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Post by hal9000 on Nov 16, 2010 1:33:44 GMT
You said something along the lines of "Assume if you turn yourself in for murder, you might get leniency. With that assumption, explain how the point would not be true." If I assume that it is possible to get leniency for turning one's self in, and I can also assume that it is possible to not get leniency for turning one's self in, and that the two are mutually exclusive, then I can assume that either case is possible, and that it is contingent upon the situation at hand. Come on, you didn't start this because either outcome was valid, did you? Just make a logical statement. If that last statement wasn't logical or was fallacious, then prove it.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 1:35:02 GMT
Come on, you didn't start this because either outcome was valid, did you? Just make a logical statement. If that last statement wasn't logical or was fallacious, then prove it. Its already understood, it doesn't need support. If I say "sometimes it rains" that includes "sometimes it doesn't rain" or else you would say "it always rains" Both outcomes are valid so neither disproves "sometimes it rains", get it?
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Post by hal9000 on Nov 16, 2010 1:37:59 GMT
If that last statement wasn't logical or was fallacious, then prove it. Its already understood, it doesn't need support. Okay, well, QED then. Sorry, but I'm running on 20 hours no sleep at this point and I'm starting to lose the ability to post coherently.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 1:39:56 GMT
Its already understood, it doesn't need support. Okay, well, QED then. Sorry, but I'm running on 20 hours no sleep at this point and I'm starting to lose the ability to post coherently. Okay, lets drop it. I was wondering what was going on. Get some rest, we can argue about stuff another time!
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Post by Mezzaphor on Nov 16, 2010 1:41:01 GMT
I wonder if she had any schooling before Gunnerkrigg? Didn't she stay in the hospital with her mom from a fairly early age? Yep, Annie was homeschooled prior to coming to the Court. And by "home" I mean " Good Hope Hospital".
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Post by warrl on Nov 16, 2010 1:47:51 GMT
Oh, wait, right - it's Gunnerkrigg we talk about. This can turn in any imaginable way, and two or three unimaginable ones. Simultaneously. Which takes some pretty slick writing.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 1:57:06 GMT
I wonder if she had any schooling before Gunnerkrigg? Didn't she stay in the hospital with her mom from a fairly early age? Yep, Annie was homeschooled prior to coming to the Court. And by "home" I mean " Good Hope Hospital". Annie was also 'homeschooled' by the psychopomps and I believe they stopped time while they talked to her so she learned more that her 12 years should have. If "time stood still" means it literally stood still, that is. She speaks in hieroglyphs! ;D ;D
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Post by Eddy on Nov 16, 2010 2:11:38 GMT
Sombrero Death has a rockin' mustache. So I guess Surma was the one who educated Annie. So I'm guessing that while Annie is an absolute expert on the etheric world and on several different cultures (I can only wonder how many languages she can speak), she may be lacking in the math and science department. Perhaps her father was too busy or distant to teach her anything about those subjects.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 2:15:24 GMT
Hello! (:
I have not scanned through the pages of this topic, (even though I should), so please forgive me if this idea is already stated.
A thought that crossed my mind while reading this new page and trying to tie it in is,
For Annie and the Donlan family, to go to Scotland and Paris, that would take several days if not weeks. So, the students must be preparing for a break! Where I live, students usually have a semester test before going on week long breaks. I originally thought by the expression Annie had was that she didn't want to go. Maybe, (work with me here) Annie is changing Kat's homework or Kat's notes, resulting in Kat flunking the test or the class and staying during the break for extra schooling. Meaning that the Donlan family couldn't attend, which meant Annie couldn't either.
Or, you know, I could be as far off as you can go and she just might be copying homework.
Sorry for my incredibly outrageous idea, it was just a random thought. :/ Hi, welcome and that's a new idea! I don't think Annie wants to go either but I'd think she'd flunk herself instead of Kat, if she's going to flunk anyone and I think that's what she's got in mind.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 2:17:11 GMT
Sombrero Death has a rockin' mustache. So I guess Surma was the one who educated Annie. So I'm guessing that while Annie is an absolute expert on the etheric world and on several different cultures (I can only wonder how many languages she can speak), she may be lacking in the math and science department. Perhaps her father was too busy or distant to teach her anything about those subjects. Aw man, good point!
