|
|
Post by madjack on Jun 21, 2021 7:01:21 GMT
|
|
V
Full Member
I just think it's a pity that she never wore these again.
Posts: 168
|
Post by V on Jun 21, 2021 7:03:04 GMT
Oh my. By the way, what do you guys think will be Loup's reaction to finding his "trick" undone? I sincerely hope he's just going to laugh it off, as the last time he got "bitter" it was not nice at all. This is the worse variant. |
|
|
|
Post by philman on Jun 21, 2021 7:05:03 GMT
How dare you show that I am not infallible!
|
|
|
|
Post by Fishy on Jun 21, 2021 7:12:09 GMT
Ah, there we are. I was worried that Loup had matured and gone all wise on us.
It’s odd. I find it so difficult to be intimidated by Loup. Coyote and Ys managed to seem dangerous even when they had the best of intentions in mind, but Loup? He angers and threatens so easily, yet... I’m just not scared of him. Maybe it’s because Coyote was ambiguous and Ys was losing his mind, so there was always the possibility. But Loup? I could envision Annie saying something to the effect of “Yes, and we both know you’re not gonna do anything about it.”
Coyote felt mystical. Ys felt powerful. When Loup shows off his abilities, it feels like tantrums. And I’m not scared of tantrums.
|
|
|
|
Post by arf on Jun 21, 2021 7:14:05 GMT
Hmm. Is this where Loup finds out about the Great Grim Zim?
|
|
|
|
Post by migrantworker on Jun 21, 2021 8:02:48 GMT
This black background they are standing against. An artistic choice, or a depiction of how far Loup is able to see?
|
|
|
|
Post by bicarbonat on Jun 21, 2021 8:09:08 GMT
It’s odd. I find it so difficult to be intimidated by Loup. Coyote and Ys managed to seem dangerous even when they had the best of intentions in mind, but Loup? He angers and threatens so easily, yet... I’m just not scared of him. Coyote felt mystical. Ys felt powerful. When Loup shows off his abilities, it feels like tantrums. And I’m not scared of tantrums. I think it's because he comes off like the crappiest part of the Punnet square. He has Coyote's capricious, inconsistent urges and childish & brutal pettiness + Ysengrin's insecurity, instability (c/o age and mind-wipes), & absurd stubbornness. Ya boy is Built Bad™. I also don't think Tom's going to have Loup go nuclear - but I see his potential. Tantrums + Opportunity + Power have killed before and still do. I mean, look at Henry VIII. In that respect, I lay my lack of vicarious fear at the feet of the plot and its needs, not Loup. |
|
|
|
Post by stclair on Jun 21, 2021 8:42:43 GMT
"I didn't do it. Zimmy did. Do you want to talk to her? As the Medium, I'd be glad to introduce you."
(and then stand wayyyyyyy back)
("Oh wonderful. We have to get these two together."
"I think that would be extraordinarily dangerous."
-- Drs. Peter Venkman and Egon Spengler)
|
|
|
|
Post by merry76 on Jun 21, 2021 9:21:07 GMT
I dont think that flipping out like that helps his concentration much...
|
|
|
|
Post by saardvark on Jun 21, 2021 11:29:44 GMT
I dont think that flipping out like that helps his concentration much... yeah, all those perfect Platonic solids go all warpy when he realizes Annie is reunited (panel 4)... |
|
|
|
Post by hnau on Jun 21, 2021 12:50:20 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by Gemminie on Jun 21, 2021 13:09:53 GMT
Didn't get a chance to do my impressions of the previous page due to a busy weekend, but let's look at today's page.
Annie has just approached Loup and said his name, so he finally responds. This first frame seems to be under some extreme or exaggerated perspective, seen from above with Loup's head and the top of a nearby cylinder drawn quite a bit larger than his feet and the bottom of the same cylinder. And the ground seems curved as if they're standing within a cup or on the inside of a sphere, which is consistent with the view of the horizon that we saw when we first glimpsed Loup.
Annie diplomatically tells Loup that it seems he's getting things under control again. It looks like he's trying to do that, but is it working? The background behind Annie is black sky with a few small or distant (it's hard to tell) geometric shapes floating in it.
Opening one eye, Loup says that it takes a lot of concentration. "Forgive me if –" he begins, but then cuts himself off. What was he going to say? "Forgive me if I can't give you my full attention," perhaps.
