[2633] The guy who's really into you?

[bedinsis]

Kat focuses on the important aspects.

[blackouthart]

As much as I love Kat, I feel like she’s being so obtuse right now. The Machiavellian supervillain vibe has been strong lately.

As for the rest of it: LAUGHING ON LINE

[davidm]

Kat: My best friend Annie can't get pregnant or she'll die like her mom. So lets get her a New Person boyfriend and then I'll make them some New Kids... Annie would you want your kids to stay young and cute or grow up? (Kat: I'm so smart and focusing on the really important things)

[basser]

Kat as far as you're aware you made that boy from goop in a pod in your robot dungeon.

[jda]

Annie and Jerrek
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[mochakimono]

Huh, well this seems to answer whether Annie was aware of it or not. Unless in the next page she goes, "And I knew about his crush all along."

[madjack]

Renard would rather see her with Loup-in-a-suit over Winsbury.

[stclair]

He has the seeming of one, yes.

[noone3]

What does he mean by "stand-up fellow"? My british vocabulary fails me there...

Is Loup now a comedian?

[Polyhymnia]

Jun 6, 2022 9:44:45 GMT noone3 said:

What does he mean by "stand-up fellow"? My british vocabulary fails me there...

Is Loup now a comedian?

Maybe it’s similar to an upstanding fellow? As in a good guy?

[Polyhymnia]

Also, everyone seeming to see romance in things I don’t is such a mood.

(Which isn’t to say I don’t see the crush angle of this recent arc , just that I’ve been in Annie’s shoes before and then people afterwards say stuff like “he was so into you! He was totally flirting!” And I’m like ??)

[imaginaryfriend]

Jun 6, 2022 9:44:45 GMT noone3 said:

What does he mean by "stand-up fellow"? My british vocabulary fails me there...

I think it just means a decent guy; probably Renard thinks that because of how Jerrek "stood up" for Lana.

[bicarbonat]

Jun 6, 2022 9:44:45 GMT noone3 said:

What does he mean by "stand-up fellow"? My british vocabulary fails me there...

Is Loup now a comedian?

"Stand-up [person/guy/fellow]" is about bravery, as in standing up to an adversary – it predates "stand-up [comedy/comedians]", which has separate origins based on a TV show.

[todd]

Let's hope that Annie hasn't inadvertently left Kat open to the Court's temptations by mentioning Jerek and giving Kat the opportunity to derail the conversation.

[pyradonis]

Jun 6, 2022 7:48:09 GMT mochakimono said:

Huh, well this seems to answer whether Annie was aware of it or not. Unless in the next page she goes, "And I knew about his crush all along."

I expect that now she ... understands.

[Gemminie]

After Annie's recap of Renard's point, Kat sheepishly says that she doesn't think that learning as much as possible is a bad thing.

But then Annie brings up what "Jerrek" said about how knowing everything would also be the end of free will, and Kat seizes upon any opportunity to change the subject. Kat immediately goes full anime and tells Annie about how Jerrek seems to be really interested in her, and Annie's responses seem to confirm the theory that she's completely oblivious. Renard also believes Jerrek's been showing interest in Annie, so perhaps Annie will be less oblivious now. Maybe she'll make the leap from oblivious to awkward.

And as they walk into the sunset, which might signal a change of scene coming up, Renard confirms the theory that he doesn't see through Loup's disguise. But it isn't the end of the chapter yet! So I think we'll be shifting to Loup and what he thinks of this attempt to catch him.

Could an actual relationship between Jerrek and Annie be in the offing? And a love triangle with Lana to boot? There's no question that it's going to go off the rails at some point, when Annie finds out Jerrek's true identity, but will it happen sooner or later? How far will this relationship develop before it explodes? How hurt and angry will Annie be? (Presumably hurt and angry enough to stab him with a dagger.)

[ctso74]

Not a total creep at all.

[guntherkrieg]

Ah, so Annie doesn't know it's Loup, and we enter another "guy who's bad for Annie" arc. Yawn yawn til the break of dawn.

[guntherkrieg]

Jun 6, 2022 7:34:53 GMT basser said:

Kat as far as you're aware you made that boy from goop in a pod in your robot dungeon.

