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Post by SilverbackRon on Dec 9, 2013 23:54:42 GMT
I meant I hope he'll be awesome despite what he's done to her. I'd like to see him have some grand higher purpose he's been working on this whole time which will force us to decide whether his character can be redeemed. A case of karmic balance, delicately teetering between complete monster and guardian angel. Abandon your child to save her? Can we condone such actions? Aaaah it would be so complicated and cool. Above all though the dudes got a bitchin' magic satellite and I don't think there's any way that's not kickass. It would be nice if there was some sort of redemption for Anthony after all of this. Considering so far at least he seems like a world-class jerk. Antimony does try to defend him or shift the blame to herself, or at least get angry when someone speaks ill of him. He is after all, her father. She does love him. Is he worthy of that love? We shall see. (In about 60 more chapters! ) Meanwhile she has a more pressing issue of her love (platonic) for Kat and what these changes will mean. I am so glad there seems to be no homophobia involved, just her worries about her changing world. I think Kat will offer some wise words of her own to set Annie's mind at ease. I don't think they will stop being roomies. That would be weird for Kat to move in with Paz, especially at this young age. I think that would be moving a relationship WAY to far forward. Right now they are just sharing some nice smoochies. Kat will let Annie know that although Paz is her girlfriend, Annie is still her number one friend.
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Post by Covalent on Dec 9, 2013 23:58:56 GMT
So, essentially, she wasn't worried at all about Kat being with Paz?
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Post by SilverbackRon on Dec 10, 2013 0:01:19 GMT
So, essentially, she wasn't worried at all about Kat being with Paz? It depends on your definition of worried. Not worried in a homophobic way. Not worried is a jilted lover way. Just worried she is losing her friend. At least that is how I see it.
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Post by Fhqwhgads on Dec 10, 2013 0:06:33 GMT
At this point I'm thinking the huge showdown won't be Court vs. Forest so much as Anthony apologists vs. Anthony haters. (for the record I have my artillery spot all picked out) 20131209, calling it today. Anthony's actually the villain of the whole piece. The showdown's going to be between Annie and HER DAD. </cue schadenfreude>
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Post by KMar on Dec 10, 2013 1:06:34 GMT
At this point I'm thinking the huge showdown won't be Court vs. Forest so much as Anthony apologists vs. Anthony haters. (for the record I have my artillery spot all picked out) 20131209, calling it today. Anthony's actually the villain of the whole piece. The showdown's going to be between Annie and HER DAD. </cue schadenfreude> YES. I can totally see it: Annie is the apologist. By of course, Anthony hates himself. HIGH DRAMA! Also, I read mega-showdown first as a mecha-showdown. Not sure what should I make of that.
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 10, 2013 1:14:59 GMT
20131209, calling it today. Anthony's actually the villain of the whole piece. The showdown's going to be between Annie and HER DAD. </cue schadenfreude> YES. I can totally see it: Annie is the apologist. By of course, Anthony hates himself. HIGH DRAMA! Also, I read mega-showdown first as a mecha-showdown. Not sure what should I make of that. Well, there's Kat. Perhaps Chuckles would be the forest's equivalent?
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Post by nero on Dec 10, 2013 1:47:56 GMT
Kat is Annie's most normal friend, she needs her to keep grounded. I'm sure Kat will reassure Annie that she'll be there for her when she needs it most.
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Post by chaosvii on Dec 10, 2013 1:59:19 GMT
I'm surprised more people don't relate to this more deeply. I've had this exact conversation before (on Annie's end), and I still have this problem sometimes, despite being some kind of adultish-type thing. As for me, I... don't know what to say. What Annie says is true. Kat will one day leave her. Their relationship will not be the same if any of them has someone else as number one in her life. So if Kat's och Paz's relationship will last, it means a great difference for Annie, and not for the better.
I've also been in Annie's position. It is not funny. I used to share an apartment with my best friend when we were students. Then he fell in love with a girl, they got married and moved in with each other, and I... well, read today's comic page. Of course, we are still friends, but it's not the kind of relationship we used to have. This reminds me of a poem by Charles Hanson Towne. (With handy illustration here) Around The CornerAround the corner I have a friend,
In this great city that has no end,
Yet the days go by and weeks rush on,
And before I know it, a year is gone.
And I never see my old friends face,
For life is a swift and terrible race,
He knows I like him just as well,
As in the days when I rang his bell.
And he rang mine but we were younger then,
And now we are busy, tired men.
Tired of playing a foolish game,
Tired of trying to make a name.
"Tomorrow" I say! "I will call on Jim
Just to show that I'm thinking of him",
But tomorrow comes and tomorrow goes,
And distance between us grows and grows.
Around the corner, yet miles away,
"Here's a telegram sir," "Jim died today."
And that's what we get and deserve in the end.
Around the corner, a vanished friend.
There is a unique misery that comes with not having enough time for one's friends. I see this as Annie preempting this sort of feeling of growing apart at current, she recognizes that people have limited time and mad science to do, and feels that if her own father must leave her, then Kat too will find a reason important enough to leave too.
