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Post by ▒▓│Walkman│▓▒ on Nov 18, 2014 16:26:47 GMT
Long story short; there was a renumbering. I've read about the renumbering, but I'm talking about the links in the comic comment (or whatever you call it) that go to the forums - they need to be corrected, and I wasn't sure where to bring it up  |
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Post by zimmyzims on Nov 18, 2014 17:13:30 GMT
Long story short; there was a renumbering. tl;dr. |
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Post by keef on Nov 18, 2014 17:32:21 GMT
Long story short; there was a renumbering. I've read about the renumbering, but I'm talking about the links in the comic comment (or whatever you call it) that go to the forums - they need to be corrected, and I wasn't sure where to bring it up O sorry, misunderstood. Tom's comment can only be changed by Tom. You could e-mail him, but don't hold your breath. |
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Post by CoyoteReborn on Nov 18, 2014 19:28:02 GMT
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Post by lit on Nov 18, 2014 20:39:48 GMT
I've read about the renumbering, but I'm talking about the links in the comic comment (or whatever you call it) that go to the forums - they need to be corrected, and I wasn't sure where to bring it up Since they're ancient news posts (from 2007), I think it's fine if the information they contain is out-of-date. The official forum link on the sidebar works fine on these and all other pages, at least, and there's also a redirect on the error page to the current forum - so it's not like anybody is getting too lost. Good catch, though. |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Nov 24, 2014 1:02:54 GMT
The Court Protector on page 556 throws a sword that is very close in shape to Coyote's tooth sword. Could the Court have found a way to make a perfectly sharp sword?
P.S. Coyote's tooth reminds me of Tinkledeath, the witch Angela's sword from Chris Paolini's Eragon/Ineritance cycle. It also could cut through just about anything.
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Post by aaroncampbell on Nov 25, 2014 17:04:14 GMT
So I was going back through this chapter looking for googly eyes. I'd remembered both Rey and Kat having them, so I decided to check out those pages (1419 and 1434, respectively.) It was then that I noticed just how similar they looked (click the spoiler tag to view them side by side; it's large so I hid the image to keep the forum from getting ugly.) Not only do these pages use nearly identical layouts, the story that's told is also analogous. The BLOOM! in the first panel, followed by an exclamation in the second. Then a series of frames showing an impending high-speed collision (which finally happens in the penultimate panel), followed by a major character left with googly eyes. Tom could not have done this accidentally. Nor was it a lazy shortcut. This was an intentional artistic choice; it had to be. I don't know whether he expected it to be noticed or if he simply did it for his own amusement, but I certainly did enjoy coming across it. Thanks, Tom! I'm very tempted now to go back through and look for similar things, but I think that might be a mistake. As alluring as the idea is, getting too OCD and deconstructing everything risks ruining the joy of accidental discovery. I think for myself at least I shall try to show some restraint and just enjoy coming across them again in the future by accident, as it were. |
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Post by keef on Nov 25, 2014 21:55:28 GMT
So I was going back through this chapter looking for googly eyes. I'd remembered both Rey and Kat having them, so I decided to check out those pages (1419 and 1434, respectively.) It was then that I noticed just how similar they looked (...) Tom could not have done this accidentally. Nor was it a lazy shortcut. This was an intentional artistic choice; it had to be. I don't know whether he expected it to be noticed or if he simply did it for his own amusement, but I certainly did enjoy coming across it. Thanks, Tom! I missed that, but it is really obvious when you look at them this way. Good eye!I think this chapter differs from earlier ones mostly in all the things that are not shown. It's three chapters full of action, planning and plotting combined in to one long one. Probably even more than earlier chapters needs a lot of rereading after it is completed. But however you look at it the art is great. |
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Post by lit on Dec 16, 2014 21:00:14 GMT
On this page where Coyote is talking about Renard's body, he emphasizes the words "young" and "healthy". This speech bubble is juxtaposed with a picture of Ysengrin, who we have learned, just a few pages earlier, is not young or healthy. I never realized this, but this is supposed to be a dig at Ysengrin or something. |
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Post by keef on Dec 17, 2014 23:04:13 GMT
On this page where Coyote is talking about Renard's body, he emphasizes the words "young" and "healthy". This speech bubble is juxtaposed with a picture of Ysengrin, who we have learned, just a few pages earlier, is not young or healthy. I never realized this, but this is supposed to be a dig at Ysengrin or something. Emphasizing both his love for Renard (the flowers!) and disdain for Ysengrin, and maybe an attempt to manipulate Annie? He is well aware of her fondness for Renard and (at that point) fear of Ysengrinn. Tom told us Coyote is not as smart as he thinks he is, and he probably doesn't understand feelings like compassion.. Beautiful page anyway. |
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Post by reddyeno5 on Dec 18, 2014 9:15:21 GMT
Emphasizing both his love for Renard (the flowers!) and disdain for Ysengrin, and maybe an attempt to manipulate Annie? He is well aware of her fondness for Renard and (at that point) fear of Ysengrinn. Tom told us Coyote is not as smart as he thinks he is, and he probably doesn't understand feelings like compassion.. Beautiful page anyway. I wouldn't put it past Coyote to be manipulating them both at the same time. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 24, 2014 3:08:30 GMT
I've speculated that William Winsbury may be second generation forest folk because his hair sticks up. But I didn't connect that speculation with Tom's comment on page 622, "Winsbury spent a lot of time camping with his folks." www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=622On my earlier read throughs, I just assumed Tom meant his parents. But maybe Tom was hinting that his parents are former forest folk. Or maybe its a reference to more than his parents and "his folk" means former forest folk in general. Winsbury, your mother was a faerie, your father was an animal, and they both smell of elderberries. |
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Post by jombra on Dec 24, 2014 17:48:35 GMT
I've speculated that William Winsbury may be second generation forest folk because his hair sticks up. But I didn't connect that speculation with Tom's comment on page 622, "Winsbury spent a lot of time camping with his folks." www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=622On my earlier read throughs, I just assumed Tom meant his parents. But maybe Tom was hinting that his parents are former forest folk. Or maybe its a reference to more than his parents and "his folk" means former forest folk in general. Winsbury, your mother was a faerie, your father was an animal, and they both smell of elderberries. It would explain why the headmaster would be especially disapproving of him and Janet. Was Winsbury raised on insults, I wonder? |
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 24, 2014 18:22:13 GMT
Was Winsbury raised on insults, I wonder? For years, he was known only as "he-who-is-the-worst-driver-ever" (due to an unfortunate incident with Coyote, a racing harness, and several rocket boosters stolen from the Court). Everyone cheered when he took the test. He's been overcompensating ever since. |
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Post by OGRuddawg on Dec 24, 2014 18:32:17 GMT
I really hope this is canon. I really want to see someone outside of the Foley house who is a recent transplant from the forest *fingers crossed*.
