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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 22, 2023 7:08:43 GMT
I'm sure that Lana appreciates how Antimony is making Jerrek cower in the corner. |
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Post by bicarbonat on May 22, 2023 7:17:50 GMT
Grade A cowering to be sure, but we're on a schedule and somebody's going to bring chaos and retribution at some point – is it you, Carrot Top, or the Lee Strasberg Theatre and Film Institute over here?
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Post by arf on May 22, 2023 7:27:10 GMT
Ah yes. The tooth is part of Coyote, so Loup would likely get another visitation if they gave it back.
Now I'm wondering what would happen if Loup got Renard's body borrowing back?
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Post by maxptc on May 22, 2023 7:41:26 GMT
Now to see if all that character development has allowed Annie to reach the emotional maturity needed to stab and murder a threat to her safety despite that threat begging, being trapped in a cage and maybe being in love. It's something I've always struggled with, but I have a lot of faith in violent over reactions.
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Post by csj on May 22, 2023 8:01:50 GMT
Ys Makes Worst God, Is Asked To Leave The Ether
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Post by gpvos on May 22, 2023 10:34:24 GMT
Annie may have to kill Loup at some point, but this doesn't seem like the right moment.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 22, 2023 11:13:16 GMT
I still think Antimony's going to need more motivation to actually end someone on purpose.  |
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Post by sosleepy on May 22, 2023 11:20:17 GMT
Wow Loup looks... genuinely scared. Not something you see every day.
And it is rather smart of him to choose ignorance instead of knowledge of a plan that might result in his death. But I wonder if this is already a self-fulfilling prophecy? Honestly I wouldn't want it to be the case.
And man, I feel bad for Annie. I can't imagine her ever fully accepting Loup. To her, he must still be a sick amalgamation of her two dear friends, yet a completely new and alien being that replaced the ones she was happy together with. I know it was Ysengrin who killed Coyote, but Loup is still a living symbol of all the chaos and catastrophic changes that came around.
You can even say that the moment of Loup's birth is the moment of Annie's childhood ending. And it may be the hardest thing to forgive there.
Also, Annie and Kat are absolutely badass here~
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Post by ctso74 on May 22, 2023 13:32:18 GMT
Ah yes. The tooth is part of Coyote, so Loup would likely get another visitation if they gave it back. Now I'm wondering what would happen if Loup got Renard's body borrowing back? Now I'm wondering if Lourrick will end up using the Tooth himself, to cut something hurting Lana. I'm betting he's still trapped in Coyote's plan. |
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Post by blahzor on May 22, 2023 14:14:56 GMT
classic i'm about to hand you this not stab you motion
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Post by Per on May 22, 2023 15:32:44 GMT
"Robot betrayed you before you betrayed him and that's how we know we can trust him and not you."
At the end of last page, Lana was actively getting in between Annie and Jerrek, here she's vanished without a trace.
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Post by rabbit on May 22, 2023 15:39:30 GMT
Ys Makes Worst God, Is Asked To Leave The Ether You Won't Believe what this Diety does after falling in love! And for all in the audience who approve of a lot of alliteration: Dangerous dog-god devolves into docile doting derp |
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 22, 2023 15:49:55 GMT
I dunno, Panel #2 looks like the Hammy School of Overacting to me.
Annie, listen to Rey, please.
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Post by Gemminie on May 22, 2023 16:04:18 GMT
Brandishing the dagger, Annie seemingly steps around Lana and demands explanations from the caged Jerrek, who is clearly afraid of the tooth. He pleads with Annie that he's given up on Coyote's plan and no longer wants the thing back. Annie looks astonished and holds the dagger away at this point.
Renard, however, rightly states that they have no reason to believe anything Loup says. In reply, Jerrek only restates that he came here to bring them news that he thought would help them.
Which should give them pause – he didn't have to come to them. He could have stayed hidden. He didn't have to reveal that he was Loup. He thought Robot had upheld his end of the deal and Annie/Kat/Renard didn't know any of this. So ... what should they do?
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 22, 2023 16:29:31 GMT
Panel 3: Jerrek's dialogue, "I don't want to know the rest of Coyote's plan! I don't want that damned tooth back! Throw it into to ocean for all I care!"
Completely missed that typo on first read, proud to say I did get it right away on the second. 3am upadate time probably played a role.
