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Post by philman on Mar 27, 2023 7:03:33 GMT
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Post by mochakimono on Mar 27, 2023 7:08:49 GMT
Leaving Kat? Leaving the Court? The UK? Earth?
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Post by aline on Mar 27, 2023 7:09:07 GMT
Well, she can't be leaving to sail on the magical space ocean. They wouldn't allow her, she has etheric abilities. So she must be planning to go home.
I get it honestly. She came here to attend a school, but right now there is no school, soon most of the administration that gave paying jobs will be AWOL, and there's an angry psychophatic god roaming the place. Annie and Kat were born to Court families, but Paz had to move away. What reason does she still have to be this far from her family? What future is there for her here?
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Post by madjack on Mar 27, 2023 7:09:35 GMT
Leaving Kat? Leaving the Court? The UK? Earth? It can't be going with the Court, she didn't get an invite. Has she accepted she really can't change them from within? Doesn't see any point in staying if they're just going to leave her behind in the end? Or does she just mean breaking up with Kat? Leaning towards A+B which means C by extension. |
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Post by silicondream on Mar 27, 2023 7:13:52 GMT
Man, I knew that's why Kat was thinking about leaving. And they don't know Paz has a connection to the ether, do they? Because she's never done anything for the mice themselves.
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Post by madjack on Mar 27, 2023 7:16:37 GMT
And they don't know Paz has a connection to the ether, do they? Because she's never done anything for the mice themselves. They do know though, it's likely why they got her. Jack found information about it in the school files. I reckon Kat was considering going with the Court because she realised how impressive Omega must be if the star ocean project was built for it. |
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Post by philman on Mar 27, 2023 7:31:01 GMT
I guess if you become so disillusioned by the court then leaving is the natural response. Perhaps Kat was the only thing keeping her here, and now that Kat has gone this far even that is gone and broken.
The thing I worry about is what happens when Kat finds out and tries to "fix" things. I worry how far Kat has gone down the "I have the power to do anything" hole.
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Post by silicondream on Mar 27, 2023 7:31:32 GMT
And they don't know Paz has a connection to the ether, do they? Because she's never done anything for the mice themselves. They do know though, it's likely why they got her. Jack found information about it in the school files. I reckon Kat was considering going with the Court because she realised how impressive Omega must be if the star ocean project was built for it. They know Paz likes to talk to her mice. But do they know the mice talk back? Or are they just impressed at how healthy and stable and obedient the mice are? (this is today's wildspec, is all.) |
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Post by blahzor on Mar 27, 2023 8:00:37 GMT
Paz taking a jet plane
Also it's probably her parents recalling her due to court leaving plus the danger
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Post by madjack on Mar 27, 2023 8:06:46 GMT
Paz taking a jet plane Also it's probably her parents recalling her due to court leaving plus the danger Do her parents even know what goes on in the Court? No evidence either way but if the Court wants to preserve its secrecy then I'd wager they don't know much of anything. |
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Post by blahzor on Mar 27, 2023 9:03:26 GMT
Paz taking a jet plane Also it's probably her parents recalling her due to court leaving plus the danger Do her parents even know what goes on in the Court? No evidence either way but if the Court wants to preserve its secrecy then I'd wager they don't know much of anything. I mean they probably get BS updates on how it's going for her and then suddenly the people they did talk to disappeared to a different planet, they might actually call her and then ask her to come back |
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Post by aline on Mar 27, 2023 9:05:24 GMT
They know Paz likes to talk to her mice. But do they know the mice talk back? Or are they just impressed at how healthy and stable and obedient the mice are? (this is today's wildspec, is all.) Somebody else already pointed out Paz didn't get an invite to the Court's "gowing away" briefing. Kat is aware of that since she's the one who told Annie. Kat 100% knows that if she leaves on the star ocean she won't see Paz (or her parents, or Annie) ever again. |
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Post by madjack on Mar 27, 2023 9:14:10 GMT
Do her parents even know what goes on in the Court? No evidence either way but if the Court wants to preserve its secrecy then I'd wager they don't know much of anything. I mean they probably get BS updates on how it's going for her and then suddenly the people they did talk to disappeared to a different planet, they might actually call her and then ask her to come back Actually, their main contact might be her home class teacher, and I think that's still Anja, who isn't going anywhere. I just don't think it's a parental thing for writing reasons: It takes away from Paz' agency as a character for those kinds of decisions to be made for her, and she doesn't have the kind of narrative focus Annie did when say, Tony came back to make 'parents pulling me out' anything but a cheap deus exit machina. |
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Post by blahzor on Mar 27, 2023 9:18:49 GMT
I think it's just a highlight of them still not being 18 while living their lives in the court as if they are 6 young 20 something's living above a coffee shop in New York
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Mar 27, 2023 9:45:16 GMT
Paz can take Kat's account, um... body, with her. Kat doesn't seem too concerned about it anymore.