He then does a bit of a double take, as Annie stands there with arms crossed. The background is distorted – is this an artistic effect, or is Loup's surprise actually affecting the environment? Either could be true. What happens if Loup is distracted from his concentration? Are we about to find that out?
And then, with very detailed bared teeth and bloodshot eyes, Loup expresses his displeasure that the two Annies have combined into one. Looks like cookies go to anyone who was speculating that he wouldn't be happy about that. I claim no cookies because I predicted several possibilities, and that was only one of them. Coyote would have been pleased with Annie's recombination, as he always was whenever anything surprised him, as it meant new games he could play. But Ysengrin didn't like surprises, and this is the part of Loup we see here – the part that's trying to impose order upon the Forest rather than channeling its chaos to his advantage. What will Loup do? We'll find out in a couple of days.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bandolute on Jun 21, 2021 16:01:25 GMT
How funny would it be if Annie instantly went splitsies again
|
|
V
Full Member
I just think it's a pity that she never wore these again.
Posts: 168
|
Post by V on Jun 21, 2021 16:26:54 GMT
I'm feeling kind of sorry for the character. He was thrown into this world with expectations on godhood, but given neither omniscience, nor omnipotence, nor immortality, basically what does he have apart from some not-well understood "power"? Coyote was better off and Ysengrin seems to have had none of this, but also no associated responsibilities. Loup got the worse of the deal on both sides. Edited: he has the strength he fought for, but was it really worth it? |
|
|
|
Post by ohthatone on Jun 21, 2021 16:37:49 GMT
How dare you show that I am not infallible! I'm actually not sure why he's angry here. It could be as simple as this, but I think he knows full well he's not as powerful as he wants. The whole reason he split annie was to keep the court off his back while he talked to annie for a few months. Control then? He cant hold the possibility of recombining over annie to keep her doing what he wants? He didn't have much hold over her to begin with and if the choice was staying 2 Annies or be loups gofer I think she would be fine staying as 2. Besides she only agreed to anything to keep him from attacking the court. Did he view his trick as a gift? Eh, I think this outburst will be short lived in any case. |
|
|
|
Post by pyradonis on Jun 21, 2021 16:48:56 GMT
Oh, good. Perhaps now we can get some information on this Steadman person how the frag Zimmy just recombined them.
|
|
Jota
Junior Member
Posts: 51
|
Post by Jota on Jun 21, 2021 17:06:03 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 21, 2021 19:17:53 GMT
Control then? He cant hold the possibility of recombining over annie to keep her doing what he wants? He didn't have much hold over her to begin with and if the choice was staying 2 Annies or be loups gofer I think she would be fine staying as 2. Besides she only agreed to anything to keep him from attacking the court. Did he view his trick as a gift? Yeah I think it's about control. It's both about someone undoing something he did in general when he's having issues controlling stuff and also about control over Antimony in particular. I agree that Antimonies wouldn't have become gofers for "Loup" in return for reunification but I doubt he would have asked for that much, and might not have asked for anything at all. He probably would have unshifted them if Antimonies just asked nicely. What that would have done is establish the precedent that 1) "Loup" causes problem 2) Antimony asks "Loup" to solve problem and is otherwise nice to "Loup" 3) "Loup" solves problem he created and 4) Antimony is grateful to "Loup." Repeat that a few times to ram home how powerful he is and maybe she'll be grateful when he isn't causing a problem. Shifting Antimony was a good move from his perspective because it weakened the hold the Court had on her (as he would see it). It put strain on her relationships with people and Antimonys found themselves fighting over their own stuff. I think that aspect was a happy accident, though, because I don't think he's sharp enough to think that far ahead so I don't think he'd be mad about that aspect of it. Additionally: If he finds out someone other than Antimonies unshifted the Antimonies he'll probably be irked about that as well. |
|
|
|
Post by bedinsis on Jun 21, 2021 19:47:23 GMT
It would be funny if this precise scene had played out with the Annies not recombined, and the other Annie would walk in from off screen in the next page being all like "No, we have not become one."
|
|
|
|
Post by ctso74 on Jun 21, 2021 21:29:51 GMT
Do they make Etheric Visine?