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Post by pyradonis on May 22, 2023 17:19:13 GMT
Wow Loup looks... genuinely scared. Not something you see every day. And it is rather smart of him to choose ignorance instead of knowledge of a plan that might result in his death. But I wonder if this is already a self-fulfilling prophecy? Honestly I wouldn't want it to be the case. And man, I feel bad for Annie. I can't imagine her ever fully accepting Loup. To her, he must still be a sick amalgamation of her two dear friends, yet a completely new and alien being that replaced the ones she was happy together with. I know it was Ysengrin who killed Coyote, but Loup is still a living symbol of all the chaos and catastrophic changes that came around. You can even say that the moment of Loup's birth is the moment of Annie's childhood ending. And it may be the hardest thing to forgive there. Also, Annie and Kat are absolutely badass here~ I hope that Annie realizes that this whole catastrophe is Coyote's plan and fault. |
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Post by laaaa on May 22, 2023 18:01:07 GMT
I still think Antimony's going to need more motivation to actually end someone on purpose. View Attachment I agree, although I wonder if her psychopomp nature has anything to do with this. "Yeees... Take Loup into the ether... Make a god wink out of existence... You'll never get another chance to do something like this... The end of his wretched existence will make the world spin..."(I'm 99% joking.) |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 22, 2023 18:17:54 GMT
I hope that Annie realizes that this whole catastrophe is Coyote's plan and fault. This is a good point in the story to remember that Ysengrin suffered decades of (narcissistic?) abuse and manipulation by Coyote. There's little wonder Ysengrin coveted Coyote's power and reimagined himself with it into his idealized form, one who would act how a proper canine god should act. Part of the reason (perhaps the main reason) that Jerrek is cowering right now is The Tooth contains not just power and memories but a continuation of that manipulation and abuse, which will probably end in his death. |
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Post by Sky Schemer on May 22, 2023 19:06:07 GMT
At the end of last page, Lana was actively getting in between Annie and Jerrek, here she's vanished without a trace. "Now that I've spoken up, I'll just step out of the way of the unstoppable, god-killing knife." |
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Post by sosleepy on May 22, 2023 19:27:23 GMT
Wow Loup looks... genuinely scared. Not something you see every day. And it is rather smart of him to choose ignorance instead of knowledge of a plan that might result in his death. But I wonder if this is already a self-fulfilling prophecy? Honestly I wouldn't want it to be the case. And man, I feel bad for Annie. I can't imagine her ever fully accepting Loup. To her, he must still be a sick amalgamation of her two dear friends, yet a completely new and alien being that replaced the ones she was happy together with. I know it was Ysengrin who killed Coyote, but Loup is still a living symbol of all the chaos and catastrophic changes that came around. You can even say that the moment of Loup's birth is the moment of Annie's childhood ending. And it may be the hardest thing to forgive there. Also, Annie and Kat are absolutely badass here~ I hope that Annie realizes that this whole catastrophe is Coyote's plan and fault. Eh, actually I wouldn't be surprised if his plan is complete lack of plan and he was just messing around. Perhaps Coyote didn't even mean "death" in a literal sense. You can "die" of laughter too after all, so who knows... Well, Coyote knows, but we're not asking him! |
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Post by sosleepy on May 22, 2023 19:52:28 GMT
I hope that Annie realizes that this whole catastrophe is Coyote's plan and fault. This is a good point in the story to remember that Ysengrin suffered decades of (narcissistic?) abuse and manipulation by Coyote. There's little wonder Ysengrin coveted Coyote's power and reimagined himself with it into his idealized form, one who would act how a proper canine god should act. Part of the reason (perhaps the main reason) that Jerrek is cowering right now is The Tooth contains not just power and memories but a continuation of that manipulation and abuse, which will probably end in his death. Can't agree more. Coyote was indeed a cruel guy. But being a god his moral compass could be different from ours as well. Perhaps he didn't bear any ill will towards Ysengrin or Loup and it's all just him showing his care in a very VERY warped sense. And as we can see Loup being scared of Coyote and his plan, I also think that Loup might be afraid of becoming like Coyote himself—scared of being a god. It's no good being omniscient and omnipotent because, just like Coyote, he would be consumed with the absolute boredom of his existence. And what's more, he could simply stop caring about anything, including Lana, and I'm sure Loup doesn't want that. |
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Post by Runningflame on May 22, 2023 20:00:08 GMT
These are difficult times that call for difficult decisions. But I hope Annie still remembers that she's supposed to be a diplomat. I hope that Annie realizes that this whole catastrophe is Coyote's plan and fault. Eh, actually I wouldn't be surprised if his plan is complete lack of plan and he was just messing around. Perhaps Coyote didn't even mean "death" in a literal sense. You can "die" of laughter too after all, so who knows... Well, Coyote knows, but we're not asking him! Hey, why not? CoyoteReborn , anything to say about this? |
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Post by guntherkrieg on May 22, 2023 21:55:05 GMT
Stab first, questions never.
