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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 2, 2015 11:43:40 GMT
www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=397 Donny holding the newspaper upside down. I can't understand how I missed that before. And the label sticking out of Kat's shirt, Tom must have had fun making this page. And Anja holding the pencil in her left hand, but that one is a little more subtle because you have look at other pages to see that she is right handed.
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Post by warrl on Nov 3, 2015 5:37:04 GMT
www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=397 Donny holding the newspaper upside down. I can't understand how I missed that before. And the label sticking out of Kat's shirt, Tom must have had fun making this page. And Anja holding the pencil in her left hand, but that one is a little more subtle because you have look at other pages to see that she is right handed. Also, in quite a lot of webcomics characters' handedness is extremely variable depending on what looks better in that panel.
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Post by snowflake on Nov 3, 2015 7:28:52 GMT
www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1559In the second panel, in which we see a depiction of Annie through Anthony's POV, she has Surma's hairstyle. Indeed as Ysengrin said, her father looks at her and sees his dead wife.
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Post by aline on Nov 6, 2015 10:38:11 GMT
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 6, 2015 16:00:04 GMT
Guessing it's not much of a Cool Thing, but Annie's necklaces quickly disappear as the events of The Tree kick off. Likely just a drawing error, yeah, but still wouldn't put it past people to draw some form of symbolism from it. ..or alternately: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=227
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Post by Gotolei on Nov 9, 2015 17:24:50 GMT
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Post by keef on Nov 18, 2015 16:29:42 GMT
I love this foreshadowing. Of course the discrepancy between Dhoo's words and Annie's happy face, diverts attention from the fire hose. Another thing: I thought "disfortunate" was archaic English, like "twixt" on the same page, but Tom probably made it up.
And a cool thing from an old thread: EDIT: Googled Tolikna and came up with this: from babynamefacts.com Prob'ly means nothing, but it's interesting to know.
I don't think she would have stood a chance, if she had stood her ground.I missed that, I wonder how close to the king the cult has come.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 22, 2015 16:42:30 GMT
I noticed that line the first time I saw it... I like to think that Anja's ability is to sense the connection between things. Sort of like she knew Rey was telling the truth about being bound to Annie in Ch 7. I did not notice the crystal ball that rageboy pointed out! I was clearly way too busy looking at Donny and Anja making out and wishing I was Donny. It might make a little sense to have a crystal ball though, considering Anja's Romani. Maybe she sidelines as a gypsy fortune teller? Not that that would be a stereotype, or anything obvious like that. Courtesy of Tom's recent TMS interview... I can't find a separate thread that discusses Anja and this is the first post in a relevant thread that does relate to Anja's being Romani. In the interview, Tom specifically says that Kat is half Gitano (Spanish Romani). I thought Tom had indicated that Anja was from Spain, but I could never find where Tom said that. In the Chrysoprax database, he only says that Anja is from various places and he only said "someplace like that" when specifically asked about Romania. It has been mildly bugging me for a while and I am glad the TMS interview provides a definitive reference. Now I can also wonder out loud about whether Paz knows Kat's Gitano heritage. And I just misspelled Gitano as Gatano and laughed because of you know, Gato! BTW - You can still search the Chrysoprax/Formspring database and see the resulting list questions and answers, but when you try to select a specific question, you get sent to www.twoo.com. I believe the www.chrysoprax.org/gunnerkrigg webpage is unchanged, but it appears that Formspring became spring.me which then became Twoo. EDIT: Kudos to keef for pointing out where Tom mentioned that Anja was from Spain, and that was carried over into the WOT section of the wiki page.
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Post by Corvo on Nov 25, 2015 2:45:50 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 26, 2015 1:16:49 GMT
Another perspective is that Donny made sure the flying ship worked and would have intervened if he thought it was unsafe. They didn't know about Jeanne so the only danger from their perspective was the descent and the ascent. I know that is not as interesting as filicide/prolicide, but this is one of many times that Tom contrasts Kat, whose father has repeatedly not tried kill her, with Annie, whose father almost killed her at least once, that we know of, so far.