Not his brain/soulotronics though, aye?

[flowsthead]

Annie's expression is hard to read on this page. It doesn't change at all in any of the panels, unlike Kat's. She has a nonreaction to other people's interpretation of Jerrek. This is where I'm not sure I'm into Tom's vagueness. Annie's categorization seems to be all over the place. She picks up on the fact that Parley is into Andrew without any help from outside sources. She's not socially inept any more than any other teenager. She did fine socializing with the Forest teens in the extra chapter. Then we have moments like this where supposedly Annie didn't pick up on anything from Jerrek which doesn't really make sense to me. The first time Jerrek did some blushing, that Annie can credibly not notice. But I feel like Jerrek reaching out and holding Annie's hand the way he did in the previous chapter should be obvious to anyone.

[Gemini Jim]

Jun 6, 2022 16:00:47 GMT guntherkrieg said:

Ah, so Annie doesn't know it's Loup, and we enter another "guy who's bad for Annie" arc. Yawn yawn til the break of dawn.

As convoluted as this webcomic is, it is entirely possible that Annie is suspicious. But for whatever reason, she's not ready to tell Kat yet.

(Because if she's trying to trick or trap Loup, the fewer people who know, the better?)


This page seems to be mostly about Kat throwing ships at Annie, and Annie being oblivious as usual.

[blahzor]

Jun 6, 2022 17:08:19 GMT flowsthead said:

Annie's expression is hard to read on this page. It doesn't change at all in any of the panels, unlike Kat's. She has a nonreaction to other people's interpretation of Jerrek. This is where I'm not sure I'm into Tom's vagueness. Annie's categorization seems to be all over the place. She picks up on the fact that Parley is into Andrew without any help from outside sources. She's not socially inept any more than any other teenager. She did fine socializing with the Forest teens in the extra chapter. Then we have moments like this where supposedly Annie didn't pick up on anything from Jerrek which doesn't really make sense to me. The first time Jerrek did some blushing, that Annie can credibly not notice. But I feel like Jerrek reaching out and holding Annie's hand the way he did in the previous chapter should be obvious to anyone.

Blushing is hard because it's not obvious if it's for the characters or visual the reader

[Corvo]

Knowing everything means God-Kat can finally create the perfect NP A.K.A. Jonesy and then retire.

[Polyhymnia]

Jun 6, 2022 17:08:19 GMT flowsthead said:

Annie's expression is hard to read on this page. It doesn't change at all in any of the panels, unlike Kat's. She has a nonreaction to other people's interpretation of Jerrek. This is where I'm not sure I'm into Tom's vagueness. Annie's categorization seems to be all over the place. She picks up on the fact that Parley is into Andrew without any help from outside sources. She's not socially inept any more than any other teenager. She did fine socializing with the Forest teens in the extra chapter. Then we have moments like this where supposedly Annie didn't pick up on anything from Jerrek which doesn't really make sense to me. The first time Jerrek did some blushing, that Annie can credibly not notice. But I feel like Jerrek reaching out and holding Annie's hand the way he did in the previous chapter should be obvious to anyone.

I dunno; in my experience, it’s kinda different when it’s you. It’s easier to see other people interested in each other, but for me any interest just reads as “normal socialization.”

I do kinda wonder, though, how “human” the new people read to Annie, because most students seem pretty used to brushing off robot romantic advances. Does Annie think of them the same way she thinks about forest creatures?

[flowsthead]

Jun 6, 2022 21:44:13 GMT Polyhymnia said:

Jun 6, 2022 17:08:19 GMT flowsthead said:

Annie's expression is hard to read on this page. It doesn't change at all in any of the panels, unlike Kat's. She has a nonreaction to other people's interpretation of Jerrek. This is where I'm not sure I'm into Tom's vagueness. Annie's categorization seems to be all over the place. She picks up on the fact that Parley is into Andrew without any help from outside sources. She's not socially inept any more than any other teenager. She did fine socializing with the Forest teens in the extra chapter. Then we have moments like this where supposedly Annie didn't pick up on anything from Jerrek which doesn't really make sense to me. The first time Jerrek did some blushing, that Annie can credibly not notice. But I feel like Jerrek reaching out and holding Annie's hand the way he did in the previous chapter should be obvious to anyone.

