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Post by arf on Feb 13, 2023 8:09:45 GMT
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Post by jda on Feb 13, 2023 8:11:05 GMT
RIP PazKat
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Post by aline on Feb 13, 2023 8:30:19 GMT
Why do I get the feeling this is the last we see of Kat, as such? No, it'd be too dark if she were lost forever. Kat is a kid and the story's second protagonist. But we are heading into a pretty glum and bumpy road, that's for sure. |
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Post by basser on Feb 13, 2023 8:44:58 GMT
If Paz gets salty when she coulda just been like "nah" I'ma be so mad.
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Post by blahzor on Feb 13, 2023 8:58:30 GMT
Chekhov magnet coil
Paz will steal this to delay it all
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Post by rafk on Feb 13, 2023 8:58:52 GMT
My favourite rock song of all time. Have an upvote. |
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Post by blahzor on Feb 13, 2023 8:59:14 GMT
If Paz gets salty when she coulda just been like "nah" I'ma be so mad. She knows it's going to happen no matter what. Might as be around and try and change it a bit |
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Post by rafk on Feb 13, 2023 9:00:50 GMT
Remember kids -
"Probably the last sound heard before the Universe folded up like a paper hat would be someone saying, “What happens if I do this?" -
Terry Pratchett, Interesting Times
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Post by arf on Feb 13, 2023 9:01:34 GMT
Why do I get the feeling this is the last we see of Kat, as such? No, it'd be too dark if she were lost forever. Kat is a kid and the story's second protagonist. But we are heading into a pretty glum and bumpy road, that's for sure. At this point, the 'kid' is 16-17, and we have had premonitions |
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Post by laaaa on Feb 13, 2023 9:56:41 GMT
I can't believe Annie is going along with this, after all.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 13, 2023 10:11:20 GMT
On reflection, I think the most interesting thing about this page is Kat's word choice. She says "when it's installed" instead of "implanted" or something similar.
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Post by aline on Feb 13, 2023 10:27:15 GMT
No, it'd be too dark if she were lost forever. Kat is a kid and the story's second protagonist. But we are heading into a pretty glum and bumpy road, that's for sure. At this point, the 'kid' is 16-17, and we have had premonitionsI still think Kat essentially dying / being lost forever is too dark for the tone of the comic. Plus, I believe the plot so far only makes sense if Annie is meant to prevent such a disaster from happening. Kat saved Annie, broke time and fate to bring her back from the dead. Annie will save Kat too. |
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Post by worldsong on Feb 13, 2023 10:34:49 GMT
On reflection, I think the most interesting thing about this page is Kat's word choice. She says "when it's installed" instead of "implanted" or something similar. It makes sense that when you successfully design an entirely new type of synthetic lifeform based on human biology it'd affect how you look at humans as well. |
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Post by laaaa on Feb 13, 2023 10:46:10 GMT
No, it'd be too dark if she were lost forever. Kat is a kid and the story's second protagonist. But we are heading into a pretty glum and bumpy road, that's for sure. At this point, the 'kid' is 16-17, and we have had premonitionsYIKES. I didn't realise that particular panel was ominous. See ya, indeed. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Feb 13, 2023 10:48:35 GMT
Can the magnetic coil also deactivate it? Will Annie or Paz keep the magnetic coil for the future?
It appears the extra things Paz required are the light, something to hold the tray instead of the table, and a couple things to sit on. |
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Post by philman on Feb 13, 2023 11:45:48 GMT
IS it just me or over the last few pages have there been a lot of comments trying to read the worst possible intentions/meanings into Paz's relatively few and very neutral sounding words. I really don't get the dislike she receives for very minor things.
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Post by laaaa on Feb 13, 2023 12:43:24 GMT
IS it just me or over the last few pages have there been a lot of comments trying to read the worst possible intentions/meanings into Paz's relatively few and very neutral sounding words. I really don't get the dislike she receives for very minor things. I agree. Paz has acted out exactly once in the past, with Kat's best interest in mind, and not without some cause. She even expressed regret afterwards (character growth!) Right now she's just being reservedly supportive (a good quality for a SO when you're doing something innovative but potentially dangerous). |
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Post by pyradonis on Feb 13, 2023 13:46:04 GMT
Watch Paz more than making up for Annie's bedside manner.
Seriously though, why is Annie going along with this? In panel 2, she looks as if this is the last thing she wants to do, but she's doing it.
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Post by storyteller on Feb 13, 2023 13:59:10 GMT
Watch Paz more than making up for Annie's bedside manner. Seriously though, why is Annie going along with this? In panel 2, she looks as if this is the last thing she wants to do, but she's doing it. I think for the same reason Paz did, neither look happy about this. The next individuals on Kat's list to ask would be the robots who would do most things Kat would ask them to. Kat doesn't stop with them - she just goes and gets individuals less qualified than them. And they're frankly not qualified in the first place. |
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Post by doran on Feb 13, 2023 14:10:37 GMT
I’m starting to wonder if that’s not Paz at all, and if the Robots have either replaced or hijacked her.
Seriously though. no-one has investigated *how* Zimmy thinks Kat is going to kill her? It could be by accident.