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 2:39:16 GMT
Hi, welcome and that's a new idea! I don't think Annie wants to go either but I'd think she'd flunk herself instead of Kat, if she's going to flunk anyone and I think that's what she's got in mind. Thanks!
Now that you have mentioned it, I think your idea is what will probably happen. (: Annie would flunk herself to get out of a situation like that seeing how she has been acting lately.
I wonder why Annie doesn't want to go though?
I think mostly she doesn't want to leave Rey on his own for weeks. (Also, I don't think Tom wants to take a vacation from the comic. If Annie goes on vacation, there will be no story development.)
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Post by kalechibki on Nov 16, 2010 2:48:25 GMT
All she has to do is use the blinker stone to see if there is anyone in the near vicinity. Actually, with the blinker stone, she could probably read the homework book from the next room if she wanted to. Upon some reflection, this is what I am wondering - why cheat off of Kat when she could use the blinker stone to look at the teachers work? ... unless the teacher is like me and often doesn't write out the solutions before hand, and just does them on the fly...oops. But the point is this - why cheat in the room when she has begun to learn to affect the world around her through the use of her blinker stone. She's obviously getting pretty proficient at using it for mental manipulation of reality (given her escapades with Jack at the power station, the camping trip, etc). This sums up my point exactly. I don't condone cheating, even minor instances. I'm a teacher, it's part of my job. And, like it or not, despite so-called valid reasons for cheating or people who otherwise don't need it doing it anyway, that still doesn't change the fact that many who do it are being lazy and have no real interest in learning. Do we say that these guys cheating is okay since they're learning, but it's not okay for those other guys? That's like saying petty theft is okay since it's not grand theft auto. Also, another aside as a teacher...I often find it hysterical how many students copy wrong answers, so that it's not only cheating, but then it's still WRONG! Easy to find culprits that way... (not in anyway saying Kat is wrong, but, it's a humorous part of the cheating culture). Hard to learn with wrong answers.
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Post by Refugee on Nov 16, 2010 2:48:58 GMT
I don't think Annie's expression supports the idea that she's cheating. She's spying. She thinks Kat has written down something Annie will interpret as evidence. What, I haven't a clue. She might not think Kat herself is guilty of something, but she suspects that Kat has written down something about the Court, or about Kat's mom, that Annie disapproves of. === Incidentally, Ms. Donlan's lab equipment looks like a vacuum chamber for Molecular Beam Epitaxy research, which deals with things like integrated circuits, solid state lasers and detectors, and other devices built up from atomically thin layers of doped semiconductor.
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Post by todd on Nov 16, 2010 2:53:38 GMT
(Also, I don't think Tom wants to take a vacation from the comic. If Annie goes on vacation, there will be no story development.) Tom would simply do another two weeks of semi-hiatus - guest comics, another "City Face"-type comic, or something like that - and then pick up again at the beginning of the third year.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 2:56:15 GMT
I don't think Annie is literally cheating even if she is in the act of cheating. She's doing something but the purpose is not to get answers from Kat's book. The real purpose is to get out of traveling and cheating is just the means to that end. (Last time I had myself so well wrapped into a theory, I was dead wrong...)
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 2:59:48 GMT
(Also, I don't think Tom wants to take a vacation from the comic. If Annie goes on vacation, there will be no story development.) Tom would simply do another two weeks of semi-hiatus - guest comics, another "City Face"-type comic, or something like that - and then pick up again at the beginning of the third year. Yeah, that's possible... he works really hard so I'd like him to take a break now and then.... * argh... tries to resist... no... can't help it...* and find a nice girl and settle down. I think I'm a were-yenta... resistance is futile! ;D
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Post by notacat on Nov 16, 2010 9:33:42 GMT
(Also, I don't think Tom wants to take a vacation from the comic. If Annie goes on vacation, there will be no story development.) I don't follow your logic: surely what Annie and Kat get up to on holiday is potentially perfectly capable of developing the story.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 12:10:06 GMT
(Also, I don't think Tom wants to take a vacation from the comic. If Annie goes on vacation, there will be no story development.) I don't follow your logic: surely what Annie and Kat get up to on holiday is potentially perfectly capable of developing the story. Wouldn't it just be a nice family vacation? No robots, ghosts, mysteries, or magic, just normal fun stuff.
