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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 9, 2021 7:04:32 GMT
Curious that either Aata wasn't targeted or perhaps he was just too short. Shell on the other hand gets hit repeatedly. I'm a bit disappointed Aata didn't get to show off some sort of cool etheric power(s). Maybe next page. |
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Post by ghostiet on Aug 9, 2021 7:08:47 GMT
Yeah Atta fucked up pretty clearly with this entire plan.
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Post by maxptc on Aug 9, 2021 7:08:50 GMT
Shelly taking some to the belly.
Too soon...
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Post by bicarbonat on Aug 9, 2021 7:11:39 GMT
So, that's (at least) the second time he's indirectly gotten staff mortally injured*. That's gotta show up in his year-end review.
*Other time being Actual Innocent Angel Daniel Schiff, RIP
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Post by Fishy on Aug 9, 2021 7:12:27 GMT
Things are about to get either very interesting, or very sad.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Aug 9, 2021 7:16:04 GMT
"What's this feeling in my belly, are these stress-induced butterflies?? Nope, just normal roots, hmm, this is NOT pleasant!".
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Post by bicarbonat on Aug 9, 2021 7:18:42 GMT
Things are about to get either very interesting, or very sad. Coyote, shaking his own bones like maracas: ¿Por qué no los dos? |
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Post by jda on Aug 9, 2021 7:21:29 GMT
Things are about to get either very interesting, or very sad. Coyote, shaking his own bones like maracas: ¿Por qué no los dos?Thanks, it is pleasant to read a little bit of Spanish on this forum. Also: Hi Aata, nice to finally see that you have eyes |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Aug 9, 2021 7:21:54 GMT
On further reflection, maybe Aata wasn't targeted because "Loup" doesn't see him as human.
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Post by george on Aug 9, 2021 7:22:01 GMT
RIP shel
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Post by arf on Aug 9, 2021 7:25:08 GMT
Ah Shel, we hardly knew ye (beyond your defensive grumpiness, which we were willing to work on)
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Post by jda on Aug 9, 2021 7:26:41 GMT
I am more-than-half expecting this is a "bye Aata" moment. I feel this character has fulfilled its role, except to die as a reminder that the war is real. I suspect that if anyone from the court dies today, it will probably be Shell and possibly a couple other Shadow Men. First batch of murderous cookies are in order; it remains to be seen if the second part of the prediction would be true. |
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Post by flowsthead on Aug 9, 2021 7:38:30 GMT
Maybe Loup knows Aata has some defenses, so he targets those close to Aata as a way to hurt him. If Loup starts indiscriminately killing, that will also force Annie's hand.
It's kind of an interesting move on Coyote's part. I don't know if Coyote will die, but I think this will put some power in Annie's hands. If Annie kills Loup, then that makes her a god-killer, something the Court has not been able to accomplish. Not only that, she will have protected the people of the Court. Annie will have real power as the Forest Medium in a way they might be forced to acknowledge. My crazy out there theory is that eventually the Court might have to face the consequences of Robot's religious revolution and they will need the people of the Forest, led by Annie, as their allies to do so (or the robots will need the Forest as allies against the Court, either way).
What I'm most interested in is when Jones will move. She's been standing on her so called "neutrality" for a while now, but I don't really buy into it. She's made many moves over the course of the series that are not actually true neutral. It was weird seeing her with Aata last chapter, but for the most part, she has seemed to be Annie favored. Is her Annie favoritism a lie? Or is she playing Aata's shadow people in a bigger game? Jones is still the most interesting character for me as she is hard to place but has a pretty clear personality. How she fits into all of this is still the biggest question on my mind. If I wanted to be suspicious of her, I would say it's interesting that she has access to information from pretty much every source in the Court and many of those outside of it. People inherently trust her and being in that position is pretty powerful. I always took it as a positive for Jones that Surma didn't like her, but it would be an interested redeeming quality of Surma that she saw something in Jones others couldn't.
Anyway, that's enough theory crafting. I wonder if Aata's assistant will actually die or there will be some last minute shenanigans.
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Post by arf on Aug 9, 2021 7:56:22 GMT
All that can be said of Jones' motives is that she probably plays an even longer game than Coyote.
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Post by bedinsis on Aug 9, 2021 8:49:25 GMT
This page makes me wonder if Aata and Shell is/were an item. This further brings to mind that the Shadow Men Juliette and Arthur are an item.
This further reminds me of that Tony and Surma were an item... and that Surma tricked Renard into being trapped. Were she acting on behalf of the Shadow Men? Were she a part of the Shadow Men?
Far fetching speculation aside, I hope Shell survives this, even though I suspect she won't.
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Post by Tenjen on Aug 9, 2021 8:55:18 GMT
Aata looks like he was ready to die but definately not ready to lose his subordinates instead.
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Post by V on Aug 9, 2021 9:09:57 GMT
This puts the last page in an interesting light. I thought Loup's explosion just hit everyone in the radius indiscriminately. If his roots were targeted, does that mean he chose to attack Annie? Others have observed that she might have not been targeted exactly, but who then? Also, Aata's stance and expression in the last two pages looks to me like he's ready to take the hit, rather than ready with some defense (like Eglamore). Is that his way of taking responsibility for his actions? Or is his physical body expendable? (Edit: written before I saw Tenjen's post above mine saying something similar, I was distracted by work and took a long time sending this.)
