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Post by madjack on Jul 29, 2020 7:15:48 GMT
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Post by blackmantha on Jul 29, 2020 7:19:10 GMT
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Post by madjack on Jul 29, 2020 7:29:40 GMT
I was thinking earlier about the Checkov guns that are still lying around, such as a certain tooth. But... *Brinnie*?? ... and what does a valkyrie know about time travel other than the suspended in a wall of flame thing? Assuming she will know other Norse beings due to her valkerie-ness, there are beings in Norse mythology called the Norns, who spin fate and are connected to the past, present and future of all things. No direct god of time though. Interestingly, a lot of the artwork depicting the Norns spinning the threads of fate reminds me heavily of what Jeanne saw surrounding Smitty all those chapters ago.    Cookies to philman for calling the Norns would be involved. Also: Kat status: Recovered. |
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Post by arf on Jul 29, 2020 7:42:15 GMT
... Note the Borromean Triangle motif, and Sun and Moon. Familiar, much?
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Post by wies on Jul 29, 2020 7:49:56 GMT
Cookies to philman indeed! But yeah! Looking forward to how Tom will depict the Norns. |
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Post by arf on Jul 29, 2020 8:32:26 GMT
Cookies to philman indeed! But yeah! Looking forward to how Tom will depict the Norns. *Three* Annies???* Oh, we are now halfway through this chapter, which looks to be the final one**. Looks like we'll be left with a cliffhanger. * Traditionally called Urd, Verdandi, and Skald. They may or may not be fire head girls. ** of this volume. |
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Post by bicarbonat on Jul 29, 2020 8:42:21 GMT
Very good pull, madjack. Smitty at least semi-consciously wove or drew threads like a Norn to influence the outcome in favor of his highest priority. But now, about this "mistake" that Anja mentioned... Who caused it? Why was it made? And why was it really made? |
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Post by madjack on Jul 29, 2020 9:19:30 GMT
The title of Ch 45 (Thread) is rattling around in the 'possibly connected to this' bin inside my brain for some reason, especially how Andrew is described as lucky while Paz is explicitly not. |
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Post by merry76 on Jul 29, 2020 9:28:30 GMT
There is a very big chance that Gunnerkrigg catches the norse mythology WAY better than marvel does.
Anyone wanna bet?
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Post by gpvos on Jul 29, 2020 9:30:49 GMT
Maybe Smitty *is* a Norn?
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Post by philman on Jul 29, 2020 10:21:41 GMT
Assuming she will know other Norse beings due to her valkerie-ness, there are beings in Norse mythology called the Norns, who spin fate and are connected to the past, present and future of all things. No direct god of time though. Interestingly, a lot of the artwork depicting the Norns spinning the threads of fate reminds me heavily of what Jeanne saw surrounding Smitty all those chapters ago. Cookies to philman for calling the Norns would be involved. Also: Kat status: Recovered. Yay! One of my prediction darts had to strike the dartboard sometime! Super interested to see whether the connection to Smitty also plays out. Do we know anything about his family? Is he of nordic heritage as well?
(I am just imagining us meeting the Norns now to find that they all just look like Smitty with long hair)
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Post by Igniz on Jul 29, 2020 11:02:37 GMT
... Note the Borromean Triangle motif, and Sun and Moon. Familiar, much? Named, more precisely, the Valknut.  |
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Post by migrantworker on Jul 29, 2020 11:30:04 GMT
I have a feeling that Norns charge per visit.
