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Post by philman on Sept 1, 2021 7:02:47 GMT
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Post by cassini on Sept 1, 2021 7:09:59 GMT
Those poor robots! You can see their tiny little bodies falling in the last panel.
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Post by Igniz on Sept 1, 2021 7:10:09 GMT
If anyone from the party survived this, is all thanks to plot armor. Or by a yet unseen conveniently unrevealed special ability of someone among their ranks, of course. P.S. CRCKSH! CHKDSK!
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Post by madjack on Sept 1, 2021 7:11:29 GMT
This map suggests they probably are. If anyone from the party survived this, is all thanks to plot armor. Or by a yet unseen conveniently unrevealed special ability of someone among their ranks, of course. I feel like the Shadow Men running for their lives might be in more trouble than the ones inside the Forest, the forces were directed towards the Court. Wildspec time but I'm also wondering what it'll be like for the crew that survived(?) inside. If the escape from Gillitie is where the plot is going then there's no way they'll be able to get out normally, and teleporting might not work if Parley is incapacitated and/or Loup starts to regain his awareness. Which leaves the tunnels Idra and the monsters used to get in... Being trapped in the Forest with Aata means Annie might get some info out of him too.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Sept 1, 2021 7:26:20 GMT
The previous times we were treated to this onomatopoeia it only had two "o"s. Good way to end the chapter.
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Post by blahzor on Sept 1, 2021 7:28:24 GMT
lulz I forgot all of this was the same chapter
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Post by bicarbonat on Sept 1, 2021 7:30:57 GMT
Those poor robots! You can see their tiny little bodies falling in the last panel. Oh, you know our Resident Zealot is going to have a field day with the absolutely rancid optics of this "sacrifice." If the previous push (Kat's ability to interpret, make, and unmake Diego's will; evangelizing skewed gospels & miracles; the first wave of robots incarnating) was the 9 plagues of Exodus, what comes after this terra firma tidal wave is going to be the big one. Anybody (or any boty) who wants in is going to have to jump in fast - things are falling apart and virtually all of the Court humans have proved that they're only for themselves and would probably ride the robots like life rafts if they could.
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Post by jda on Sept 1, 2021 7:53:29 GMT
Annie booty? An I- bootie?
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Post by basser on Sept 1, 2021 8:12:40 GMT
Ok so Coyote presumably gets all up in Loup's ear like "ey buddy I set it up so our best gal pal over here gonna stab you in the vittles with yer own tooth isn't that hilarious", but Loup goes not find this hilarious, and tries to stab the holy heck out of everyone instead (though notably with pretty bad accuracy, and making the tactically unsound choice to use tree roots to attack a fire lady and a flower buddha). As soon as Annie reminds him that wood vs fire is a stupid matchup he switches right into doing a big ole mud vomit on the bubble.
Dude had like a zillion ways to prevent Annie from stabbing his vittles, so why go with this one?
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Post by aline on Sept 1, 2021 8:44:49 GMT
Dude had like a zillion ways to prevent Annie from stabbing his vittles, so why go with this one? Because he wasn't set up to prevent it but to cause it. Coyote already told Annie he would force her hand. I'm sure it was easy enough for him to railroad Loup into his own demise, that's pretty much what Ysengrin's character is all about after all: being conned by a smarter creature, over and over again. Well, here we are. Annie can either kill Loup or watch her own people be annihilated.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 1, 2021 11:05:03 GMT
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Post by saardvark on Sept 1, 2021 12:09:08 GMT
The previous times we were treated to this onomatopoeia it only had two "o"s. Good way to end the chapter. and the Blooom! is quite literally botanical in nature...
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Post by Gemminie on Sept 1, 2021 13:38:49 GMT
The wave of Forest crashes upon the shores of the Court and shatters the shield, going on to smash buildings. Coyote may have knocked one building over when he was displeased, but here Loup is destroying several of them. Fortunately, they're abandoned. Unfortunately, there were many robots atop the buildings, generating the shield, and they're falling. I wonder whether those robots that aren't destroyed will "wake up," now that the shield has been broken, or whether they'll attempt to continue shielding.
