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Post by philman on Sept 30, 2022 7:14:04 GMT
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Post by bicarbonat on Sept 30, 2022 7:19:34 GMT
Ah, yes: Who among us hasn't longed to exit the train of imminent death/sacrifice via unorthodox detours?
On an utterly unrelated note, anybody feel like re-watching "The Fountain"?
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Post by laaaa on Sept 30, 2022 9:12:01 GMT
Lana is a pleasant surprise in this page. No questions, no hesitation, no judgement, just empathy and action. She's my favorite character, now.
Also, is it just me, or do the doors closing in front of Annie seem pretty ominous?
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Post by blahzor on Sept 30, 2022 11:15:15 GMT
Lana knows, prove me wrong by giving me 3 billion dollars
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Post by blahzor on Sept 30, 2022 11:16:35 GMT
Lana is a pleasant surprise in this page. No questions, no hesitation, no judgement, just empathy and action. She's my favorite character, now. Also, is it just me, or do the doors closing in front of Annie seem pretty ominous? Final Destination 3 |
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Post by heranje on Sept 30, 2022 11:31:29 GMT
Once again wondering if Lana is a Goosewife Coyote situation or if she just noticed Jerrek's discomfort and understood he needed to get off the train without knowing why.
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Post by hannibalbarca on Sept 30, 2022 11:36:33 GMT
lana ex machina also works. i may have disregarded loup's concerns. you can send your little godling to his real and unimagined death at the hands of the star ocean - if robogirlfriend saves the day !
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Post by Corvo on Sept 30, 2022 11:40:03 GMT
"How dare you save my life!"
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Post by yellowb on Sept 30, 2022 12:21:35 GMT
I suspect what Lana is doing is simply ditching Annie to be alone with Jerrek.
OR she knows more than she lets on. Which would be more intriguing.
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Post by maxptc on Sept 30, 2022 13:30:31 GMT
Power of love solving problems.
In all seriousness, I really hope Loup doesn't kill Lana.
"I saw you were uncomfortable what's happening?"
"I'm actually Loup."
"I love you no matter what"
"Aww" Transforms and kills Lana.
No, I don't think Loups deal with Robot is all that important to Loup.
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 30, 2022 13:57:58 GMT
That Lana is a good egg.
She may show hidden depths. She already coaxed out a bit of Ysengrin with those elves. She may pull more out, yet.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 30, 2022 14:28:02 GMT
Huh indeed.
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Post by fia on Sept 30, 2022 15:45:29 GMT
Aw. If Lana doesn't know, then it must be that from the outside Jerrek looked like he was having a panic attack or dissociative episode or something like that.
I wonder what she thinks triggered it?
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Post by drmemory on Sept 30, 2022 17:17:21 GMT
Well, S13 figured out Jerrek was Loup. Maybe Lana did too? Or at least suspects it? I could believe she knows and doesn't care...
In any case, she saw he wasn't looking too hot, immediately figured out it had to have something to do with approaching the SO, and pulled him off the train. Lana wants to be a good girlfriend, and really does seem to care for the Jerk.
Next up - Benny Hill-like chase scene!
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Post by Gemini Jim on Sept 30, 2022 18:03:50 GMT
Lana definitely knows SOMETHING.
At the very least, she can see that Jerrek is visibly sweating. He's been internally monologuing this whole time, and she has to suspect that something's up.
So, it's a question of whether she thinks that the Star Ocean is affecting him as a New Person, or if she knows something more.... I like the Lana Coyote mojo theory, and there's still the possibility that she suspects that Jerrek is more than just Jerrek.
Interesting also that "a couple more stops away" could be quite a long distance, several city blocks at least. So the Star Ocean is messing with Loup's head even before they reach the seaside.
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Post by speedwell on Sept 30, 2022 18:38:19 GMT
"Eff's sake, Jerrek, all the stops have toilets, you know."
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Post by arkadi on Sept 30, 2022 21:19:06 GMT
All according to keikaku.
Lana's keikaku, that is.
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Post by blahzor on Sept 30, 2022 21:31:15 GMT
Aw. If Lana doesn't know, then it must be that from the outside Jerrek looked like he was having a panic attack or dissociative episode or something like that. I wonder what she thinks triggered it? a carnival and ferris wheel where they can go and kiss when it's at the highest point |
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Post by csj on Oct 1, 2022 2:52:39 GMT
Lana knows, prove me wrong by giving me 3 billion dollars bet, she'll almost get it i'll pay in jerma stream subs |
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Post by arf on Oct 1, 2022 7:10:06 GMT
Lana: C'mon Jerrek! Let's get you away from that scarlet woman!
Loup[considers hair choice]: but... you're a scarlet woman, too!
Lana[huffs]: I was referring to *that* scarlet woman.
(Lana may figured it out from all the sub-vocalising.)
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Post by davidm on Oct 1, 2022 18:20:17 GMT
Lana: You like Annie more than me because she is stronger?
Loup: Yes
Lana: I'm coyote.
