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Post by imaginaryfriend on Apr 24, 2023 7:07:01 GMT
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Post by arf on Apr 24, 2023 7:17:38 GMT
Jerrek: Robot has been talking to Loup
Kat: How do you know?
Jerrek: I... overheard what was said.
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Post by arf on Apr 24, 2023 7:19:44 GMT
Coyote's plan for misanthropic Loup was for him to fall in lurv (with a human/new person).
When he did, he agreed it was a very good plan, and passed controls to the Jerrek persona.
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 24, 2023 8:14:41 GMT
I think Loup should take a break from LARPing. This is getting out of hand.
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Post by blahzor on Apr 24, 2023 8:19:43 GMT
Jerrek: you know that Loup guy is trouble let's warn the angel about him as well
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Post by philman on Apr 24, 2023 9:16:19 GMT
You know what the Angel would really love? Information on where Loup is hiding! We should totally tell her!
Loup's levels of logic astound me.
Also looks like I was wrong about Loup being angry at the lack of respect given to a fellow god, he actually has gone almost full dead goose.
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Post by rafk on Apr 24, 2023 9:36:46 GMT
Loup is really Librarian-poo, to use a Discworldism. Completely Bursar. Needs a lot of dried frog pills.
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Post by blahzor on Apr 24, 2023 9:36:57 GMT
You know what the Angel would really love? Information on where Loup is hiding! We should totally tell her! Loup's levels of logic astound me. Also looks like I was wrong about Loup being angry at the lack of respect given to a fellow god, he actually has gone almost full dead goose. Well Loup would be angry because he's irrationaly angry but Jerrek he's cool |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Apr 24, 2023 10:24:15 GMT
Something that popped into my head is that one of the reasons Gunnerkrigg is so good is that a lot of the characters have enough going on in their little bubbles that they could be the main character of some other alternate comic.
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Post by silicondream on Apr 24, 2023 10:34:07 GMT
It's a bit reassuring that Lana describes Robot as "a nice guy" rather than "the most holy and infallible prophet of the Angel" or some such. The New People may look to him for advice, but apparently they don't think he's way above them. Well, he also asked that Loup not interfere with Kat's work. Considering that she more or less lives to work, that should rule out most of the obvious ways Loup could mess with Kat herself. |
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Post by Corvo on Apr 24, 2023 12:13:12 GMT
The Angel is in distress?! Quick, let's tell her one of her closest friends is a traitor, that'll cheer her up!
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Post by Angry Individual on Apr 24, 2023 13:28:22 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if Kat was aware of Robot's shenanigans the whole time, and is casual when Jerrek/Loup tells her.
Purely because it seems like something she'd shrug off saying "he's just weird like that".
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Post by ctso74 on Apr 24, 2023 13:46:55 GMT
How exactly is that going to turn out?:
Jerrik: "You know how you're protecting us?"
Kat: "Yeah..."
Jerrik: "Well, I'm crazy 'faux' NP."
Kat: "... Wha-"
Jerrik: "Yeah, I'm Loup. Robot knows."
Considering how blunt Loup can be, the next comic may start with Kat and Annie, jaws open, looking at a smiling Jerrik.
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Post by Gemminie on Apr 24, 2023 16:09:36 GMT
The conversation between Jerrek and Lana continues, and they're still in some abandoned apartment building somewhere in the Court. Lana "heard" that some of the New People are going to Kat trying to console her. But where did she hear about this, if they're both holed up in this building? Well, the New People do have to eat, so they must have to leave sometime (unless Loup conjures food out of nothing, which he could certainly do, but we don't know if that's what's happening). The fact that Lana has "heard" anything means that they can't be spending all their time apart from the rest of the New People, though.
Jerrek thinks they should also go try to console Kat, but then, interestingly, he wants to tell her that Robot is a traitor – and the way he says it implies that he's considered Robot a traitor for some time and already wanted to tell Kat about this. The way Lana responds to this implies that he's told her about this already.
Jerrek reminds us (with a flashback inset panel) that Robot made a deal with Loup (Loup wouldn't interfere with the Angel and the New People, and Robot wouldn't reveal Loup's identity). He calls Loup "a monster," interestingly. He also says that Robot made this deal "for his own protection at the expense of everyone else." Well, he was also protecting Kat and the New People, not just himself. And was it really at the expense of everyone else? Kat and the New People got protection from Loup, but the price was not knowing Jerrek was really Loup, so they got a quid pro quo. Now, everyone other than Robot, Kat, and the New People did lose something, in that Robot could have warned others about Loup's disguise and chose not to, but that's not "everyone else" (though it's the vast majority of everyone else).
And then, in a humorous aside, Lana reminds Jerrek that it was he himself that Robot made that deal with. Jerrek is unmoved, considering that a pointless detail and saying it's the principle of the thing. Robot betrayed the Angel, making a deal with Loup behind her back. He's therefore a traitor, whether or not the being he made that deal with is in the room right now.
So, um, he's really going to do this? When this could jeopardize his happiness? I mean, what happens if he goes and tells Kat that Robot made a deal with Loup? Kat's going to wonder how he knows. Robot may consider that to be breaking the deal and expose Jerrek as Loup. It's not as if Lana doesn't know already, so maybe Loup and Lana could go off somewhere and be happy together, but Loup wouldn't be able to walk unrecognized in the Court anymore. Things are about to get crazy.
