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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 22, 2021 7:07:21 GMT
So I'm guessing that some time passed between the reunification and this earlier conversation. [edit] Also guessing that Cvet's armor's magicked; if it was normal-heavy it would make flying tough, and if it were just for ground combat the shins would be protected. [/edit]
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Post by blazingstar on Mar 22, 2021 7:09:13 GMT
Looks like we're getting another "The Stone" montage, with Jones flashbacks spaced out increasingly further into the past. At least, I hope so.
Also, Annie with 2x the firepower confirmed. Cookies to everyone who hoped for this result.
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Post by madjack on Mar 22, 2021 7:15:23 GMT
Really hope we loop back around to Jones/Tony conversation. Twice the fire, however, may mean twice the anger. Hope she's not bottling something up again.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 22, 2021 7:18:21 GMT
(shrug) Could just be more confident, understanding herself better. Could be her emotions being less under control, too. Remains to be seen, I guess.
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Post by arf on Mar 22, 2021 7:29:41 GMT
Cvet's English seems to have improved. Of course, she does a *lot* of talking.
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Post by merry76 on Mar 22, 2021 7:34:32 GMT
So I'm guessing that some time passed between the reunification and this earlier conversation. [edit] Also guessing that Cvet's armor's magicked; if it was normal-heavy it would make flying tough, and if it were just for ground combat the shins would be protected. [/edit] It has to be. Parley has grown HUGE, she is towering over Jones now, even though she stands behind her in the third frame. And Jones is normal sized for something human shaped.
Maybe its foam armour like football gear? It looks metallic, but if it is full steel, it must weight about 200 kilos. But then again, its a fantasy setting. Most of the swords used by the Parley and Eggers are too wide/broad to be realistic, and suffer from "Skyrim Paddle Sword Syndrome"TM. Maybe its training armour so Parley doesnt have to hold back so much if they are practicing. On the other hand, she can jump a hundred meters (or more). That kind of force renders armour useless, because the force would break up your joints. Definitely because its a fantasy setting.
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Post by imaginaryfriend on Mar 22, 2021 7:43:46 GMT
Cvet's armor shines a bit and looks like it has rivets, though I suppose if it was like football pads or martial arts sparring foam it might have rivet attachments and a shiny surface... but if foam, that helmet would need a chin strap to stay put and it looks like there's a lot more material worn under the armor to protect the skin than foam would require... so I'm thinking it's metal.
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Post by philman on Mar 22, 2021 7:57:52 GMT
Cvet is a mythical creature with unknown immense strength, I am sure there are etherical abilities in place that allow the lifting of heavy armour.
And yes, this looks like a series of flashbacks in which Jones asks Annie's friends and colleagues about her, getting increasingly worried about her mental state. Jones may not have the capability of emotion herself, but she has the experience of the entirety of human history to know when someone's mind is having troubles.
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Post by arf on Mar 22, 2021 7:58:38 GMT
So I'm guessing that some time passed between the reunification and this earlier conversation. [edit] Also guessing that Cvet's armor's magicked; if it was normal-heavy it would make flying tough, and if it were just for ground combat the shins would be protected. [/edit] It has to be. Parley has grown HUGE, she is towering over Jones now, even though she stands behind her in the third frame. And Jones is normal sized for something human shaped. Maybe its foam armour like football gear? It looks metallic, but if it is full steel, it must weight about 200 kilos. But then again, its a fantasy setting. Most of the swords used by the Parley and Eggers are too wide/broad to be realistic, and suffer from "Skyrim Paddle Sword Syndrome"TM. Maybe its training armour so Parley doesnt have to hold back so much if they are practicing. On the other hand, she can jump a hundred meters (or more). That kind of force renders armour useless, because the force would break up your joints. Definitely because its a fantasy setting.
The heaviness pf armour reminds me of the third Hobbit movie. To help fight off the orc legions of Azog, the dwarves of Thorin's company were supposed to burst out of the gates of Erebor in full plate armour. However, it turned out it was all the actors could do to stand up in costume...
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Post by gpvos on Mar 22, 2021 8:23:15 GMT
Also guessing that Cvet's armor's magicked; if it was normal-heavy it would make flying tough, and if it were just for ground combat the shins would be protected. TBH, her flying by herself is magic as well, as is her entire existence.