(Lana *might* be coyote because she keeps doing things similar to how coyote would do them. Given we had 2+ Annies and coyote talking to Loup after Coyote "died" , lots of ways Coyote cou;d be Lana, including something like the old fairy "pass the test" to become Red and Blue)
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 1, 2022 18:35:02 GMT
Well, S13 figured out Jerrek was Loup. Maybe Lana did too? S13 knows because S13 knows all New People, and “Jerrek” is not one of them. Lana probably is not supposed to. Or at least suspects it? I could believe she knows and doesn't care... Maybe. But this returns us to the same question: how would she guess something so weird? What’s the big picture with her, again? Lana consistently functions under her own rules that don’t fit well in the Observable Universe around her, as such acts corny or reckless. So, what if “Secret Magical Boyfriend!” just happens to be the sort of a plot common in whatever she have read too much? Then it’s not too weird (nor quite unexpected) for her. |
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Oct 2, 2022 5:15:13 GMT
Makes sense to me. You see a friend showing signs of motion sickness, drag em to the nearest bin or alley to hurl so they don't do it on the train.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 2, 2022 7:45:58 GMT
Makes sense to me. You see a friend showing signs of motion sickness, drag em to the nearest bin or alley to hurl so they don't do it on the train. Which brings us to the next question: do the NP have motion sickness and nausea? |
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Post by drmemory on Oct 2, 2022 19:25:16 GMT
Well, S13 figured out Jerrek was Loup. Maybe Lana did too? S13 knows because S13 knows all New People, and “Jerrek” is not one of them. Lana probably is not supposed to. Or at least suspects it? I could believe she knows and doesn't care... Maybe. But this returns us to the same question: how would she guess something so weird? What’s the big picture with her, again? Lana consistently functions under her own rules that don’t fit well in the Observable Universe around her, as such acts corny or reckless. So, what if “Secret Magical Boyfriend!” just happens to be the sort of a plot common in whatever she have read too much? Then it’s not too weird (nor quite unexpected) for her. How could she guess something so weird? Oddly, I have an answer for that! It is possible that S13 told her! She approached him with her little jealousy issue and he told her it indeed meant something wrong with her, then we saw no more. We saw no more of the conversation, but I can't believe that was the end of it.
"I understand" and Lana walks away? Hahaha no. That seems highly unlikely.
That doesn't directly imply that S13 told her his suspicions about the origin of Jerrek but he could have. At the least, he had control of the conversation and told her whatever he wanted her to know, and could easily have told her something that influenced current events.
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Post by TBeholder on Oct 2, 2022 23:02:40 GMT
It is possible that S13 told her! Technically, before the agreement with Loup S13 could tell to anyone. And likely told at least someone, in case Loup turns out to be… unreasonable. We saw no more of the conversation, but I can't believe that was the end of it. It looked like the rest of their conversation could be either trivial, insightful or built upon some nearly incomprehensible point of robot theology. But yes. |
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Post by pyradonis on Oct 3, 2022 12:59:28 GMT
S13 knows because S13 knows all New People, and “Jerrek” is not one of them. Lana probably is not supposed to. Maybe. But this returns us to the same question: how would she guess something so weird? What’s the big picture with her, again? Lana consistently functions under her own rules that don’t fit well in the Observable Universe around her, as such acts corny or reckless. So, what if “Secret Magical Boyfriend!” just happens to be the sort of a plot common in whatever she have read too much? Then it’s not too weird (nor quite unexpected) for her. How could she guess something so weird? Oddly, I have an answer for that! It is possible that S13 told her! She approached him with her little jealousy issue and he told her it indeed meant something wrong with her, then we saw no more. We saw no more of the conversation, but I can't believe that was the end of it.
"I understand" and Lana walks away? Hahaha no. That seems highly unlikely.
That doesn't directly imply that S13 told her his suspicions about the origin of Jerrek but he could have. At the least, he had control of the conversation and told her whatever he wanted her to know, and could easily have told her something that influenced current events.
I agree the conversation most likely did not just end there. But given our current knowledge I can't think of a reason why S13 would have told Lana that Jerrek really is Loup. I find it more likely that he told her something along the lines of "tell him how you really feel". Possibly also explained why experiencing jealousy means there's something "wrong" with her. |
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Post by drmemory on Oct 3, 2022 20:38:48 GMT
How could she guess something so weird? Oddly, I have an answer for that! It is possible that S13 told her! She approached him with her little jealousy issue and he told her it indeed meant something wrong with her, then we saw no more. We saw no more of the conversation, but I can't believe that was the end of it.
"I understand" and Lana walks away? Hahaha no. That seems highly unlikely.
That doesn't directly imply that S13 told her his suspicions about the origin of Jerrek but he could have. At the least, he had control of the conversation and told her whatever he wanted her to know, and could easily have told her something that influenced current events.
I agree the conversation most likely did not just end there. But given our current knowledge I can't think of a reason why S13 would have told Lana that Jerrek really is Loup. I find it more likely that he told her something along the lines of "tell him how you really feel". Possibly also explains why experiencing jealousy means there's something "wrong" with her. That's closer to what I was thinking really. Maybe an explanation of how human emotions and relationships work, to the degree that S13 understands them? Or at least a warning that what she is feeling is an emotion and might cause problems. Maybe he gave her advice to tell him how she feels, who knows? He probably wouldn't tell her it was Loup unless it served his purposes, of course, but he still might have said stuff that inspired current events.
On the other hand, S13 is a schemer and perhaps hosting a cyberpunk robot designer, so who knows? Both parts - who knows how much he understands about human emotions and who knows what his scheme really is? It's even worse if Diego is in there...
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Post by blahzor on Oct 4, 2022 5:16:06 GMT
Lana: You like Annie more than me because she is stronger? Loup: Yes Lana: I'm coyote. (Lana *might* be coyote because she keeps doing things similar to how coyote would do them. Given we had 2+ Annies and coyote talking to Loup after Coyote "died" , lots of ways Coyote cou;d be Lana, including something like the old fairy "pass the test" to become Red and Blue) Lana is actually that steadman fellow |
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Post by blahzor on Oct 4, 2022 5:18:30 GMT
It is possible that S13 told her! Technically, before the agreement with Loup S13 could tell to anyone. And likely told at least someone, in case Loup turns out to be… unreasonable. We saw no more of the conversation, but I can't believe that was the end of it. It looked like the rest of their conversation could be either trivial, insightful or built upon some nearly incomprehensible point of robot theology. But yes. S13 probably told the other seraphs as they are his spy network |
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