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Post by rafk on Mar 27, 2023 10:15:58 GMT
OK, if anything is going to spark Kat revealing she can hear them (and also going "too far") this is it. Buckle up!
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Post by arf on Mar 27, 2023 10:39:18 GMT
Paz can take Kat's account, um... body, with her. Kat doesn't seem too concerned about it anymore.
Chapter 89: Weekend at Donlan's |
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Post by gpvos on Mar 27, 2023 10:42:56 GMT
Kat being able to build a huge computer like this so quickly must be largely thanks to the seed bismuth. Which leads to the question: will the Court take the seed bismuth with them over the star ocean? I doubt it, since it's an etheric item, but what would the court be without it? And if they do take it with them, Kat and the other left-behinds will have little reason to stay where they are since the area isn't that special anymore.
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Post by storyteller on Mar 27, 2023 11:53:49 GMT
... Well that gives a reason for Kat to go too far. Especially of the hears a problem tries to fix problem bent, especially if she only gets a reason, not the reason but a reason second hand from Annie for why.
And then goes too far trying to fix what she thinks is the main reason for Paz leaving.
Because I don't think Kat would pull a Diego.
That said I do think it's very much the situation at the Court not Kat driving this decision. Paz was firmly told that the Court won't listen to her and has actively refused to ever with how they are leaving her and others behind. And after that... Well there does not seem to be enough for a functioning Court at this time once they leave.
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Post by blahzor on Mar 27, 2023 12:28:25 GMT
Paz can take Kat's account, um... body, with her. Kat doesn't seem too concerned about it anymore.
Chapter 89: Weekend at Donlan's She always wanted to go to McDonlan's |
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Post by guntherkrieg on Mar 27, 2023 12:29:06 GMT
Question: why has the "rolling restart" activated a lot of the machines? What is Kat now building? Unless the machines are returning to default position but... it seems to dramatically focused for that.
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Post by guntherkrieg on Mar 27, 2023 12:30:18 GMT
... Well that gives a reason for Kat to go too far. Especially of the hears a problem tries to fix problem bent, especially if she only gets a reason, not the reason but a reason second hand from Annie for why. And then goes too far trying to fix what she thinks is the main reason for Paz leaving. Because I don't think Kat would pull a Diego. That said I do think it's very much the situation at the Court not Kat driving this decision. Paz was firmly told that the Court won't listen to her and has actively refused to ever with how they are leaving her and others behind. And after that... Well there does not seem to be enough for a functioning Court at this time once they leave. In a bit of dramatic irony... Kat doesn't pull a Diego, because "he stood back and did nothing". No, Kat's going to end up doing EVERYTHING to stop her lady love from leaving. |
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 27, 2023 13:35:19 GMT
Waited till she was certain, that Kat couldn't hear.
Honestly though, she'd make a great vet somewhere more normal.
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 27, 2023 14:57:08 GMT
After a panoramic first frame suggesting time passing (and Paz typing), we see Paz and Annie looking at the console while Kat tells them that a rolling restart of something (presumably some set of systems) will begin when they hit Enter. We see the screen, which again is just some white text on a black background, as Kat says she'll be incommunicado until this process is done, but she can get them out if they return to the place where they came in. (Do they remember how to get back there?) And then Paz presses Enter.
There are some noises as they walk away from the console. It may be that this process is doing more than just restarting servers; those servers may reset the positions of some mechanical components as they restart.
And then they talk some more. Annie asks whether Paz was so subdued today because of her concern for Kat. But Paz's reply is a pretty major "Yes, and." She says, "I'm leaving."