I dunno; in my experience, it’s kinda different when it’s you. It’s easier to see other people interested in each other, but for me any interest just reads as “normal socialization.”

I do kinda wonder, though, how “human” the new people read to Annie, because most students seem pretty used to brushing off robot romantic advances. Does Annie think of them the same way she thinks about forest creatures?

That's a good point about the robot thing. We have no idea how anyone is thinking of them, even Annie.


For the other point about it happening to you, I agree that it can be harder to pick up when it's directed at oneself, but even then, I think physical touch is usually more obvious, hence why I focused on Jerrek holding her hand. I don't know.

[saardvark]

Jun 6, 2022 19:23:44 GMT Corvo said:

Knowing everything means God-Kat can finally create the perfect NP A.K.A. Jonesy and then retire.

... after sending said NP-Jonesy wayyyyy back in time, of course!

[Runningflame]

Gotta say, I'm a bit disappointed that Annie was once again totally oblivious--unless she's hiding her true thoughts from Kat and Renard, but I'm not sure why she would be. I was expecting that she'd noticed how Jerrek has been acting towards her (especially since Renard already clued her in!), probably didn't reciprocate the feelings, but liked him and maybe liked the attention.

[basser]

Jun 6, 2022 16:02:22 GMT guntherkrieg said:

Jun 6, 2022 7:34:53 GMT basser said:

Kat as far as you're aware you made that boy from goop in a pod in your robot dungeon.

Not his brain/soulotronics though, aye?

I mean... no? If they got meat brains that's gotta get grown from the goop too. If they don't got meat brains then they've got their lil golem chips integrated into a goop-based nervous system which would now be part of their mind. Not sure if they had souls as robots but I think the whole implication of this arc is that Kat done did a godhood and gave em all souls somehow.

So, like, nah, feelin like if this boy weren't secretly a freaky hybrid canine god he'd be a being formed entirely of Kat's divine teenage provenance.

I'm honestly not sure why that makes her delightful shipping of him with her best friend feel super extra weird, but it is without a doubt super extra weird. Stop being weird, Kat.

[maxptc]

So the actual situation is a newborn/ancient God is pretending to a be a teenage android, which makes sense to me. Annie needs a really good motive for stabing Loup to death, can't see much less then this bringing that out. But the gang thinks it is a new android. They have to know Jerrek is a former robot of almost any age*.

If it was me, I'd be following up with Kat to see of she has records on Jerreks former body, not because I'd be thinking "maybe it's Loup" but because I'd want to know how to appropriately handle this social development. I'd be wondering if Jerrek was a toddler crush, a creepy 300 year old dude, or age appropriate. I dunno if that's what Annie would think, but I know it would bug me.


*Robot age already being a confusing concept.

[davidm]

Jun 7, 2022 4:24:19 GMT maxptc said:

...or age appropriate...

Castlevania anime apparently has a human lady fall in love with a much older count dracula and they were good for each other till others burned the lady as a witch which set dracula off, though they had happy ever after in end. You wouldn't approve because dracula was much older?

My opinion is if you aren't adult enough you shouldn't be getting a boyfriend or girlfriend including one your age, if you are adult enough then it is your problem to decide and you have to live with consequences, with important detail of honesty with each other of who you really are (Loup/Jerrek isn't being honest). I've seen 20+ year old man dating 40+ year old woman, their problem to sort it out. Celine Dion fell in love with her much older manager and married him, her choice and her problem when he is very old man and she is still middle aged, and sometimes when you fall in love you are stuck with it long after the other one is gone (so hopefully can make good use of the memory of that love rather than stop living).

There are people who are easily manipulated and people who are manipulators, that problem exists even if you go for similar age, some people wear a mask and play game of love as predators looking for prey. People need to become adult and not get scammed. (Predators may pretend to want lifetime relationship to get short term sex conquest, or gold diggers looking for easy life taking other people's money)