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Post by blackmantha on Jul 29, 2020 11:40:21 GMT
I have a feeling that Norns charge per visit. "Let's get all of the payments out of the way. It's one silver coin for this visit, one for the one next year, one and a half for the visit you will have last year (plus late fees), and twelve copper for the visit you will be going to have had June to March 2036." |
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Post by madjack on Jul 29, 2020 11:56:33 GMT
I have a feeling that Norns charge per visit. Perhaps they're missing? Maybe Smitty *is* a Norn? Zimmy, too. Edit: Actually, scratch that idea, it might have merit but it feels a little too close to American Gods. |
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Post by silicondream on Jul 29, 2020 12:16:18 GMT
So at this point, I'm just massively suspicious of Brinnie, and very glad that the Annies are wary of her. Let me count the ways:
1. If Brinnie's the traditional sort of Valkyrie, she's a psychopomp by definition. We know that Annie and both of her parents are Persons Of Interest to the psychopomp community, which has engaged in elaborate schemes to retain their services.
2. Brinnie's "old man" is presumably Odin, who's pretty much the multiversal champion of elaborate schemes. In mythology his life's purpose is to learn everything he can about the past, present and future of the nine realms, so that he can manipulate destiny and ensure the optimal outcome for Ragnarok.
3. Odin sent Brinnie to the Court, where she just happened to befriend Surma thanks to a twist of fate. Then she just happened to start pursuing Anthony Carver romantically. Had she succeeded, Surma would probably not have had a child so young, if ever, and her life and career as a medium would have lasted much longer. Tony, meanwhile, would have become involved with the psychopomps at a much younger age--and given his tendency toward obsessive devotion, he would probably have worked on any project Brinnie suggested.
And now Brinnie shows up and claims to be ignorant of Surma's death, her relationship with Tony, and Annie's existence? To quote Kat, I don't buy it. And I suspect that Kat wouldn't be buying it either, if Brinnie hadn't cleverly distracted her with that opening glomp.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 29, 2020 12:27:10 GMT
So at this point, I'm just massively suspicious of Brinnie, and very glad that the Annies are wary of her. Let me count the ways: 1. If Brinnie's the traditional sort of Valkyrie, she's a psychopomp by definition. We know that Annie and both of her parents are Persons Of Interest to the psychopomp community, which has engaged in elaborate schemes to retain their services. 2. Brinnie's "old man" is presumably Odin, who's pretty much the multiversal champion of elaborate schemes. In mythology his life's purpose is to learn everything he can about the past, present and future of the nine realms, so that he can manipulate destiny and ensure the optimal outcome for Ragnarok. 3. Odin sent Brinnie to the Court, where she just happened to befriend Surma thanks to a twist of fate. Then she just happened to start pursuing Anthony Carver romantically. Had she succeeded, Surma would probably not have had a child so young, if ever, and her life and career as a medium would have lasted much longer. Tony, meanwhile, would have become involved with the psychopomps at a much younger age--and given his tendency toward obsessive devotion, he would probably have worked on any project Brinnie suggested. And now Brinnie shows up and claims to be ignorant of Surma's death, her relationship with Tony, and Annie's existence? To quote Kat, I don't buy it. And I suspect that Kat wouldn't be buying it either, if Brinnie hadn't cleverly distracted her with that opening glomp. That's a... really interesting twist on things. I think it's smart to keep one eye on Odin. Pun sooooooo intended. |
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 29, 2020 12:31:25 GMT
Wow, yes, cookie to philman for calling that the Norns would be involved! They'd surely know more about time, or what we consider to be time anyway, than anyone else in Brinnie's homeland. I have to wonder whether they're related to Temporal Affairs at all. Chester House must be interesting ... we haven't met anyone currently in it besides Zimmy and Gamma, but if no Forest creatures will go near them, they must be quite a bunch. I guess if even Renard wants nothing to do with Zimmy or anything she's created, the average Forest creature is going to stay far away from the entire house. |
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Post by madjack on Jul 29, 2020 12:43:13 GMT
That's a... really interesting twist on things. I think it's smart to keep one eye on Odin. Pun sooooooo intended. You know... The Court symbol (Bismuth) Looks awfully like an eye.. And how the Court is represented in the first panel here... Hmm |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 29, 2020 13:42:54 GMT
the Annies seem surprised in an "of course!" sort of way.... they both know what Norns are and perhaps can perceive the outline of Anji's plan....
