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Post by Yin on Sept 11, 2009 6:56:14 GMT
Shot down.'The Maid of LLanwellyn' is a Kate Rusby song.
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Post by edzepp on Sept 11, 2009 7:01:11 GMT
Oh no! Bad things are happening for bad reasons! That are bad.
Janet and Willy: Can't catch a break.
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Post by Casey on Sept 11, 2009 7:01:58 GMT
So. Now we know Janet's last name. And hence, the Headmaster too.
This of course does not necessarily debunk the possibility that she's descended from Steadman the Archer. In Wednesday's discussion thread we were saying that perhaps her last name was Steadman. However, Steadman could have been his given name and not his surname.
In other news, there's an emergency back at the Court. In case you hadn't heard. Nice Friday cliffhanger, yes? Poor Marcia. And we -still- haven't gotten to see her eyes normal, to know whether or not she's an ex-fairy. Though the greenish hair is hard to ignore. But maybe she just likes it that way. Gotta say though, the gardener marrying a wood nymph would certainly make sense.
Who would care to speculate about what's happening back at the Court?
And here I was, just today, thinking about whether or not we'd already gotten to the point in the story where Tom thought people were going to have such a problem with it. Maybe we're about to find out?
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Post by edzepp on Sept 11, 2009 7:07:15 GMT
Those seeds that Ysengrim dropped in 'The Fangs of Summertime' have hatched and are doing something evil? I dunno.
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Post by penguinfactory on Sept 11, 2009 7:11:43 GMT
Those seeds that Ysengrim dropped in 'The Fangs of Summertime' have hatched and are doing something evil? I dunno. That would be my guess as well.
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Post by Casey on Sept 11, 2009 7:15:27 GMT
Now here's something I just thought of that I think will be interesting. The story's always been told from Annie's point of view, and she's out in the wilderness, so how are we going to know about what's going on? I can think of a couple of ways:
1) We aren't. We have to watch Annie suffer through not knowing what's going on, and also to be stuck in the wilderness with Jack, and no supervision other than a reluctant and probably underqualified Marcia.
2) Annie will, somehow, make her way back to the Court alone. This is the option that I think is least likely.
3) Annie will use her blinker stone to test her limits of "astral travel" (for lack of a better term) to try to contact Reynardine or to see what's happening from where they are. Funny how I was talking about the limits of astral travel just the other day.
4) Alternatively, Reynardine will come to Annie, or find a way to contact her despite her having her blinker stone with her and not near him.
Other thoughts?
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Post by Azeltir on Sept 11, 2009 7:27:39 GMT
In panel 5 something clearly very interesting is said. And given Marcia's posture, it doesn't look like she knows what.
Ben
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Post by starburst98 on Sept 11, 2009 7:33:23 GMT
i so called doing that to tie on purpose! i am seriously starting to wonder when/if anyone is going to find out about this. it would be cool if annie goes ethereal and sees a 'red string of fate' connecting them or something. and it could even just be a side thing, like she is watching the area and one of them just happens to be in the view, with a string going off into the distance.
also, bad stuff is going down, maybe another dogwood?
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Post by chiparoo on Sept 11, 2009 7:43:15 GMT
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Post by guyy on Sept 11, 2009 7:54:33 GMT
Panicked, hurrying Eglamore...I see a *SINGLE BOUND* in the near future. Those seeds that Ysengrim dropped in 'The Fangs of Summertime' have hatched and are doing something evil? I dunno. Probably something like that, otherwise they wouldn't need Bob to come.
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Post by tictoc on Sept 11, 2009 8:00:17 GMT
Hmm.. now Reynardine and Eglamore will be out of service area when Jack come's a-callin'
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Post by andrewtbp on Sept 11, 2009 8:03:19 GMT
Check out track 10 Yes, that's an open secret. I'm looking forward to the field trip to Botany Bay.
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Post by starburst98 on Sept 11, 2009 8:21:43 GMT
if we see a wild goose, and the cows sing a song i would start to get worried about how many songs on that track have been used. since 'drowned lovers' would then be like an ominous prediction...
