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Post by TBeholder on Apr 8, 2021 20:00:46 GMT
Big oof! The biggest oof! but I always wondered whether she actually sits on the coffee table, or just squats such that she doesn't put her full weight on it. That would be a silly explanation of course and I should just take it as given, but it would be hilarious. I always wondered whether Jones "actually moves" parts of her body (that is via deformation, like everything else) at all, or she just very accurately shifts her external shape into a new pose and remains generally amorphous beyond the first micron or so. |
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Post by warrl on Apr 8, 2021 21:18:23 GMT
I mean Annie and Surma are just different vessels for the same endlessly reincarnated soul y'all I dunno why it would be weird for both of them to think Jimmy's hot. I think this is not completely correct (but also not completely incorrect). Sure, the psychopomps believed - and perhaps they had good reason - that when Surma died there would be nothing for them to take to the aether. But, because of that belief, they didn't bother to show up. Annie was there, and she thinks she took her mother's soul to the aether. Of course, she's young and inexperienced - even more so then than now - so she might not be completely correct. Annie has some unknown number of generations of human ancestry. Quite plausibly by now (and some probably-smaller number of generations back) there's a duality - she has the soul of the fire elemental, passed down through the generations, but also has a human soul which is different from her mother's. |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 9, 2021 0:03:35 GMT
Annie is at most 50% Surma reincarnated, because her other half is (a very stoic) human. The comic has shown her to have a very different personality, and even if she were 100% Surma... Well, 5-year-old me and current (32-year-old) me are also the same person and yet very, very different. So I doubt she is bound to like the same guys her mother did. Of course many people fall for the same kind of person their mother or father did, I'm not denying this! But remember also that Surma fell for two guys who are basically polar opposites. So, if you keep it with "Annie will like the same kind of guys her mom liked" then she could just as well fall for a very stoic person, like Jones. Although the only boy we know for sure she did have romantic feelings for (Kamlen) was again totally different from both.
I think we're all agreed that she had a thing for Kamlen, but it's also the case that he was really the first boy to show any interest in her. She didn't crush on him the way Kat crushed on Eglamore over many years. He was nice to her, she thought he was (at least physically) attractive, and her crush seems to have stemmed from there. I don't know that Kamlen can be used for anything except establishing that Annie is not asexual, which was a running idea in the forum before Annie in the Forest came out. Welll, actually she could still be asexual, just aromantic has been ruled out.  |
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Post by flowsthead on Apr 9, 2021 0:10:41 GMT
I think we're all agreed that she had a thing for Kamlen, but it's also the case that he was really the first boy to show any interest in her. She didn't crush on him the way Kat crushed on Eglamore over many years. He was nice to her, she thought he was (at least physically) attractive, and her crush seems to have stemmed from there. I don't know that Kamlen can be used for anything except establishing that Annie is not asexual, which was a running idea in the forum before Annie in the Forest came out. Welll, actually she could still be asexual, just aromantic has been ruled out. Fair dues, although her image of Kamlen was pretty sexy I thought. |
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Post by pyradonis on Apr 9, 2021 1:17:29 GMT
Welll, actually she could still be asexual, just aromantic has been ruled out. Fair dues, although her image of Kamlen was pretty sexy I thought. With him running around bare chested like that, was there any way it could have been not sexy?  |
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Post by Gemminie on Apr 9, 2021 17:36:01 GMT
Sure, the psychopomps believed - and perhaps they had good reason - that when Surma died there would be nothing for them to take to the aether. But, because of that belief, they didn't bother to show up. So you're saying that they didn't expect there to be anything for them to take when Surma died, perhaps because of past experience with Annie and Surma's ancestors, but just this one time they were wrong? But if that's the case, then by now they know they were wrong, because in this conversation between Annie and Muut, it's made pretty clear that Annie and Muut have had this conversation before, but Muut doesn't admit that the psychopomps were wrong. (They just might not like admitting that.) This would also mean that Renard was wrong here, when he said there was nothing to take, but there's no reason Renard can't be wrong. (He was speaking in anger, too, and he was wrong about something else on that same page – that Annie took her mother's spirit when in fact Surma gave it to her.) Also, Renard says "We all knew it would happen!" but it appears he's speaking of Surma's eventual death, rather than of there being nothing to take. The theory's been going around the forums that she took her mother's spirit into herself, rather than the Ether, but nobody still knows whether that's the case. I have a wildspec theory that the fire spirit consumes the human spirit, beginning when the mother's spirit is consumed and the mother dies, but I don't know. I also have another wildspec theory that Annie is the first of her line to actually be a psychopomp and take anyone into the Ether, and that Surma and her ancestors may have assisted the psychopomps but didn't actually act as one (we have no proof that Surma actually took any spirits into the Ether). It might also be that if Surma was the first of her line to have anything left to take into the Ether, that's the reason why Annie was the first to take it. Tony tried so hard to help Surma avoid her ancestors' fate; perhaps in this sense he succeeded? |
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but I always wondered whether she actually sits on the coffee table, or just squats such that she doesn't put her full weight on it. That would be a silly explanation of course and I should just take it as given, but it would be hilarious.