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Post by teirrah1995 on Dec 24, 2014 20:46:39 GMT
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Post by goldenknots on Dec 24, 2014 21:00:09 GMT
Probably not telepathically though, while underwater. |
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Post by Daedalus on Dec 24, 2014 21:58:58 GMT
The difference may be that Lindsey can hear anyone, but only Paz can hear HER. So Paz could give her the information she wanted, like, for example, where the students are at the moment. Or Lindsey could ask for clarification. Plus Paz was the only one who thought and dared to jump and search out Lindsey, which regardless of her powers, makes her a threat. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Dec 24, 2014 22:37:26 GMT
I really hope this is canon. I really want to see someone outside of the Foley house who is a recent transplant from the forest *fingers crossed*. My speculation is specifically second generation because Winsbury is not in Folley. But his hair goes up so I guess anything is possible. |
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Post by Per on Dec 24, 2014 22:52:37 GMT
Plus Paz was the only one who thought and dared to jump and search out Lindsey She was instructed to do that, through Shadow, but given that this happened, obviously the others thought Paz specifically had to be the one to jump ship before the destruction of the last beacon made that impossible. (Which I guess in turn means they knew that destroying the beacons wouldn't be enough to completely end the reality distortion, but getting the rain inside the ship would, adding to the impression that Zimham isn't as scary and ineffable now.) |
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Post by hifranc on Dec 25, 2014 13:07:18 GMT
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Post by OGRuddawg on Dec 25, 2014 23:00:28 GMT
On page 30, Basil's story is depicted in one of the ancient Greek vase carving styles.
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Post by alexsl on Dec 27, 2014 7:05:24 GMT
On the very next page, there is the shadowy outline of a person in the background, behind the door frame of panel 4, whose hairdo is consistent with Paz'. It seems as if she followed them, trying to listen, agonising... Only noticed that a few weeks ago.
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Post by Chancellor on Dec 27, 2014 7:30:37 GMT
Dutifully revisited in Catalyst if I recall, when Paz herself remembers watching them and feeling jealous.
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Post by TBeholder on Jan 3, 2015 14:23:38 GMT
I didn't see any mentions, but could miss one, so... no one brought up that page during the whole Chapter 49? |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jan 3, 2015 17:01:10 GMT
I didn't see any mentions, but could miss one, so... no one brought up that page during the whole Chapter 49? Bonus pages are not consider canon... Okay, I didn't remember this page or the Seraph eyes on the robot birds. But looking at it again, I think that page is more related to the conflict between S13 and the other Seraphs that occurred in the prior chapter than foreshadowing the conflict between Kat and the Seraphs. Kat certainly doesn't want to be friends at this point. |
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Post by keef on Jan 4, 2015 11:10:53 GMT
I didn't see any mentions, but could miss one, so... no one brought up that page during the whole Chapter 49? Bonus pages are not consider canon... |
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Post by Daedalus on Jan 4, 2015 18:58:06 GMT
I always assumed this referred only to the bonus pages at the end of chapters (shrug) |
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Post by keef on Jan 4, 2015 20:50:50 GMT
I always assumed this referred only to the bonus pages at the end of chapters (shrug) Don't shrug it of young man! All normal City Face comics are obviously super fine awesome canon. But these are questionable; Tom said guest comics are not canon, and states in his comment here : So you would assume they are not canon.. But:  Rey was so happy with his drawing he put it on the wall of his room, making it canon. If Renard's drawing is canon why would the others be not?  - This is how religious wars start
- Maybe I have to much time on my hands
- Hey! I just found out how to make lists
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jan 4, 2015 23:09:28 GMT
I always assumed this referred only to the bonus pages at the end of chapters (shrug) Don't shrug it of young man! All normal City Face comics are obviously super fine awesome canon. But these are questionable; Tom said guest comics are not canon, and states in his comment here : So you would assume they are not canon.. But: Rey was so happy with his drawing he put it on the wall of his room, making it canon. If Renard's drawing is canon why would the others be not? Now I am confused. I think I'll admit that I was wrong and try and stop thinking about this. |
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