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Post by guntherkrieg on May 22, 2023 21:56:33 GMT
This has "Q turned to human and sent to serve on the Enterprise" all over it.
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Post by maxptc on May 22, 2023 23:43:45 GMT
I hope that Annie realizes that this whole catastrophe is Coyote's plan and fault. Eh, actually I wouldn't be surprised if his plan is complete lack of plan and he was just messing around. Perhaps Coyote didn't even mean "death" in a literal sense. You can "die" of laughter too after all, so who knows... Well, Coyote knows, but we're not asking him! That would surprise me way more then everything that has happened being a very intentional long term plot of Coyote. Maybe he didn't mean death literally, but means for Loup to straight up cease existing. Not that I think that, just that it would be more likely, in my veiw. It just feels like a very generous read of Coyete, who is as close to a big bad as this comic has. As pyradonis has said, Coyote is the one responsible for all this. Because of how fun Coyete was and because we didnt(dont?) have the full picture of his plot, it's easy to forget that everything Loup has done is a direct result of Coyetes master plan. He would be responsible even if he hadn't been long term planting totems and directly pulling the strings with memory related abuse. Now that I'm thinking on it, every act of kindness by Coyete has also furthered his plot. I bet they were manipulations above anything else. If it turns out Coyete plan was just to let Loup do whatever, I'll be very disappointed. This is also kind of a reply to your other post, just not directly. |
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Post by Gemini Jim on May 23, 2023 1:40:11 GMT
This has "Q turned to human and sent to serve on the Enterprise" all over it. With Coyote providing the mariachi? |
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Post by thatgaywolf on May 23, 2023 2:31:59 GMT
Wonder what would happen if the the tooth WAS thrown into the star ocean…
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Post by sosleepy on May 23, 2023 14:02:20 GMT
Eh, actually I wouldn't be surprised if his plan is complete lack of plan and he was just messing around. Perhaps Coyote didn't even mean "death" in a literal sense. You can "die" of laughter too after all, so who knows... Well, Coyote knows, but we're not asking him! That would surprise me way more then everything that has happened being a very intentional long term plot of Coyote. Maybe he didn't mean death literally, but means for Loup to straight up cease existing. Not that I think that, just that it would be more likely, in my veiw. It just feels like a very generous read of Coyete, who is as close to a big bad as this comic has. As pyradonis has said, Coyote is the one responsible for all this. Because of how fun Coyete was and because we didnt(dont?) have the full picture of his plot, it's easy to forget that everything Loup has done is a direct result of Coyetes master plan. He would be responsible even if he hadn't been long term planting totems and directly pulling the strings with memory related abuse. Now that I'm thinking on it, every act of kindness by Coyete has also furthered his plot. I bet they were manipulations above anything else. If it turns out Coyete plan was just to let Loup do whatever, I'll be very disappointed. This is also kind of a reply to your other post, just not directly. Well, perhaps it could be a part of Coyote's plan for Loup to do whatever because we still have no idea what goals could he possibly pursue by all of this. Perhaps he wanted to destroy the status quo between the Court and the Forest but the Court was always on the losing side in terms of sheer power and was practically at his mercy at all times so he could ravage it himself. Or he thought that this whole story would be much more interesting without him as an actor. He likes to observe things after all. I think there was something Loup could do what Coyote wasn't able to. The only question is what is that thing exactly. And actually I'm not sure that stealing Ysengrins memories was a vile type manipulation. He was asking him the same question over and over again and the answer was the same every time. Maybe he was expecting some kind of a change and when he was done waiting he decided that Ysengrin needs a push towards it. For better or worse. And about Loup's death too. Coyote said that Loup will die once he knows Coyotes plan but he didn't say he will die this instant. And he didn't say Loup would be killed either. Loup might cease existing as a god and become human and then he would be able to die of old age unlike a gog he is now. Or he might split back into Ysengrin and Jerrek and Coyote what would mean "death" as well. |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 23, 2023 21:21:27 GMT
Wonder what would happen if the the tooth WAS thrown into the star ocean… Welcome to the forum! I'm not sure what would happen but I think the star ocean (adjusted to suck Coyote power) should be able to eat it if someone threw it in far enough, though I'm not sure how far that would be. If it doesn't go far enough, I guess nothing would happen. It'd sink. Maybe it'd perpetually produce a small amount of oxygen and hydrogen from the water coming into contact with the edge? |
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Post by Igniz on May 24, 2023 2:59:52 GMT
I'm betting he's still trapped in Coyote's plan. +1 In fact, I think they all are. |
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