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Post by hal9000 on Nov 16, 2010 12:27:32 GMT
I don't follow your logic: surely what Annie and Kat get up to on holiday is potentially perfectly capable of developing the story. Wouldn't it just be a nice family vacation? No robots, ghosts, mysteries, or magic, just normal fun stuff. I don't think ghosts, robots and mysteries are the sole domain of the court, though. eg maybe we'd get to see the loch ness monster or something? Also, I personally quite like the idea of seeing some slice of life-type stuff that I'd assume comes with a vacation.
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Post by todd on Nov 16, 2010 13:02:58 GMT
Anyway, as I said yesterday, Tom would most likely skip over the summer holidays as he did last time, just give a couple of weeks of another "City Face"-like spin-off strip, and then begin the next chapter with the start of the new school year.
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 13:31:52 GMT
Are they going anywhere near Greece? They could stop by and visit Basil!
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Post by todd on Nov 16, 2010 23:05:38 GMT
Tom might want a break in the overall plot at this point (might, I emphasize; we don't know exactly what he's thinking), after all the dark revelations we've had about the Court's activities (the Power Station, the murder of Jeanne, Reynardine being tricked into thinking that Surma loved him). It's too late to forget about these, and I don't think that the readers will ever be able to return to the attitude of "Gunnerkrigg Court is the coolest school in the world" now that we know what lurks beneath its facade, but perhaps shifting away to more light-hearted adventures would be necessary to counter that.
But only time will tell.
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Post by todd on Nov 16, 2010 23:08:13 GMT
One silly (if improbable) idea on how this chapter might end.
Annie and Kat kiss. Mrs. Donlan walks in, sees them kissing, and when she recovers from her shock, decides not to let Annie come with them on the summer holidays after all. It then turns out that Annie and Kat's kiss was a plan they'd cooked up to let Annie stay at the Court during the summer and look after Reynardine so he wouldn't be on his own. (Though if it happened, I suspect that many of Tom's readers would never forgive him for that last revelation.)
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 23:13:37 GMT
One silly (if improbable) idea on how this chapter might end. Annie and Kat kiss. Mrs. Donlan walks in, sees them kissing, and when she recovers from her shock, decides not to let Annie come with them on the summer holidays after all. It then turns out that Annie and Kat's kiss was a plan they'd cooked up to let Annie stay at the Court during the summer and look after Reynardine so he wouldn't be on his own. (Though if it happened, I suspect that many of Tom's readers would never forgive him for that last revelation.) Or... Anja thinks Annie is a good girl and would treat her daughter well and isn't young love sweet?
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Post by Alex on Nov 16, 2010 23:34:25 GMT
Erm, what?
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Post by jayne on Nov 16, 2010 23:41:01 GMT
No worries, I'm pretty sure that's not how the chapter will end.
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Post by qmarx on Nov 17, 2010 0:15:15 GMT
I'm pretty sure that Annie is going to have someone suddenly speak up from behind her. Odds are Rey or Jones.
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Post by Queue on Nov 17, 2010 0:17:53 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks Annie is DOING Kat's homework (mainly due to her time-constrained dedication towards Robot's body)? The previous page of her writing stuff down IN Kat's workbook was her doing Kat's written work cause Kat is purely practical, I'm sure. I've always seen Annie as a bookworm and Kat as the practical monkey, so :\ .
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Post by sarapen on Nov 17, 2010 0:46:12 GMT
So who's paying for Annie's travel expenses? Are the Donlans covering her or did her father plonk down a large pile of cash for miscellaneous stuff when he paid for her schooling?
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Post by jayne on Nov 17, 2010 1:05:39 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks Annie is DOING Kat's homework (mainly due to her time-constrained dedication towards Robot's body)? The previous page of her writing stuff down IN Kat's workbook was her doing Kat's written work cause Kat is purely practical, I'm sure. I've always seen Annie as a bookworm and Kat as the practical monkey, so :\ . Kat gets really good grades so I'm thinking she does her own homework. Robot building is more of a hobby for her.
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