[2461] Unable to show her how much I love her

[warrl]

May 2, 2021 23:53:13 GMT lurkerbot said:

May 2, 2021 21:51:49 GMT Per said:

Yes, the question is whether he tried it again and the same thing happened, or he didn't try it again and never really knew for sure until The Incident, or he went to Coyote and said "hey dude the power killed a hare" and Coyote was like "HAHAHAHA yeah that's how that works now also did you eat it because if not"

Renard's statement "But if I take his body... he could die!" (is this The Incident referenced above?) strongly suggests that Renard still didn't know for sure what would happen. Coyote, being Coyote, didn't give Renard a straight answer. Instead, he basically goaded him into possessing Daniel. But in the page linked above, Coyote's statement "any body he took that was not his own would die when it was used up" implies that he knew Renard's use of the body-snatching power would always kill the possessed.

I suspect that Coyote was well aware of the limitations of Renard's power and Renard was not, and he didn't take the time to experiment extensively to find out. Per Coyote, Renard took over Daniel's body "soon" after he was given the power. 

I'd also consider that Renard took Daniel's body in order to court Surma; and if he had been successful in that courtship, might have remained in Daniel's body for the remainder of what would have been Daniel's natural lifespan. And in that case you could get into an interesting philosophical debate over whether or not the act of taking Daniel's body killed Daniel. (But please, let's not.)

Daniel's body died when it did because the Court chose to attack Renard in some fashion that Renard believed would be harmful to him, forcing him to leave that body in self-defense. Whether the attackers intended to kill that body or not, is unknown.

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I also wish to object to making assumptions regarding what an author is saying about a group of people with some specific characteristic, based on sample size: one.

Tom is presenting only one character with Tony's particular kind and level of mental issues. He has not said anything at all about any other such characters, fictional or real. To assume that Tom thinks everyone with that mental issue manifests it in the same way Tony does, is denying Tom's individuality - the same error that the assumption accuses Tom of.