Leaving? Does she mean she's leaving Kat? Or does she mean she's going back home? Paz is the only character who came from outside the Court whose home we've seen in any detail (in "Traveller"). With the Court packing up to go to another planet and with Paz not going along, that does put Paz among the many students (and adults) who will be left behind without any further education, and possibly without working infrastructure, in the very near future. Perhaps she's thinking about her future. Unless the Court is taking care of the students it's leaving behind in some way (setting up school transfers, etc.), she'll be left in the regular normal world without a high school diploma. Her family isn't the wealthiest; the money the Court sent while Paz was attending school there was sorely needed. Now that that money's presumably drying up, she'll have to find some other way to help her family.
So my guess is that she's leaving the Court and going back home to Spain. I guess that means that either she doesn't think she can continue their relationship after that, or that she just hasn't told Kat yet, so whether it can be worked out or not, the thought is casting a pall over her every interaction with Kat. Will Paz be breaking up with Kat? Or will their relationship become a long-distance (possibly trans-dimensional) one?
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Post by rabbit on Mar 27, 2023 16:21:24 GMT
I also think "leaving" means Paz is leaving the Court, most likely to go back to Spain. But I don't think it is because of Annie's closeness to Kat, or because Kat's work is more important to her than Paz, but because she doesn't want to be around when Kat dies (or becomes something that is no longer Kat). I am not sure whether she is leaving the relationship.
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 27, 2023 17:31:39 GMT
I just don't think it's a parental thing for writing reasons: It takes away from Paz' agency as a character for those kinds of decisions to be made for her Too much anime?  OK, if anything is going to spark Kat revealing she can hear them (and also going "too far") this is it. Buckle up! Or maybe she was cut off right after hearing this. Not really. Paz probably told her first. |
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Post by sosleepy on Mar 27, 2023 19:47:29 GMT
I think it's just a highlight of them still not being 18 while living their lives in the court as if they are 6 young 20 something's living above a coffee shop in New York Sounds right to me. It's rather easy to forget they're still teenagers. Paz parents are not affiliated with the Court in any way so it's only natural for them to get her out of there considering the danger. Also i'm not sure if there's even a school anymore for her to attend. Plus dealing with all the crazy stuff including insane godlike beings, dangerous forest creatures and ominous Court plans could've been hard on Paz as well. And we shouldn't forget about robot zombies we saw in the beginning of the chapter. |
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Post by drmemory on Mar 27, 2023 20:07:32 GMT
Question: why has the "rolling restart" activated a lot of the machines? What is Kat now building? Unless the machines are returning to default position but... it seems to dramatically focused for that. I still think she's hacking the court's computers. The rolling restart is to propagate her software into them as they reboot. |
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Post by drmemory on Mar 27, 2023 20:13:25 GMT
Given that Paz isn't invited to the Star Ocean thing, and that her parents aren't in the court (which we know from one of Tom's bonus comics), I'd guess she's going home to be with her family and crippled dog and cows. Maybe pulled out of school due to recent events, at a guess. Or maybe just because it isn't really much of a school any more! Wouldn't the girls be in 6th form by now, if the school were functioning?
I'd say 70% chance she's going home, 25% she's transferring to a school where she can actually graduate someday, 5% she's dropping out to move to the big city.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 27, 2023 22:44:39 GMT
Regarding all the questions whether there has been any school since Loup's attack: Well, sort of. No classes, but course work to do at home (getting major Covid lockdown vibes, why didn't I notice when this page came out?). Question: why has the "rolling restart" activated a lot of the machines? What is Kat now building? Unless the machines are returning to default position but... it seems to dramatically focused for that. I still think she's hacking the court's computers. The rolling restart is to propagate her software into them as they reboot. That's not really an answer to the question... Unless we assume this whole place and the machines and servers in there do not belong to Kat. Which would require her to have been lying to her girlfriend and her best friend all the time. Which, in my opinion, makes no sense, since at least Annie already knew Kat wanted to hack the Court. Leaving Kat? Leaving the Court? The UK? Earth? It can't be going with the Court, she didn't get an invite. Has she accepted she really can't change them from within? Doesn't see any point in staying if they're just going to leave her behind in the end? Or does she just mean breaking up with Kat? Leaning towards A+B which means C by extension. Long distance relationships are a thing. Though I admit I haven't ever heard of teenagers being able to pull one off successfully. |
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