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Post by Corvo on Nov 26, 2015 13:51:58 GMT
Another perspective is that Donny made sure the flying ship worked and would have intervened if he thought it was unsafe. They didn't know about Jeanne so the only danger from their perspective was the descent and the ascent. I know that is not as interesting as filicide/prolicide, but this is one of many times that Tom contrasts Kat, whose father has repeatedly not tried kill her, with Annie, whose father almost killed her at least once, that we know of, so far. So Annie fell and they thought "well, she's most certainly dead, no reason to try and send someone/something down there and make sure, right? Besides, her father is not even here, so no one really needs her body for a funeral or anything like that"? No, I believe the school staff is quite aware that nothing can cross(or get to, as we've seen with Kat's cameras) the Annan Waters, even if they don't know the reason for this. Anyway, my previous comment was a joke, I don't really think Donny was trying to get rid of Kat. I was thinking more along the lines "Donald and Anja know something about Kat that we don't". I mean, why did Jeanne disappear to the other shore when Kat showed up? I think there's something to be uncovered here.
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Post by Corvo on Nov 26, 2015 14:40:35 GMT
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Nov 26, 2015 19:19:43 GMT
Another perspective is that Donny made sure the flying ship worked and would have intervened if he thought it was unsafe. They didn't know about Jeanne so the only danger from their perspective was the descent and the ascent. I know that is not as interesting as filicide/prolicide, but this is one of many times that Tom contrasts Kat, whose father has repeatedly not tried kill her, with Annie, whose father almost killed her at least once, that we know of, so far. So Annie fell and they thought "well, she's most certainly dead, no reason to try and send someone/something down there and make sure, right? Besides, her father is not even here, so no one really needs her body for a funeral or anything like that"? No, I believe the school staff is quite aware that nothing can cross(or get to, as we've seen with Kat's cameras) the Annan Waters, even if they don't know the reason for this. Anyway, my previous comment was a joke, I don't really think Donny was trying to get rid of Kat. I was thinking more along the lines "Donald and Anja know something about Kat that we don't". I mean, why did Jeanne disappear to the other shore when Kat showed up? I think there's something to be uncovered here. Although it wasn't shown in comic, and i can't find the reference at the moment, I thought Tom said that the Court knew Annie survived the fall and they were preparing to rescue Annie, but Kat was faster (a determined individual is much faster than a bureaucracy). Others readers have already speculated that the Court may have known that Annie was alive because of the stuff in they put in the student's food or maybe surveillance of the river/border. I agree that it is difficult to believe that the Court doesn't know that something is stopping the Forest from infiltrating the Court over or through the Annan Waters. My only guess is that the Court either knew that Annie was on the other side of the river and relatively safe, or they thought she was safe because she was wasn't killed immediately.
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Post by keef on Nov 26, 2015 21:59:56 GMT
So Annie fell and they thought "well, she's most certainly dead, no reason to try and send someone/something down there and make sure, right? Besides, her father is not even here, so no one really needs her body for a funeral or anything like that"? No, I believe the school staff is quite aware that nothing can cross(or get to, as we've seen with Kat's cameras) the Annan Waters, even if they don't know the reason for this. Anyway, my previous comment was a joke, I don't really think Donny was trying to get rid of Kat. I was thinking more along the lines "Donald and Anja know something about Kat that we don't". I mean, why did Jeanne disappear to the other shore when Kat showed up? I think there's something to be uncovered here. Although it wasn't shown in comic, and i can't find the reference at the moment, I thought Tom said that the Court knew Annie survived the fall and they were preparing to rescue Annie, but Kat was faster (a determined individual is much faster than a bureaucracy). Others readers have already speculated that the Court may have known that Annie was alive because of the stuff in they put in the student's food or maybe surveillance of the river/border. I agree that it is difficult to believe that the Court doesn't know that something is stopping the Forest from infiltrating the Court over or through the Annan Waters. My only guess is that the Court either knew that Annie was on the other side of the river and relatively safe, or they thought she was safe because she was wasn't killed immediately. I think it was warrl who said they knew because Rey was still trapped in the wolf toy. edit: found it
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Post by Gotolei on Dec 5, 2015 0:26:02 GMT
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Post by kajorma on Jan 19, 2016 14:01:26 GMT
I saw something on Treatise Page 5 that I thought was amusing. The triangle at the top contains the Greek letters Zeta, Gamma and Iota. You get one guess as to who the first two letters refer to, but Iota confused me... until I realized that Iota was the Greek equivalent to the letter J, as in Jack. Tom literally put in a Love Triangle on a Treatise Page. Haha. Nice.
