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Post by foxurus on May 6, 2021 1:48:38 GMT
Which is fair, he needs it and should be seeking it out, and the Court should do better at giving people the option or making the option known. But I'm not convinced a lack of the facilities existing is an answer. Tony just not seeking it out despite needing and wanting seems more likely. The Court not making it easy and or not encouraging it makes sense and is very plausible to me, but honestly the answer that makes sense to me is that therapy sessions are tough to write/pace in an authentic way and aren't very dynamic within this type of story. Also this world has strong supporting characters(Jones being a great example) that can serve the same story function as therapists, without having to write therapy scenes and simultaneously give said characters more screen time. Tony without therapy would be a disaster in the real world and I'd be super worried about the situation, but I have confidence something equivalent is happening right now or in the near future. I don't really understand why you think it's so implausible that there are no therapists in the Court. If the Court doesn't think individual therapy is useful (and we have no reason to think they do), then why would they employ people to do it? "Tony wants to but he just doesn't" is such a weird explanation. If not having therapists makes for a better story, the Court not having any is a pretty good justification. The Court exists to serve the story. Why would Tom put therapists in the Court when that just forces him to justify not using them? (Personally, I think it'd be fine if we saw Annie in therapy or if someone else mentioned they were going, but that's neither here nor there.) |
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Post by maxptc on May 6, 2021 2:38:22 GMT
Which is fair, he needs it and should be seeking it out, and the Court should do better at giving people the option or making the option known. But I'm not convinced a lack of the facilities existing is an answer. Tony just not seeking it out despite needing and wanting seems more likely. The Court not making it easy and or not encouraging it makes sense and is very plausible to me, but honestly the answer that makes sense to me is that therapy sessions are tough to write/pace in an authentic way and aren't very dynamic within this type of story. Also this world has strong supporting characters(Jones being a great example) that can serve the same story function as therapists, without having to write therapy scenes and simultaneously give said characters more screen time. Tony without therapy would be a disaster in the real world and I'd be super worried about the situation, but I have confidence something equivalent is happening right now or in the near future. I don't really understand why you think it's so implausible that there are no therapists in the Court. If the Court doesn't think individual therapy is useful (and we have no reason to think they do), then why would they employ people to do it? "Tony wants to but he just doesn't" is such a weird explanation. If not having therapists makes for a better story, the Court not having any is a pretty good justification. The Court exists to serve the story. Why would Tom put therapists in the Court when that just forces him to justify not using them? (Personally, I think it'd be fine if we saw Annie in therapy or if someone else mentioned they were going, but that's neither here nor there.) Just what Lindsey's inclusion makes me think. Might be a weird explanation, but people just not going works for me because it's true in the real world for a lot of people. *shrug* |
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Post by imaginaryfriend on May 6, 2021 4:48:07 GMT
In addition to all the other reasons people don't see therapists, it occurs to me that Anthony deals with Omega-level Court secret stuff. Seeing a therapist may impact his security clearance and by extension his agreement with the Court regarding Antimony, even if all the written policies and contracts specifically say otherwise.
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Post by Elysium on May 6, 2021 8:01:34 GMT
Something that is neither stated or implied by the story didn't happen. And where it is implied that Tony never go to see a therapist? Something happening and something not happening are not equivalent, something not happening is the default state, it's always true until there is solid evidence to say otherwise. You don't need to prove that something didn't happen but you need to prove that something happened. |
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Post by pyradonis on May 6, 2021 15:05:41 GMT
Mental health is inherently difficult to work on, which is why people in US colleges who are struggling are referred to campus counselors instead of just left to figure it out on their own, and why my doctor sat with me, called a therapist, and scheduled an appointment for me after I filled out their mandatory how-are-you-these-past-two-weeks sheet, because I wouldn't have done it by myself. The Court, as a entity which has its own culture, seemingly exists in a mostly-economyless bubble of socialism, and has a huge amount of information on and power over everyone in it, should have an obligation to connect people with the support they need. There is a certain point where the barriers to entry are high enough that it is equivalent to not having the resource at all. Tony actively wants to work on his mental health; he doesn't have any logistical setbacks like lack of money, transportation, or time; and he's able and eager to talk about his problems in one-on-one settings. Maybe most people don't want therapy, but it sure seems like Tony would appreciate it, so I'm searching for an explanation for why he's not getting it. Which is fair, he needs it and should be seeking it out, and the Court should do better at giving people the option or making the option known. But I'm not convinced a lack of the facilities existing is an answer. Tony just not seeking it out despite needing and wanting seems more likely. The Court not making it easy and or not encouraging it makes sense and is very plausible to me, but honestly the answer that makes sense to me is that therapy sessions are tough to write/pace in an authentic way and aren't very dynamic within this type of story. Also this world has strong supporting characters(Jones being a great example) that can serve the same story function as therapists, without having to write therapy scenes and simultaneously give said characters more screen time. Tony without therapy would be a disaster in the real world and I'd be super worried about the situation, but I have confidence something equivalent is happening right now or in the near future. Tom does not need to write therapy sessions to make it clear someone is attending them. It's not as if he made more than a handful of panels depicting ordinary boring school lessons, yet we know most characters of the appropriate age regularly attend those. |
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Post by maxptc on May 6, 2021 16:50:41 GMT
Which is fair, he needs it and should be seeking it out, and the Court should do better at giving people the option or making the option known. But I'm not convinced a lack of the facilities existing is an answer. Tony just not seeking it out despite needing and wanting seems more likely. The Court not making it easy and or not encouraging it makes sense and is very plausible to me, but honestly the answer that makes sense to me is that therapy sessions are tough to write/pace in an authentic way and aren't very dynamic within this type of story. Also this world has strong supporting characters(Jones being a great example) that can serve the same story function as therapists, without having to write therapy scenes and simultaneously give said characters more screen time. Tony without therapy would be a disaster in the real world and I'd be super worried about the situation, but I have confidence something equivalent is happening right now or in the near future. Tom does not need to write therapy sessions to make it clear someone is attending them. It's not as if he made more than a handful of panels depicting ordinary boring school lessons, yet we know most characters of the appropriate age regularly attend those. Very true, and if any of them were in therapy I hope it would be mentioned/shown in comic. I just think therapy not being a part of the story doesn't mean therapists don't exist in the Court, or that the court is keeping people from therapy or that they anyone is acting strange by not seeking it out. It not being mentioned makes sense to me in a world with mental health services that are known, as well as a world that doesn't have them. I just think, based on the limited amount of information we have, that they exist. It also makes sense from a story telling perspective to not use them. |
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Post by todd on May 16, 2021 1:09:00 GMT
On a sillier note: if the Court did have therapists, we could have seen Paz consulting one after the events of "Not Very Scary", who tells her, "Now, Miss Cadena-Blanco, repeat after me. A clown is my friend. A clown will not tie me up and lock me in the basement. A clown is not a big hairy spider"
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Post by silicondream on May 16, 2021 2:21:58 GMT
On a sillier note: if the Court did have therapists, we could have seen Paz consulting one after the events of "Not Very Scary", who tells her, "Now, Miss Cadena-Blanco, repeat after me. A clown is my friend. A clown will not tie me up and lock me in the basement. A clown is not a big hairy spider" Therapist: Mice aren't sentient, you can't hurt them. Mouse: |
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