Other questions we don't know the answers to at this time: how far in will this wave go? Will Loup send more waves? How far will they go? How long will they continue? What happened to Cvet, Shell, and the other Shadow Men who made it out of the Forest proper just before this wave crashed over them? And where are Annie, James, and Parley in all this?
And the chapter is over with this dramatic image – "The Lake Water" ends with the crashing waves of an ocean of Forest. It seems as if Loup knows his days are numbered, and he's doing what many would do: ticking boxes on his bucket list. "Show humans how insignificant they are: check. Destroy as much of the Court as possible: in progress." What else has this chapter wrought? Annie now knows why Coyote gave him the dagger and what he expects her to do with it, and she knows that he's probably manipulated events so she'll have no choice but to do what he wants, which is kill Loup, and in doing so it seems that she'll send both Coyote and Ysengrin to their final death. Aata has revealed that he has an etheric ability, and either that fact or the fact that he's used it seem to spell disaster for his Court career, assuming he even survives this.
Now to read your impressions.
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Post by ctso74 on Sept 1, 2021 13:43:51 GMT
And the chapter ends with Loup waving hello, rather aggressively. Is this what Aata meant by "prove myself correct"?
If Loup is thinking tactically(that's a big if), he may be creating chaos to cover his entrance. He can't directly face Rey, because he could fall victim to the Possession power. In the chaos, that this is likely to cause, Rey may not notice a disguised Loup. I doubt Rey will just hand the Tooth over to anybody for no reason.
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Post by fia on Sept 1, 2021 13:50:09 GMT
Those poor robots! You can see their tiny little bodies falling in the last panel. Dōmo arigatō Mr. Roboto
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Post by aline on Sept 1, 2021 14:57:13 GMT
And the chapter ends with Loup waving hello, rather aggressively. Is this what Aata meant by "prove myself correct"? My theory on that is there are some rules on how shadow men are allowed to use those disgusting etheric powers, and Aata probably argued at some point that restricting magic like that wouldn't work because the temptation would be overpowering in a crisis. And now, in a crisis, he himself broke rules he probably helped to craft, thus proving he was right to have reservations. I guess we'll have to wait a while to find out for sure.
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Post by pyradonis on Sept 1, 2021 15:02:06 GMT
And the chapter ends with Loup waving hello, rather aggressively. Is this what Aata meant by "prove myself correct"? If Loup is thinking tactically(that's a big if), he may be creating chaos to cover his entrance. He can't directly face Rey, because he could fall victim to the Possession power. In the chaos, that this is likely to cause, Rey may not notice a disguised Loup. I doubt Rey will just hand the Tooth over to anybody for no reason. Does he even know Renard has the tooth, though?
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Post by mordekai on Sept 1, 2021 15:25:09 GMT
You know, I suspect the Court's leadership (if it survives in any form) is going to be more pissed for Aata's plan causing the Court's destruction than for his use of distasteful etheric powers...
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Post by Per on Sept 1, 2021 15:59:47 GMT
You know, I suspect the Court's leadership (if it survives in any form) is going to be more pissed for Aata's plan causing the Court's destruction than for his use of distasteful etheric powers... Only "Aata's plan" (such as we've seen) had nothing to do with it. That amounted only to a slight delay (at a point where Loup was openly attacking them anyway) in Coyote's message reaching Loup and triggering this.
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Post by bicarbonat on Sept 1, 2021 16:12:23 GMT
Annie booty? An I- bootie? [puts you in rice]
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Post by blazingstar on Sept 1, 2021 16:36:48 GMT
Is that... a forest tidal wave?
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Post by blazingstar on Sept 1, 2021 16:38:40 GMT
The previous times we were treated to this onomatopoeia it only had two "o"s. That's not even a Loup incident. How did you catch that?!
