic-Tocs? If she hasn't then they are only visible to people with strong connections to the Paranormal, Zimmy Gamma and Annie.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:22:43 GMT
Post by mrw on Feb 14, 2007 3:22:43 GMT
Very good question. I don't remember if Kat has seen them or not.
But the TicToc looks so much like a green toucan that it may not attract a whole lot of attention. Not that toucans are that common in the UK...
The toucan is physically nearly identical to the TicToc, but the coloring is different. Some toucans even have the sawtooth beaks.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:27:02 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Feb 14, 2007 3:27:02 GMT
I wonder if they might have some kind of cloaking Device, or some way of reaching into peoples minds and making them not see/ignore the Tic-Tocs.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:31:48 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 14, 2007 3:31:48 GMT
*Goes rummaging* She may have seen them on the Bridge....but maybe not. That would explain wy everyone was so sure Annie was dead...if no one saw that the birds had gone after her.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:33:54 GMT
Post by mrw on Feb 14, 2007 3:33:54 GMT
Next question would be why "they" (whomever made the TicTocs) would bother making them look like birds if they could invisibility-cloak them. Suppose it could be just that's the best flight-ready design they had.
Edit: Also, Kat was pretty far away. The TicTocs probably just looked like dots.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:35:34 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 14, 2007 3:35:34 GMT
Yeah, but why creepy ticking zombie birds? Maybe they wanted those who could see them to be creeped out for some reason? Or maybe think that they're part of whatever other hallucinations they have (in the case of Zimmy) or that they're normal (in the case of Annie).
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:37:09 GMT
Post by mrw on Feb 14, 2007 3:37:09 GMT
Why do you call them "zombie" birds? (I just never got that impression, that's all)
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:39:22 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Feb 14, 2007 3:39:22 GMT
Creepy Zombie birds are not only cool, but they are also intriguing. If you wanted somebody to come and investigate something, you don't make it look like a normal bird, or a piece of wall, or a basketball, or a bed... You want it to stand out enough that it catches the attention of the person you want and just annoys everybody else.
They could be a trap.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:41:30 GMT
Post by mrw on Feb 14, 2007 3:41:30 GMT
oooh, follow the birdie! I can just see Annie doing that! She's fearless...
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:49:34 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Feb 14, 2007 3:49:34 GMT
That trap would have to be like a pit of spikes or some other mechanical thing, if some monstrous thing were to charge at her she would just start asking it about it's personal life and gain a new friend.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 3:58:25 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 14, 2007 3:58:25 GMT
Yeah. As long as it's designed for her, and not Zimmy or Gamma or someone.
Not sure why I call 'em Zombie birds...I think it's the colors. The beaks, maybe?
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 18:12:28 GMT
Post by rastarogue on Feb 14, 2007 18:12:28 GMT
Maybe creepy-ticking-robot birds would be more exact.
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TicToc
Feb 14, 2007 20:05:25 GMT
Post by owl on Feb 14, 2007 20:05:25 GMT
Yeah. I wasna really trying to be exact, tho.
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Feb 14, 2007 23:14:34 GMT
Post by todd on Feb 14, 2007 23:14:34 GMT
That trap would have to be like a pit of spikes or some other mechanical thing, if some monstrous thing were to charge at her she would just start asking it about it's personal life and gain a new friend. Well, in most cases. There's always the possibility that the "monstrous thing" might be as unwilling to talk as the Ghost Girl with the Sword.
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