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Post by gaia on Sept 11, 2009 10:32:17 GMT
'Sir Eglamore' is accounted for. 'The Maid of Llanwellyn' is as well. Marcia will turn out to be a sailor, and she obviously won't be getting much sleep now. She'll try to keep the students calm by teaching them a song about the cows, a song about visiting someone at night, and then by suggesting a trip to Botany Bay at the edge of the sea that happens to be in the Court. Willie, inspired by the emergency to thoughts of the fleetingness of life, will propose to Janet and she will therefore become his sweet bride. Unfortunately, on the trip to Botany Bay Willie will fall in the sea and drown to death. Janet, who's off by herself in order to maintain the fragile charade that they aren't totally married, will wonder what's keeping her true love, go look for him, realise he's dead and drown the crap out of herself.
Marcia, having concluded after the tragic multiple drowning that she's not suited for childcare, will recruit a passing collier to help look after the kids. Said collier will be a wild goose named Bold Riley because why not. One of the kids will go all maudlin and wish on the most attractive sprig of yarrow around that Willie and Janet hadn't drowned, but the rest of the student body will conclude that they're over them now.
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Post by todd on Sept 11, 2009 10:51:34 GMT
Now here's something I just thought of that I think will be interesting. The story's always been told from Annie's point of view, Most of it, but not all. The flashbacks in Chapter Eleven were from Zimmy and Gamma's viewpoint, and the flashbacks in Chapter Eighteen were from Kat's viewpoint (as was, apparently, most of the present-day portion of the chapter). Annie was entirely absent from Chapter Twenty-two. And a lot of the Bonus Pages were also told from other people's point of view. It's also possible that the emergency back at the Court isn't that important to the story, but is just a plot device to get Eglamore and Bob out of the way because their presence would interfere in this chapter's story (i.e., that whatever trouble arises to form the main plot would have been solved in a few seconds had they been there). Kind of like the Necromancer business in "The Hobbit" that required Gandalf to leave Bilbo and the dwarves just as the most dangerous part of their journey was about to begin, for example. Finally, as a wild guess - maybe the real point is to simply provide some comedy over Marcia's panic at having to look after things on her own, and nothing big will happen either at the Court (on-stage, that is) or in the camp; instead, the rest of the chapter will be composed of more vignettes about humorous camping incidents (like Paz being scared by the robot cows earlier), the Jack incident was just there to link the chapter more closely with the rest of the story and has no further development for the remainder of the Residential, there is no big plot for this chapter - and that's the problem that Tom predicted we'd have with it.
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Post by eightyfour on Sept 11, 2009 11:01:13 GMT
Oh poor Marcia! Isn't her face beyond priceless! ;D
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Sept 11, 2009 11:42:10 GMT
Man... Janet and William are so damn cute together. I wonder if they're still managing to fool everyone, or if the other people are just pretending to not know the two of them are an item.
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Post by idonotlikepeas on Sept 11, 2009 12:11:24 GMT
Hey, she's backed up by a herd of laser cows. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
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Post by todd on Sept 11, 2009 12:20:38 GMT
Hey, she's backed up by a herd of laser cows. What could POSSIBLY go wrong? That depends on whose side the cows are on.
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Post by wanderer on Sept 11, 2009 12:53:36 GMT
Oh great, Eglamore's left the picture. Now everyone's going to die.
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Post by Mezzaphor on Sept 11, 2009 13:50:22 GMT
Maybe, as speculated before, Rey is up to something now that Annie has no way of checking in on him. Of course, if that were the case, I would expect Eggers to bring Annie along.
I guess the fact that Bob is needed suggests it's a botanical emergency.
As for Marcia, she doesn't have pointy ears, so I think she's human.
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Post by Snes on Sept 11, 2009 14:34:22 GMT
'Janet LLanwellyn Winsbury' Doesn't exactly roll of the tongue.
I guess Marcia isn't that good with kids. At least she doesn't think so.