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Post by arreffgee on Sept 1, 2021 17:06:54 GMT
I, for one, prefer a bloomin' onion.
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Post by rylfrazier on Sept 1, 2021 17:32:28 GMT
Some nice writing and a really interesting mis-direct here. We had a ton of conversation about what Annie was going to do to Loup, Coyote's plan, etc., etc then a final couple of pages which went a very different way than I expected.
Now, I do think that Coyote's plan to have Annie kill Loup is still in play, but I think the story was set up to make us think that was going to happen right away, not after Loup attacked the court and (it appears) killed quite a few people and certainly destroyed quite a few robots.
We may find out that the area destoryed was all "red zone" and fully evacuated but if Loup didn't kill people it wasn't for lack of trying. It appears that what may "force annie's hand" in killing Loup may be simple pragmatism, that is she has to kill him to stop him from killing lots of other people including her friends.
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Post by mordekai on Sept 1, 2021 18:33:08 GMT
You know, I suspect the Court's leadership (if it survives in any form) is going to be more pissed for Aata's plan causing the Court's destruction than for his use of distasteful etheric powers... Only "Aata's plan" (such as we've seen) had nothing to do with it. That amounted only to a slight delay (at a point where Loup was openly attacking them anyway) in Coyote's message reaching Loup and triggering this. And who is going to tell the Court? I doubt Annie will be eager to tell them about the god-killing blade (they would take it from her and use it for their next plot) or about how Loup's attack was intended to force her hand (they will be quick to blame her for not killing him faster; everybody blames her for stuff not under her control...). From an outsider's point of view, Loup got pissed because of Aata's gambit...
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Post by saardvark on Sept 1, 2021 18:50:34 GMT
I, for one, prefer a bloomin' onion. welcome to the forum at this dramatic moment, arreffgee (RFG?)!
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Post by saardvark on Sept 1, 2021 18:56:13 GMT
aside from the robots, the shadow troop + Cvet would seem to be at most immediate risk here... www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2512Maybe Aata can make a floral shield to protect them all? Only Cvet could probably fly fast enough to avoid the Forest-tsunami, and she can probably only carry one person...
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Post by todd on Sept 1, 2021 23:49:44 GMT
You know, I suspect the Court's leadership (if it survives in any form) is going to be more pissed for Aata's plan causing the Court's destruction than for his use of distasteful etheric powers... If the Court finds out about Kat's robot project, they might try blaming her on the argument that it removed enough robots from the "force-field generating function" to weaken its defenses against Loup's attack. Of course, if they don't know about that, they could use Aata as the scapegoat. (In all likelihood, the rest of the Court leadership probably agreed with his plan, but in such a way so that if it went wrong, they'd pretend it was all his fault and escape the blame.)
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Post by Runningflame on Sept 2, 2021 0:10:04 GMT
Yep, those buildings have lots of free doors in them now.
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Post by lurkerbot on Sept 2, 2021 0:25:55 GMT
Does he [Loup] even know Renard has the tooth, though? That's an interesting question. When Coyote first questions Antimony about the Tooth's location, she tells him only that she left the Tooth in her room and Renard isn't mentioned. Later we do see Renard with it, but I don't think Coyote could have known or deduced that Antimony gave the Tooth to Renard for safekeeping. As best I can recall, the Tooth isn't mentioned again until after Loup comes into being, with the all-but-confirmed implication that Loup knows nothing about its existence. So for Loup to now know that Renard has the Tooth, I think Coyote would have had to somehow obtain this knowledge and then Coyote would have had to convey it to Loup, possibly in this last indistinct communication. (Note that when Coyote tells Antimony that Loup will shortly become aware of the Tooth, he gives no indication that he's aware that the Tooth is with Renard.) At this point, I rather doubt Loup is aware that Renard has his missing fang. And for all we know, Antimony might have it with her right now, but if so, it would be the first time we've seen her bring it back to the Forest since Coyote gave it to her so many pages ago, so I rather doubt that too.
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