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Post by saardvark on Jul 29, 2020 13:50:56 GMT
I think Anji's twist of a smile in panel 5 may be revealing as well. Her request is an unusual one, a big one, and one fraught with some uncertainty/damger perhaps. One does not interrogate the ladies of time, or make request of them, without due caution...
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Post by blahzor on Jul 29, 2020 13:57:12 GMT
what house is the former forest people are in anyway?
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Post by autumnrook on Jul 29, 2020 14:42:16 GMT
what house is the former forest people are in anyway? The forest people go to Foley house. |
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Post by bicarbonat on Jul 29, 2020 15:19:41 GMT
Maybe Smitty *is* a Norn? If any of the Norn show up on the page with thick eyebrows, it's over. |
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Post by wies on Jul 29, 2020 18:12:00 GMT
I agree that the "mistake", to quote Annie, seems... highly coincidental. Also wondering why both Anja and Brinnie, like everyone else talking about House Chester, seems uncomfortable about it. Anja I can get, since she was already shown to be uncomfortable with her own magic and wary of the Court's distrust of that, so she might still want to put distance between her and the ...extremely special students who are so disliked. But Brinnie? Actual Valkyrie Brinnie? What could be going on with House Chester that such a person thinks of them as strange. |
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Post by mturtle7 on Jul 29, 2020 18:20:56 GMT
I think Anji's twist of a smile in panel 5 may be revealing as well. Her request is an unusual one, a big one, and one fraught with some uncertainty/danger perhaps. One does not interrogate the ladies of time, or make request of them, without due caution... It's definitely a mischievous, kinda rougish smile she's got there, too. "Come on, Brinnie. Let's go on a reckless and stupid adventure, ONE last time, for old time's sake." |
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 29, 2020 20:07:00 GMT
Well this is a comment that I hope will not reflect poorly on me, but:
[EDIT: As several posters has pointed out: it did. Having listened to the argumentation and given it some thought I agree. Even though my intention was innocent in nature that did not come across in the post and was thus a failure in communication on my part, for which I apologize. More to the point, I agree with the argument that no matter the intention the subject I brought up is inappropriate to this board, and think that it derails the discussion of the more interesting matter of the Norns. Therefore the original post has been censored. Highlight for readability, although I assure you nothing of value would be lost if you just scroll past this post.]
Is Brinnie the largest breasted character in the comic?
I mean, so far the breast sizes have been of the "yep, there is enough of a bump here to show that it is a biological female body"-variety. I.e. they have been small enough not to call attention to themselves. Brinnie is the only one I think so far whose breast size goes beyond that.
It could only be the armor though. And of course: the fact that the majority of the human cast are school children only makes it reasonable to draw their bosoms at less developed sizes.
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Post by speedwell on Jul 29, 2020 21:04:37 GMT
Well this is a comment that I hope will not reflect poorly on me, but: Is Brinnie the largest breasted character in the comic? I mean, so far the breast sizes have been of the "yep, there is enough of a bump here to show that it is a biological female body"-variety. I.e. they have been small enough not to call attention to themselves. Brinnie is the only one I think so far whose breast size goes beyond that. It could only be the armor though. And of course: the fact that the majority of the human cast are school children only makes it reasonable to draw their bosoms at less developed sizes. I feel sure the answer to your question is probably "Khepi". City Face also looks like he might make a good suprême de pigeonneau dish. And then there's the ancient goddess statuette at the bottom of this Treatise. But seriously, wtf, dude.  |
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Post by novia on Jul 29, 2020 21:23:14 GMT
But now, about this "mistake" that Anja mentioned... Who caused it? Why was it made? And why was it really made? It's not the first time this mistake has been mentioned. |
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Post by blazingstar on Jul 29, 2020 21:45:26 GMT
Well this is a comment that I hope will not reflect poorly on me, but: Is Brinnie the largest breasted character in the comic? Too late. It already reflects very, very poorly on you. |
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