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Post by Azeltir on Sept 11, 2009 15:46:13 GMT
Kind of like the Necromancer business in "The Hobbit" that required Gandalf to leave Bilbo and the dwarves just as the most dangerous part of their journey was about to begin, for example. And yet, the Necromancer was an avatar of Sauron. So, related after all. I'm pretty sure things are going to be interestingly interconnected here. I suppose "we'll see" is the only proper response, but I see no reason not to guess that the emergency does indeed deal with the seeds. Keep up the speculation! Ben
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Post by Mishmash on Sept 11, 2009 16:21:09 GMT
I don't know much about Kate Rusby, having only heard of her through connections to her songs in this comic. Does she only sing her own versions of traditional folk songs or does she write her own songs too?
Also I reckon the incident at the Court will be significant, although not necessarily as significant as the fact creepy Jack is hanging around at the camp and there is now only one adult (who does not seem very confident) left to look after about 60 kids.
Also I bet Annie (and possibly Kat) are not going to enjoy knowing there is an emergency at the Court but not knowing what it is. Will they try to find out what is going on back there or take the lower supervision as an opportunity to explore the monument to Sir Young and/or confront Jack?
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Post by Casey on Sept 11, 2009 16:33:49 GMT
I think it would be an interesting story device, for something relatively serious were to happen "off-stage", and Eglamore and company take care of it, and Annie (and thus, ourselves) doesn't even find out what it was for several chapters, until someone says "remember that time when you were away on Residential?"
With the Court being as huge as it is, it's realistic to think that things are happening around the Court that -don't- involve the main characters. I would be satisfied with the presentation of the idea that Annie can't and doesn't solve -every- problem that arises in such a large place.
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Post by TBeholder on Sept 11, 2009 16:51:17 GMT
Shot down.'The Maid of LLanwellyn' is a Kate Rusby song. Well, at least Willy's Winsbury, not Yarrow. That's a good thing to know. Those seeds that Ysengrim dropped in 'The Fangs of Summertime' have hatched and are doing something evil? I dunno. I'd say, it's a poor lad gone nuts (more than he was) and did something stupid. Like jumping into nearby pool to cool down his overheating head. Or inadvertently reactivated some dog-shrub. Also I reckon the incident at the Court will be significant, although not necessarily as significant as the fact creepy Jack is hanging around at the camp Hanging may be the word. Though i don't think so. Anyway, boy's the prime candidate for becoming an "emergency" -- one way or another. The second is Rey who remembered here's Jack and tried to reach a camp on his own. With the Court being as huge as it is, it's realistic to think that things are happening around the Court that -don't- involve the main characters. I would be satisfied with the presentation of the idea that Annie can't and doesn't solve -every- problem that arises in such a large place. Unlikely. We don't see things not happening around her. And she tries to solve most problems she does encounter.
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Post by Ulysses on Sept 11, 2009 16:58:12 GMT
Janet is Welsh! Incredible. I thought she was Irish or Scottish. Hah, look at the two of them in panel 4, pretending like they weren't holding hands. Now -that's- what I call an open secret. Who agrees with me that the kids are going to run rings around Marcia? This of course does not necessarily debunk the possibility that she's descended from Steadman the Archer. In Wednesday's discussion thread we were saying that perhaps her last name was Steadman. However, Steadman could have been his given name and not his surname. There's also a possibility that if she is related it's not straight down the male line. There was probably a daughter who married a Llanwellyn somewhere along the line.
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Post by Casey on Sept 11, 2009 17:07:39 GMT
True true, I had a similar thought earlier this morning.
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Post by Aris Katsaris on Sept 11, 2009 18:20:11 GMT
'Janet LLanwellyn Winsbury' Doesn't exactly roll of the tongue. William Llanwellyn is nicely euphonic though -- those repeated double "l"s and the "w"s. He'll be totally taking her name.
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Post by Casey on Sept 11, 2009 19:05:33 GMT
...when they get married like they're totally gonna.
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