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Post by fishtie on Dec 10, 2013 2:53:40 GMT
20131209, calling it today. Anthony's actually the villain of the whole piece. The showdown's going to be between Annie and HER DAD. </cue schadenfreude> YES. I can totally see it: Annie is the apologist. By of course, Anthony hates himself. HIGH DRAMA! Also, I read mega-showdown first as a mecha-showdown. Not sure what should I make of that. I would like to call a mulligan and use your version instead. That's allowed, right?
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 10, 2013 2:57:27 GMT
I would like to call a mulligan... That's allowed, right? Only if you reset the que ball. Also, I read mega-showdown first as a mecha-showdown. Not sure what should I make of that. Well, you're half right at least. Kat is the mecha, and Annie is the tower of living flame.
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Post by fwip on Dec 10, 2013 3:09:04 GMT
Dangit, the posting schedule is perfectly orchestrated so that I don't see the comic for at least 16 hours after it's posted. I totally support Annie not being a jerk in any way, shape or form in this comic! Also, the body language is great here. I can totally relate to looking everywhere and hoping they don't wonder why you're not looking at them. prediction (I get cookies if correct, right?) Kat acknowledges Annie's fears, but reassures her that it won't happen any time soon. Long term prediction: There's no way I could see Kat and Annie becoming not-friends, for whatever reason, ever, because that would involve Tom a) removing one from the comic (probably Kat) b) writing them seperately c) writing them as constantly at odds, or at least cold towards each other.
Also, I expected the opening post on this thread to be " Not for a while, I hope."
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Post by zimmyhoo on Dec 10, 2013 3:10:36 GMT
Well, you're half right at least. Kat is the mecha, and Annie is the tower of living flame. Well said.
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Post by fwip on Dec 10, 2013 3:10:46 GMT
I would like to call a mulligan... That's allowed, right? Only if you reset the que ball. As long as he didn't hit any other balls, too. So yeah, go ahead.
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Post by zimmyhoo on Dec 10, 2013 3:18:38 GMT
CRACK THEORY INCOMING THAT IS TOTALLY NOT A REPOST:
Annie is Egger's daughter. Anthony didn't know it until Surma started getting sick, because he worked on himself to make it so that his child wouldn't suck Surma's fire. He still loved her, but as Surma died, he started viewing Annie as somebody he had no connection with who was killing Surma, largely because he didn't want to hate Surma. He knew that he couldn't come back to the court, so now he's wherever, trying to figure out some way to prevent Annie from getting child doused, except on from her end - he knows he can't control who she decides to sleep with. Expect awkwardness when he tries to give to her.
CRACK THEORY MISSED US AND HEADED INTO THE NEAREST BLACK HOLE RETURN TO YOUR POSTS
... *ba dum pish*
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Post by sapientcoffee on Dec 10, 2013 3:23:21 GMT
1. No hugs, thanks, though. Please don't misconstrue my tone to mean abject hatred towards a believably distant fictional personality. More, still, I'm attempting to place absurdity on the idea that we should consider folks who have absolutely no interaction with her to be more important COMPARED to characters that are visibly having an impact on her growth and development. Don't give the man too much credit, there are other people there that've done her some good. 2. "that, arguably, makes him the most important person in your life because you'll..." Semantics to the forefront of this point, you never said 'may become' the most important person, you took a hypothetical anecdote that you fitted with absolutist remarks. 3. If it's true that Tony's impact on her is the 'most important' because it happened earliest in her life, I'd still argue that her mother is more influential than Anthony ever could be. Annie walked her into oblivion/the ether/whatever shortly after she learned what death actually was. That's pretty traumatic. 4. Extrapolating is fine, I feel sympathy for your own personal life even without proper details given. 5. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to agree/disagree with. Your extrapolation? That's perfectly fine, we rationalize and adapt our thinking on an hourly basis. 6. I am a silly thing, thank you for noticing. Satellites rule. Yeah, geez basser. Everybody knows absentee fathers don't have any impact on their kids. /sarcasm /hyperbole
We now return you to regular scheduled posting.
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Post by fishtie on Dec 10, 2013 3:23:41 GMT
CRACK THEORY INCOMING THAT IS TOTALLY NOT A REPOST: Annie is Egger's daughter. Anthony didn't know it until Surma started getting sick, because he worked on himself to make it so that his child wouldn't suck Surma's fire. He still loved her, but as Surma died, he started viewing Annie as somebody he had no connection with who was killing Surma, largely because he didn't want to hate Surma. He knew that he couldn't come back to the court, so now he's wherever, trying to figure out some way to prevent Annie from getting child doused, except on from her end - he knows he can't control who she decides to sleep with. Expect awkwardness when he tries to give to her. CRACK THEORY MISSED US AND HEADED INTO THE NEAREST BLACK HOLE RETURN TO YOUR POSTS ... *ba dum pish* Anthony: "Oh? You want to marry my daughter? What do you think about children?" *reveals syringe and scalpel*
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Post by fwip on Dec 10, 2013 3:26:30 GMT
CRACK THEORY INCOMING THAT IS TOTALLY NOT A REPOST: Annie is Egger's daughter. Anthony didn't know it until Surma started getting sick, because he worked on himself to make it so that his child wouldn't suck Surma's fire. He still loved her, but as Surma died, he started viewing Annie as somebody he had no connection with who was killing Surma, largely because he didn't want to hate Surma. He knew that he couldn't come back to the court, so now he's wherever, trying to figure out some way to prevent Annie from getting child doused, except on from her end - he knows he can't control who she decides to sleep with. Expect awkwardness when he tries to give to her. CRACK THEORY MISSED US AND HEADED INTO THE NEAREST BLACK HOLE RETURN TO YOUR POSTS ... *ba dum pish* "doused" love it.