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Post by mzpx on Mar 22, 2021 9:13:30 GMT
Cvet is a mythical creature with unknown immense strength, I am sure there are etherical abilities in place that allow the lifting of heavy armour. And yes, this looks like a series of flashbacks in which Jones asks Annie's friends and colleagues about her, getting increasingly worried about her mental state. Jones may not have the capability of emotion herself, but she has the experience of the entirety of human history to know when someone's mind is having troubles. She certainly does.. www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1106
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Post by shadow3 on Mar 22, 2021 11:01:31 GMT
If the Annies fused, maybe she now has twice the firepower. This could be a game changer should she be needed to help fight Loup in the final battle where Renard might become an ether mega-zord after drinking Coyote's essence. Next step: Foreshadowing glimpse of Renard's real body in the forest.
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Post by blahzor on Mar 22, 2021 11:01:42 GMT
SSJ2 UncAnnie or SSJ3 in power level?
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Post by ohthatone on Mar 22, 2021 12:16:53 GMT
Really hope we loop back around to Jones/Tony conversation. Twice the fire, however, may mean twice the anger. Hope she's not bottling something up again. Good point, I hadn't thought of that being the specific reason people are worried and maybe that's why jones is looking into it. I also hope we come back to jones talking to tony, possibly asking his opinion on the matter.
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 22, 2021 12:33:45 GMT
Nice armor.
Also: Still cannot not see Cvet's not existing moustache in panels 3 and 4.
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 22, 2021 13:07:33 GMT
Just my thoughts about this page ... "Earlier" ... So some time has passed, as imaginaryfriend states, but how much time isn't stated. "Oh, yeah, it's crazy." Is this "evidence" that "people" are questioning Annie's mental state? And that word "crazy." This really points out the all-too-frequent misuse of words related to mental illness. What Parley certainly means is, "The situation is illogical/unexpected," not "Annie is crazy." We pull out to see that Parley is speaking to Jones, and that she and Cvet are dressed in battle gear; the setting is apparently some sort of training arena. So Parley and Cvet have been continuing their training and getting better and stronger. Both of them seem larger, especially as we know Jones hasn't changed in size. Jones has evidently come to ask them about Annie – why? What started Jones' investigation? Just her own desire to know, some sort of conversation among a few others such as perhaps Tony, James, the Donlans, etc., or is it a mandate from the Court? And what precisely was the question she asked? Cvet states that Annie is more sure of her powers now – and Cvet's English seems to have improved. Finally, Parley confirms that Annie's fire power is far stronger than it was. So time has obviously passed, and Parley and Cvet, who have both grown and changed, are telling Jones (and us) that Annie has grown and changed, yet there's a tone that this is going to be taken out of context and amplified.
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Post by ctso74 on Mar 22, 2021 14:20:05 GMT
Water cooler talk, with an armored winged coworker, must be the norm for Parley. I wonder, who we'll see Jones talking with next?
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Post by fia on Mar 22, 2021 14:46:03 GMT
Looks like we're getting another "The Stone" montage, with Jones flashbacks spaced out increasingly further into the past. At least, I hope so. Also, Annie with 2x the firepower confirmed. Cookies to everyone who hoped for this result. Do you think Annie has twice the fire-power now? *does the tiniest victory lap with the tiniest flag* still though, badddd-aaassss
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Post by pyradonis on Mar 22, 2021 16:07:36 GMT
"Oh, yeah, it's crazy." Is this "evidence" that "people" are questioning Annie's mental state? And that word "crazy." This really points out the all-too-frequent misuse of words related to mental illness. What Parley certainly means is, "The situation is illogical/unexpected," not "Annie is crazy." Isn't that obvious? Parley doesn't call Annie "it", so of course she means that this whole story is crazy, which is a perfectly normal reaction. It feels like you are reading a misinterpretation no reader actually had into this panel.
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Post by drmemory on Mar 22, 2021 16:26:51 GMT
It kind of looks like they are both in there. The Annies. I've really been trying to figure out what Zimmy could possibly have done, given what we know of her and what she said, and I could see her sticking both of their minds in one body for a while so they can really understand each other. Also, it would explain panel 2 here: www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=2442. Annie doesn't say "Yes, I'm one person again", she says "It seems that way, yes!". Two Annie minds in one body is consistent with all we've seen to date, including the extra flame strength. As for anger... well it's hard to be angry with someone when you fully understand their point of view, so this should actually help a lot with the whole quibbling thing. But, I wouldn't want to be the first one to piss off Double Annie! Perhaps poking her with a stick isn't such a good idea. Oh well, at least Jones can't be burned...