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Post by cobaltflame on Jan 19, 2016 17:18:42 GMT
It's very possible that someone's noticed this before (as always with this thread), but on this page, where Margot and John are "looking for something else to play," they come across a door that reads " U SED INSTRUMENTS." Obviously they take it to mean, "Used Instruments," but I think it used to read, " Cursed Instruments."
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Post by OGRuddawg on Jan 20, 2016 17:29:34 GMT
That would be a lot of cursed instruments...
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Post by OGRuddawg on Feb 2, 2016 15:43:28 GMT
In the chapter "Ties", I just realized that the robots setting up the perimeter have eyes that glow orange when issuing warnings, shut off when disrupted, and green when relaxed, just like the current court robots.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 2, 2016 17:23:41 GMT
In the chapter "Ties", I just realized that the robots setting up the perimeter have eyes that glow orange when issuing warnings, shut off when disrupted, and green when relaxed, just like the current court robots. Bots don't have physical experssions (except the King and his markers) so they need something to assure or warn others. Even the creepy tamborine monkey toys in Fallout have eyes that start to glow before they start making a racket. <shudders> So creepy...
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Post by OGRuddawg on Feb 3, 2016 12:29:10 GMT
Yeah I know the function, it's just something I never noticed on those particular robots. Maybe a was just bad with noticing the details in that chapter.
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Post by Druplesnubb on Feb 5, 2016 20:51:21 GMT
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Post by TBeholder on Feb 7, 2016 16:13:02 GMT
In other words: Renard was absent for long enough that Coyote got bored.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Feb 7, 2016 17:56:16 GMT
When there is not enough trouble, Coyote creates it.
Sounds like Coyote might be a metaphor for life. Or at least the weird shit.
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Post by Starrylight on Feb 8, 2016 2:50:26 GMT
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Post by OGRuddawg on Feb 12, 2016 17:33:41 GMT
On page 39, Anja shows up as soon as the alarm goes off. We know the Dolan have their own house in a residential neighborhood, so how did she get there so fast? Mr. Donlan's door! Tom had the idea of Donny's portable door since the second frigging chapter!!
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Post by CarbonRabbit on Feb 12, 2016 18:31:31 GMT
I'm late in mentioning something like this, but Surma's hair was short at one point too. I mean, granted it's more wavey than Annie's, but in all other images of her, or flashbacks, she's got long hair. This is the only one (that I know of) where it's short. Eh, I'm probably reading too much into it, and someone has likely already pointed this out. Still, I thought it was interesting.
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Post by Corvo on Feb 12, 2016 21:19:17 GMT
On page 39, Anja shows up as soon as the alarm goes off. We know the Dolan have their own house in a residential neighborhood, so how did she get there so fast? Mr. Donlan's door! Tom had the idea of Donny's portable door since the second frigging chapter!! As I remember, the Donny-door only leads you to de other side of the wall. Anja could've used some kind of teleportation though. Brinnie style, you know.
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 13, 2016 1:19:07 GMT
On page 39, Anja shows up as soon as the alarm goes off. We know the Dolan have their own house in a residential neighborhood, so how did she get there so fast? Mr. Donlan's door! Tom had the idea of Donny's portable door since the second frigging chapter!! As I remember, the Donny-door only leads you to de other side of the wall. Anja could've used some kind of teleportation though. Brinnie style, you know. I assumed that Anja was just doing her rotation as the dorm mother and staying over night at the dorms.
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Post by OGRuddawg on Feb 13, 2016 2:29:57 GMT
As I remember, the Donny-door only leads you to de other side of the wall. Anja could've used some kind of teleportation though. Brinnie style, you know. I assumed that Anja was just doing her rotation as the dorm mother and staying over night at the dorms. Crap, I screwed that one up.... yeah her being on rounds makes sense.
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