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Post by zimmyhoo on Dec 10, 2013 3:26:54 GMT
CRACK THEORY INCOMING THAT IS TOTALLY NOT A REPOST: Annie is Egger's daughter. Anthony didn't know it until Surma started getting sick, because he worked on himself to make it so that his child wouldn't suck Surma's fire. He still loved her, but as Surma died, he started viewing Annie as somebody he had no connection with who was killing Surma, largely because he didn't want to hate Surma. He knew that he couldn't come back to the court, so now he's wherever, trying to figure out some way to prevent Annie from getting child doused, except on from her end - he knows he can't control who she decides to sleep with. Expect awkwardness when he tries to give to her. CRACK THEORY MISSED US AND HEADED INTO THE NEAREST BLACK HOLE RETURN TO YOUR POSTS ... *ba dum pish* Anthony: "Oh? You want to marry my daughter? What do you think about children?" *reveals syringe and scalpel* ... he'd do that, wouldn't he.
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Post by fwip on Dec 10, 2013 3:49:55 GMT
What's the scalpel for?
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Post by warrl on Dec 10, 2013 4:05:26 GMT
Yeah, geez basser. Everybody knows absentee fathers don't have any impact on their kids. /sarcasm /hyperbole
We now return you to regular scheduled posting.Things aren't the same for every kid with an absentee parent, of course, but in my case my absentee mother was and is not very important to me at all. (But then, she was REALLY absentee. Not just emotionally distant. I actually remember seeing her only twice before my 15th birthday.)
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Post by GK Sierra on Dec 10, 2013 4:05:36 GMT
Only if you reset the que ball. As long as he didn't hit any other balls, too. So yeah, go ahead. Those damn table scratches... The bane of every tipsy billiard player's existence.
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Post by fwip on Dec 10, 2013 4:10:50 GMT
We have a homebuilt pool table at our house that's seen maybe 40 games. We changed the house rules so that table scratches don't exist and there's no penalty for normal scratches, except that the opponent gets to place the que ball as he chooses. We also made up a way to play 3 player 8 ball, without any 8 ball. (about what you expect.)
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Post by sapientcoffee on Dec 10, 2013 4:15:11 GMT
Yeah, geez basser. Everybody knows absentee fathers don't have any impact on their kids. /sarcasm /hyperbole
We now return you to regular scheduled posting.Things aren't the same for every kid with an absentee parent, of course, but in my case my absentee mother was and is not very important to me at all. (But then, she was REALLY absentee. Not just emotionally distant. I actually remember seeing her only twice before my 15th birthday.) Which is why I had the bit about hyperbole as well as sarcasm. We've seen the importance Annie gives her father and it seems odd to me to argue that he's not important because he's not around when it's Annie that gives him that weighty status, not him.
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Post by dolfiempth on Dec 10, 2013 4:18:30 GMT
Gah I never even considered Annie feeling this way which is stupid of me because I. I know that feel.
Also her body language is totally great here.
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Post by warrl on Dec 10, 2013 4:29:14 GMT
I also want to mention that there is quite a lot of space between "not important" and "the most important person in a kid's life".
Anthony is obviously important to Antimony, but while Surma was alive she was more important - and perhaps Anthony is not as important NOW as several of the people and beings she knows in the Court and Forest. Individually or, even more likely, collectively.
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Post by fishtie on Dec 10, 2013 6:11:27 GMT
FOR MEDICINE! (in same sudden half mad exclamation as FOR SCIENCE!)
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 10, 2013 6:35:11 GMT
FOR MEDICINE! (in same sudden half mad exclamation as FOR SCIENCE!) Half mad? Bah, for shame!
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Post by fishtie on Dec 10, 2013 6:38:02 GMT
FOR MEDICINE! (in same sudden half mad exclamation as FOR SCIENCE!) Half mad? Bah, for shame! Look, we have to keep the masquerade up somehow.
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Post by philman on Dec 10, 2013 8:35:54 GMT
Name an anatomical part that can be cut/removed to prevent fathering any children...
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Post by TBeholder on Dec 10, 2013 9:33:11 GMT
For illustrative teaching. Speaking of which, allow me to illustrate the concept with this link. FOR MEDICINE! (in same sudden half mad exclamation as FOR SCIENCE!) Half mad? Bah, for shame! How about this: half mad medicine, half mad science?
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