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Post by Corvo on Mar 22, 2021 16:29:25 GMT
Jonesy is the resident flashbacks expert.
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Post by Gemminie on Mar 22, 2021 16:41:14 GMT
"Oh, yeah, it's crazy." Is this "evidence" that "people" are questioning Annie's mental state? And that word "crazy." This really points out the all-too-frequent misuse of words related to mental illness. What Parley certainly means is, "The situation is illogical/unexpected," not "Annie is crazy." Isn't that obvious? Parley doesn't call Annie "it", so of course she means that this whole story is crazy, which is a perfectly normal reaction. It feels like you are reading a misinterpretation no reader actually had into this panel. I doubt any reader misinterpreted it this way, but suppose the Court is covertly recording this conversation via surveillance devices and puts out a report on Annie's sanity with an edited version of the conversation. "Annie? Oh yeah ... crazy ... definitely." I can't help feeling Tom quite deliberately had Parley use the word "crazy." We'll see, of course, but it's possible that the Court is trying to start a propaganda campaign against Annie, and little sound bites like that, stated innocently but quoted out of context, could serve such a plan well. Actually a lot of what Parley and Cvet say here could be quoted out of context and used to discredit Annie. I doubt Jones would willingly go along with such a plan, but she may have no choice, or no knowledge (though it's probably quite difficult to fool Jones); the Court may be recording these interviews without her knowledge (or with her knowledge, but without her awareness of what the recordings will be used for). Or she may suspect, having perhaps seen such tactics used before, and she's got her own plan for how to counter it (perhaps with Tony as an accomplice). That would be quite satisfying to see. And on top of that something may really be other-than-normal about Annie's mental, or perhaps ethereal, state. She was quite evasive, as if she actually did have something to hide. Still guessing that Zimmy just moved the duality from external to internal, or ethereal.
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Post by bedinsis on Mar 22, 2021 17:26:34 GMT
Looks like we're getting another "The Stone" montage, with Jones flashbacks spaced out increasingly further into the past. At least, I hope so. I find it more likely that we do get a montage, but only of a few people that Jones talked to in the very recent past, before getting back to Tony in the present. Four pages, top.
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Post by Sky Schemer on Mar 22, 2021 19:03:21 GMT
Looks like we're getting another "The Stone" montage, with Jones flashbacks spaced out increasingly further into the past. At least, I hope so. Hopefully not too far into the past. antimony.png (217.99 KB)
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Post by maxptc on Mar 22, 2021 23:23:30 GMT
So is this a full time training yard? Why the stands, does/did the Court do competitions here, or does/did the court have an entire sporting league we just dont get to see or what? For a school story, we havent had much in the way of school sports, not that I'm complaining. Just an observation.
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Post by dramastix on Mar 23, 2021 1:06:43 GMT
Forgive me if someone has mentioned this already, but I'm amused that the in-story reaction to Annie's merger is similar to the forum reaction. Namely, the what-the-actual-heck and that-came-out-of-nowhere reactions. I live in hope that we're going to get a more complete explanation, sometime before the end of the comic.
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Post by blazingstar on Mar 23, 2021 4:09:01 GMT
So is this a full time training yard? Why the stands, does/did the Court do competitions here, or does/did the court have an entire sporting league we just dont get to see or what? For a school story, we havent had much in the way of school sports, not that I'm complaining. Just an observation. I, too, am fascinated to see a new part of the Court. (Perhaps the exterior of this training facility?)
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Post by TBeholder on Mar 23, 2021 5:47:44 GMT
Also, Annie with 2x the firepower confirmed. Cookies to everyone who hoped for this result. Not necessarily. Maybe it's just confidence. That is, even if her maximum capabilities didn't change, she can do more while calm and collected. Previously the most impressive of Annie's special effects was that wall of fire across the bridge, done when she flipped out.
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Post by theonethatgotaway on Mar 23, 2021 8:29:18 GMT
So is this a full time training yard? Why the stands, does/did the Court do competitions here, or does/did the court have an entire sporting league we just dont get to see or what? For a school story, we havent had much in the way of school sports, not that I'm complaining. Just an observation. It's for SPORTSball, the super fun sports that mysteriously our MC is amazing at!
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Post by Corvo on Mar 23, 2021 16:14:00 GMT
... I live in hope that we're going to get a more complete explanation, sometime before the end of the comic. Living in hope is what we do. Getting explanations, not so much. I actually prefer it this way.
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