|
|
|
|
Post by rafk on Jun 22, 2021 0:37:21 GMT
Ah, there we are. I was worried that Loup had matured and gone all wise on us. It’s odd. I find it so difficult to be intimidated by Loup. Coyote and Ys managed to seem dangerous even when they had the best of intentions in mind, but Loup? He angers and threatens so easily, yet... I’m just not scared of him. Maybe it’s because Coyote was ambiguous and Ys was losing his mind, so there was always the possibility. But Loup? I could envision Annie saying something to the effect of “Yes, and we both know you’re not gonna do anything about it.” Coyote felt mystical. Ys felt powerful. When Loup shows off his abilities, it feels like tantrums. And I’m not scared of tantrums. A combination of it feeling like toddler tantrums, and the overwhelming aura that everything going on with Loup was planned and foreseen by Coyote and ultimately Loup won't be able to do anything Coyote wouldn't have wanted. And Coyote's plans for fire-haired girl do not yet appear complete. |
|
|
|
Post by rylfrazier on Jun 22, 2021 0:46:02 GMT
Loup is such an unpredictable character. It would be a weird twist if he killed some people in the next few pages, but not outside of what I can imagine happening.
|
|
|
|
Post by todd on Jun 22, 2021 1:27:57 GMT
It recently occurred to me that if they did an animated adaptation of "Gunnerkrigg Court" and it got to Loup, that Loup should be voiced by Coyote and Ysengrin's voice actors speaking in almost-unison. (By "almost-unison", I mean, speaking close enough together that the audience can tell what he's saying, but slightly apart, to give the impression of an imperfect and flawed fusion of the two.)
|
|
|
|
Post by imaginaryfriend on Jun 22, 2021 4:08:18 GMT
Loup is such an unpredictable character. It would be a weird twist if he killed some people in the next few pages, but not outside of what I can imagine happening. Backstories excepted I would be shocked if anyone was violently killed in this comic. Permanently turned into an unintelligent animal and cast out into the wild, sure. Stranded on some isolated terrain to never see another human being again and die alone? That'd be surprising but not impossible. Cast into the ether or a void outside reality to never return? Maybe. Directly stripped of their sanity forever, perhaps. But violently killed? Nah. |
|
|
|
Post by warrl on Jun 22, 2021 6:09:06 GMT
Sudden thought: What if Annie drinks the lake water?
|
|
|
|
Post by madjack on Jun 22, 2021 6:21:31 GMT
Sudden thought: What if Annie drinks the lake water? She remembers that she was Coyote, too. |
|
|
|
Post by philman on Jun 22, 2021 6:51:26 GMT
Ah, there we are. I was worried that Loup had matured and gone all wise on us. It’s odd. I find it so difficult to be intimidated by Loup. Coyote and Ys managed to seem dangerous even when they had the best of intentions in mind, but Loup? He angers and threatens so easily, yet... I’m just not scared of him. Maybe it’s because Coyote was ambiguous and Ys was losing his mind, so there was always the possibility. But Loup? I could envision Annie saying something to the effect of “Yes, and we both know you’re not gonna do anything about it.” Coyote felt mystical. Ys felt powerful. When Loup shows off his abilities, it feels like tantrums. And I’m not scared of tantrums. I don't know, his tantrums have already resulted in the destruction of part of the Court and the exile of an entire race of people, it's not a big leap to doing much worse. Coyote and Ysengrin's danger was always there, on show but not always used. Loup's danger lies entirely in his lack of control, both over the forest and over his own emotions. |
|
|
|
Post by Igniz on Jun 22, 2021 11:14:24 GMT
Next page he coyotizes and dimisses this with a laugh.
|
|
|
|
Post by ohthatone on Jun 22, 2021 12:05:40 GMT
Loup is such an unpredictable character. It would be a weird twist if he killed some people in the next few pages, but not outside of what I can imagine happening. Backstories excepted I would be shocked if anyone was violently killed in this comic. Permanently turned into an unintelligent animal and cast out into the wild, sure. Stranded on some isolated terrain to never see another human being again and die alone? That'd be surprising but not impossible. Cast into the ether or a void outside reality to never return? Maybe. Directly stripped of their sanity forever, perhaps. But violently killed? Nah. Given how coyote "died" I'd say this comic has the potential for violent deaths. Maybe not violent human deaths, though. |
|
|
|
Post by todd on Jun 22, 2021 12:43:35 GMT
Permanently turned into an unintelligent animal and cast out into the wild, sure. It'd be tempting to imagine such a fate for the Court leadership at the end - designed as a punishment for intellectual arrogance. |
|