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Post by autumnn on Aug 9, 2021 9:52:39 GMT
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Post by zbeeblebrox on Aug 9, 2021 10:12:07 GMT
Shel’s gonna need a LOT of pepto to deal with those stomach problems
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Post by speedwell on Aug 9, 2021 10:44:50 GMT
This puts the last page in an interesting light. I thought Loup's explosion just hit everyone in the radius indiscriminately. If his roots were targeted, does that mean he chose to attack Annie? Others have observed that she might have not been targeted exactly, but who then? Also, Aata's stance and expression in the last two pages looks to me like he's ready to take the hit, rather than ready with some defense (like Eglamore). Is that his way of taking responsibility for his actions? Or is his physical body expendable? (Edit: written before I saw Tenjen's post above mine saying something similar, I was distracted by work and took a long time sending this.)
Reminiscent of Jones standing in the path of the bombs, to me. |
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Post by ohthatone on Aug 9, 2021 11:34:50 GMT
I know those are some pretty fatal blows but I hope parley can teleport shel to a hospital on time. Will eglamore get fired for failure to protect the Court (even though he was busy protecting annie- who is the forest medium and therefore technically not part of the court)?
Aata must have been either very VERY confidant they had the ability to take coyotes power this time or severely underestimated loup's instability.
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Post by Per on Aug 9, 2021 11:42:33 GMT
When and why did Shell lose an L from her nickname? Not mad, just not keeping up apparently.
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Post by fia on Aug 9, 2021 11:43:34 GMT
I wonder if Annie has psychically told Renard what is happening yet. Because she's going to need some help. I don't know if her reflexes are quick enough to save Shel with her fire. Probably not  |
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Post by blahzor on Aug 9, 2021 12:00:14 GMT
Ah Shel, we hardly knew ye (beyond your defensive grumpiness, which we were willing to work on) she has to regret throwing the thing now |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 9, 2021 12:19:23 GMT
Curious that either Aata wasn't targeted or perhaps he was just too short. Or perhaps it's tactics. As in: Loup doesn't want, while locked in combat with a serious opponent, to get swarmed or distracted by lowly minions thereof. Thus, he quickly sweeps them first even if it costs him initiative. See also: Goblin Slayer. |
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Post by agasa on Aug 9, 2021 12:47:37 GMT
Curious that either Aata wasn't targeted or perhaps he was just too short. Or perhaps it's tactics. As in: Loup doesn't want, while locked in combat with a serious opponent, to get swarmed or distracted by lowly minions thereof. Thus, he quickly sweeps them first even if it costs him initiative. See also: Goblin Slayer. I see it as a brilliant tactic. He knows Aata would be able to shield himself, so he attacks his undefended minions instead, taking him by surprise and _massively_ hurting the troops morale, plus forcing some to retreat, to help the wounded. He may be childish and deranged, but he still has the General of Trees in him. Loup-Court 1-0. Rooting for Loup here; this is war and Aata needs to go down. He did enough damage; the Court as a whole did. "Experience death" my ass: this way, Coyote won't be accountable for the collateral carnage, as it technically wasn't him doing it, or ordering it even. Annie will take out the Loup amalgamation when the time is right (Coyote will ensure it, and Loup will expose a weak spot). Coyote may or may not return, but Aata/the Court will be toast at that point. Forest team wins. If they both sides find themselves headless, Aata (and the Shadow Men) taken out, and Coyote too, the Forest and Court _may_ decide to peacefully unite, with the aid of the Robot Religion, Shadow, and Kat, which represent a good way to mix Etheric and Technological meaningfully, to create, instead of leech and destroy. |
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Post by saardvark on Aug 9, 2021 13:22:09 GMT
This puts the last page in an interesting light. I thought Loup's explosion just hit everyone in the radius indiscriminately. If his roots were targeted, does that mean he chose to attack Annie? Others have observed that she might have not been targeted exactly, but who then? Also, Aata's stance and expression in the last two pages looks to me like he's ready to take the hit, rather than ready with some defense (like Eglamore). Is that his way of taking responsibility for his actions? Or is his physical body expendable? (Edit: written before I saw Tenjen's post above mine saying something similar, I was distracted by work and took a long time sending this.)
Reminiscent of Jones standing in the path of the bombs, to me. ..is Aata another being with similarities to Jones, maybe not semi-immortal, but impervious to physical attack? Or perhaps he made himself like that, in a failed attempt to become god-like? Not sure I believe this, but.... |
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Post by Gemminie on Aug 9, 2021 13:44:27 GMT
I think I tend to make these things too long. It appears that Aata didn't have a Plan B, as it seems that he fully expects to bear the brunt of Loup's attack. He then seems surprised that the attack goes past him and is focused on Shell, standing behind him. At least three of Loup's root-like tendrils stab Shell in the abdomen; oddly, Shell doesn't appear to be bleeding or screaming in pain, just looking afraid. There are three other tendrils/roots shown that are either going behind Shell or haven't reached her yet. Then Aata, looking back at her, gets a wide-eyed expression of surprise and fear, one that he didn't have when first looking back to see that Loup was attacking Shell. This gives the impression that something more is going on with Shell, or perhaps behind her, than what we see on this page, or perhaps that one of the roots/tendrils has in fact stabbed Aata after all.
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Post by ctso74 on Aug 9, 2021 15:05:10 GMT
There's hope. Someone might say "Loup, your roots are showing", and they will righteously change course to kill the "dad" joker. Poor Shel.
If this is Shel's curtain call, I wonder if Tom will show the act. The next page may simply be everyone's reaction closeups, leaving the gruesome details to our own imagination. The imagination can be a dreadful thing.
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Post by saardvark on Aug 9, 2021 15:33:12 GMT
wild spec x 2:
hmmm, it would be wild if the Loup roots are the conduit to transfer Coyote essence into a new "Shel"... and Coyote is reborn as a shadow person! Loup collapses in a torn-asunder heap, and begs Annie to put him out of his misery, which she does with the Coyote-giggle-tooth. Thus Annie's killing of Loup is actually an act of mercy, and Coyote gets to die and be reborn as a hum-ant. Double surprise!
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