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Post by TBeholder on Apr 24, 2023 17:06:36 GMT
“I am angry. Angry about everything.”
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Post by Eily on Apr 24, 2023 17:38:26 GMT
It's a bit reassuring that Lana describes Robot as "a nice guy" rather than "the most holy and infallible prophet of the Angel" or some such. The New People may look to him for advice, but apparently they don't think he's way above them. Well, I wouldn't consider Lana as a good representation of what other NPs believe, since she has very different knowledge about the pieces on the chessboard. She's also a pretty bad example if you're trying to demonstrate that NPs aren't going to blindly follow one individual. She does show that NPs can be surprising and have their very own feelings and emotions though, so your conclusion probably still holds |
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Post by fia on Apr 24, 2023 19:17:32 GMT
Gotta be honest, Jerrek is hilarious.
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Post by rabbit on Apr 24, 2023 20:17:08 GMT
Loup's levels of logic astound me. I don't know, that level of logic tracks pretty accurate for some teens/20-somethings (sez rabbit, an old fart alternately desperately trying to forget/recalling with wry humor some of the idiocies he survived in his teens and 20s) |
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Post by frogspawned on Apr 24, 2023 21:08:25 GMT
This Jerrek fella reminds me of a dead goose.
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Post by blahzor on Apr 24, 2023 22:58:22 GMT
It's a bit reassuring that Lana describes Robot as "a nice guy" rather than "the most holy and infallible prophet of the Angel" or some such. The New People may look to him for advice, but apparently they don't think he's way above them. Well, he also asked that Loup not interfere with Kat's work. Considering that she more or less lives to work, that should rule out most of the obvious ways Loup could mess with Kat herself. Might be Lana thing because she's dating a gawd |
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Post by Gemini Jim on Apr 25, 2023 0:03:54 GMT
Reminds me of an old joke:
"If the Angel needs cheering up, I know just the thing. You should tell her the news about that monster Loup."
"But doctor, I AM Loup!"
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Post by drmemory on Apr 25, 2023 1:03:13 GMT
Bwah hah hah!
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Post by taothegreat on Apr 25, 2023 2:57:19 GMT
Gotta be honest, Jerrek is hilarious. Absolutely agreed. I wasn't a huge fan of Loup but Jerrek has been a consistent delight. |
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Post by lightshade on Apr 25, 2023 6:20:31 GMT
Honestly, watching Loup lose himself as the persona of Jerrek might be the funniest thing I've seen in this comic in YEARS.  What could have been played for creepy drama is instead amusing to wach. |
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Post by blahzor on Apr 25, 2023 7:50:50 GMT
Gotta be honest, Jerrek is hilarious. What's the name of his HBO special |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Apr 25, 2023 9:00:30 GMT
Reminds me of an old joke: "If the Angel needs cheering up, I know just the thing. You should tell her the news about that monster Loup." "But doctor, I AM Loup!" Curtains close. Roll of snare drum. Everyone laugh. |
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Post by heranje on Apr 25, 2023 11:30:09 GMT
Dead Goose alert.
This makes me understand more why we suddenly had a diversion into a beauty and the beast romance plot. Pre-being in love with Lana, Jerroup was swapping back and forth between forms pretty frequently. Something tells me he's been in full Jerrek mode for a while now.
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Post by Per on Apr 25, 2023 12:52:09 GMT
he actually has gone almost full dead goose. This Jerrek fella reminds me of a dead goose. Him still being perfectly aware of who he is is literally the page's punchline. |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 25, 2023 14:51:49 GMT
Jerrek reminds us (with a flashback inset panel) that Robot made a deal with Loup (Loup wouldn't interfere with the Angel and the New People, and Robot wouldn't reveal Loup's identity). He calls Loup "a monster," interestingly. He also says that Robot made this deal "for his own protection at the expense of everyone else." Well, he was also protecting Kat and the New People, not just himself. And was it really at the expense of everyone else? Kat and the New People got protection from Loup, but the price was not knowing Jerrek was really Loup, so they got a quid pro quo. Now, everyone other than Robot, Kat, and the New People did lose something, in that Robot could have warned others about Loup's disguise and chose not to, but that's not "everyone else" (though it's the vast majority of everyone else). At the risk of sounding nitpicky, S13 did not ask Loup to not harm Kat. S13 only asked that Loup not harm the NP and not "interfere with the work of the Angel". Now of course, our first thought would be that harming Kat would be certainly count as interfering with the work of the Angel, but I wouldn't put it past a certain robot who apparently likes to use an angel form as his avatar in cyberspace and was implied to want this form for his final NP body as well, that he would be fine with carrying on the Angel's work himself, without said Angel around. |
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Post by heranje on Apr 25, 2023 17:53:13 GMT
Him still being perfectly aware of who he is is literally the page's punchline. I can't speak for the others, but personally I'm using "dead goose" more to refer to Loup becoming deeply immersed in the Jerrek persona, having his mind be a plaything of his body, and "forgetting who he is" in the sense that he's forgetting his original motivations and perspective. Clearly he still knows he is Loup, but that fact doesn't seem to matter to him as much. Which, to me, signals that he's currently on the path to going full dead goose (though I suspect that path will be interrupted before he gets to the end point). |
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What could have been played for creepy drama is instead amusing to wach.