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Post by fia on Feb 13, 2023 14:30:42 GMT
Shades of www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=519 haha -- I dunno, Paz has the face of someone who is thinking, "I love this person so much, and now they're heading down a road I'm not sure I'll be able to follow. Because I love them I'm going to be supportive and hope for the best." Hashtag: been-there Annie is probably like, well, nothing else Kat has done recently is something I've been able to understand right away, but she's my best friend (and a techno-goddess who created a new species of person through the synthesis of biology and robotics) so here we go I guess, Cyborg Kat Time |
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Post by ctso74 on Feb 13, 2023 15:21:25 GMT
That's exactly what popped into my head. |
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Post by ohthatone on Feb 13, 2023 15:46:09 GMT
Yeah, paz lookin like she's going to support kat through this but breakup is imminent. Also, I understand this is just an under the skin implant, but why is kat so confident annie really knows what she's doing? Is she trying to turn this into a bonding moment?
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Post by mitten on Feb 13, 2023 16:43:42 GMT
Obviously this whole setup feels extremely ominous, but what really stands out to me is Paz' very neutral facial expression throughout. Perhaps a deliberate artistic choice, in order for us to read various positive or negative motives into her behavior? Whatever her motivations may be, Kat is clearly going ahead with this regardless. I just hope Annie isn't going to be the sole person blamed for the negative fallout.
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Post by Dvandaemon on Feb 13, 2023 17:41:52 GMT
If Paz gets salty when she coulda just been like "nah" I'ma be so mad. She knows it's going to happen no matter what. Might as be around and try and change it a bit That has been her standard operating procedure IS it just me or over the last few pages have there been a lot of comments trying to read the worst possible intentions/meanings into Paz's relatively few and very neutral sounding words. I really don't get the dislike she receives for very minor things. I agree. Paz has acted out exactly once in the past, with Kat's best interest in mind, and not without some cause. She even expressed regret afterwards (character growth!) Right now she's just being reservedly supportive (a good quality for a SO when you're doing something innovative but potentially dangerous). Could be projection, on their part and yours. Theirs because they're as anxious as they're saying Paz is. Yours because you're reading negativity into that. |
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Post by Gemminie on Feb 13, 2023 17:53:42 GMT
In the first panel we see Kat, leaning forward in a chair, with Paz sitting on a bench facing her and touching her arm and knee, possibly bracing her for stability. Annie stands behind her, wearing white probably latex gloves, apparently prepping something. Kat's back is lit by a lamp that looks a lot like the chapter's title image.
Then we see Annie, still looking rather worried, telling Kat that she'll "feel a little coldness at first." This is probably due to the inevitable alcohol swab or possibly the local anesthetic, but Kat just assents. She then looks over toward a table and says the implant has to be activated using a magnetic coil device, which we see. Kat then gleefully exults about how cool this is going to be, but then we focus on Paz, who isn't smiling at all.
Kat seems very gung-ho about this latest invention of hers, but that's not so unusual; she's often (but not always) enthusiastic about things she's just created. But she's being entirely oblivious to Paz's and Annie's reactions, which are similar if probably slightly different in origin. It looks like Annie's been convinced to not just go along with it but to actually wield the scalpel. I have to wonder whether Kat's already done something to her own brain via drugs, electromagnetic stimulation, or just psyching herself up to this. Kat's behavior is frankly weird, the way she's completely and merrily ignoring her girlfriend's and best friend's reactions and reservations. What if Robot has been doing something to her? What if she's already feeling some "coldness," in the emotionally numb sense?
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Post by maxptc on Feb 13, 2023 18:04:23 GMT
The part that bugs me is that Kat should be resting her face and neck against somthing for this, this postion isnt a good call for surgery. Seem you could decrease risk and increase comfort by either laying on a massage table, flat or on her side, or in a tattoo chair in a position similar to this. Heck, even just a normal chair backwards would be better then leaning forward on a stool. That's going to be a very awkward cut and sew, and when you're numb it's very easy to move without realizing. I know it's a comic but still this is just a needlessly risky way to do this procedure.
Oh also mecha Kat countdown continues.
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Post by rabbit on Feb 13, 2023 18:08:30 GMT
It's OK, everyone - If anything goes wrong, Paz just has to say "Kaatu barada nikto" and all will be fine.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Feb 13, 2023 19:24:26 GMT
On reflection, I think the most interesting thing about this page is Kat's word choice. She says "when it's installed" instead of "implanted" or something similar. It makes sense that when you successfully design an entirely new type of synthetic lifeform based on human biology it'd affect how you look at humans as well. I almost didn't post about it because we've had a number of instances where Kat displays a similar tendency... but the more I thought about it the more I wondered if there was more going on. Does this represent progression? I think probably yes though I'd have to reread the comic to confirm it. Come to think of it, why make the chip so that it would need a magnetic field to activate? If it was just an on switch I'd think she could use the soft connection to activate it, so I'll speculate that the chip needs a jumpstart from an external power source that it won't need when the hard link is complete. The part that bugs me is that Kat should be resting her face and neck against somthing for this, this postion isnt a good call for surgery. Seem you could decrease risk and increase comfort by either laying on a massage table, flat or on her side, or in a tattoo chair in a position similar to this. Heck, even just a normal chair backwards would be better then leaning forward on a stool. That's going to be a very awkward cut and sew, and when you're numb it's very easy to move without realizing. I know it's a comic but still this is just a needlessly risky way to do this procedure. I think even a random chair with a low back would help keep Kat from moving around without getting in the way. That they didn't bother with even that is, I think, is to emphasize how minimally invasive this procedure is. Or, maybe I should say, minimally invasive at this stage. Once the chip is in and active it will be maximally invasive. |
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Post by bedinsis on Feb 13, 2023 19:28:42 GMT
Funnily enough, this page reminded me of another page that made me less concerned for Kat's safety. Specifically, this page, where Kat's mother reveal that she had done bodily modifications in the past to increase her technological abilities. That worked out fine, so it makes sense that it would work out fine for Kat as well. |
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