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Post by wies on Jul 29, 2020 22:18:31 GMT
Well this is a comment that I hope will not reflect poorly on me, but: Is Brinnie the largest breasted character in the comic? I mean, so far the breast sizes have been of the "yep, there is enough of a bump here to show that it is a biological female body"-variety. I.e. they have been small enough not to call attention to themselves. Brinnie is the only one I think so far whose breast size goes beyond that. It could only be the armor though. And of course: the fact that the majority of the human cast are school children only makes it reasonable to draw their bosoms at less developed sizes. Hello, bedinsis, I don't know you, so I am gonna assume you mean this question in all innocent sincerity and might be confused to why other posters indeed seem to think this reflects poorly on you. Now, I have a few times brought myself brought in social trouble because I failed to read the context and athmosphere of the situation, and I wished someone had explained then why the thing I just said or did was considered a faux pas, so here I am. To answer this question inevitably causes one to think and compare breasts of the characters in this comic and set them off to each other qua size. It would lead people to hunt down panels and apply imaginary tape-measure lints to them. Suddenly, a comic primarily concerned with mythology and mystery has anatomical discourse that has no apparent benefit of gaining a deeper understanding of the artwork whatsoever. A comic that once literally prefered to have anatomical discourse behind closed doors. It does't really fit the tone at all. It also carries hopefully unintentional undertones of reducing female characters to their breasts. If you meant it in a innocous way, and like not sexist, I'd say the tone of this public forum with also people who likely don't know you and also don't know in which way you mean that question doesn't really fit for that. |
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Post by bedinsis on Jul 30, 2020 5:14:22 GMT
Well this is a comment that I hope will not reflect poorly on me, but: Is Brinnie the largest breasted character in the comic? I mean, so far the breast sizes have been of the "yep, there is enough of a bump here to show that it is a biological female body"-variety. I.e. they have been small enough not to call attention to themselves. Brinnie is the only one I think so far whose breast size goes beyond that. It could only be the armor though. And of course: the fact that the majority of the human cast are school children only makes it reasonable to draw their bosoms at less developed sizes. Hello, bedinsis, I don't know you, so I am gonna assume you mean this question in all innocent sincerity and might be confused to why other posters indeed seem to think this reflects poorly on you. Now, I have a few times brought myself brought in social trouble because I failed to read the context and athmosphere of the situation, and I wished someone had explained then why the thing I just said or did was considered a faux pas, so here I am. To answer this question inevitably causes one to think and compare breasts of the characters in this comic and set them off to each other qua size. It would lead people to hunt down panels and apply imaginary tape-measure lints to them. Suddenly, a comic primarily concerned with mythology and mystery has anatomical discourse that has no apparent benefit of gaining a deeper understanding of the artwork whatsoever. A comic that once literally prefered to have anatomical discourse behind closed doors. It does't really fit the tone at all. It also carries hopefully unintentional undertones of reducing female characters to their breasts. If you meant it in a innocous way, and like not sexist, I'd say the tone of this public forum with also people who likely don't know you and also don't know in which way you mean that question doesn't really fit for that. Thanks for answering. I withdraw the previous question as a subject for discussion. |
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Post by speedwell on Jul 30, 2020 5:41:28 GMT
Hello, bedinsis, I don't know you, so I am gonna assume you mean this question in all innocent sincerity and might be confused to why other posters indeed seem to think this reflects poorly on you. Now, I have a few times brought myself brought in social trouble because I failed to read the context and athmosphere of the situation, and I wished someone had explained then why the thing I just said or did was considered a faux pas, so here I am. To answer this question inevitably causes one to think and compare breasts of the characters in this comic and set them off to each other qua size. It would lead people to hunt down panels and apply imaginary tape-measure lints to them. Suddenly, a comic primarily concerned with mythology and mystery has anatomical discourse that has no apparent benefit of gaining a deeper understanding of the artwork whatsoever. A comic that once literally prefered to have anatomical discourse behind closed doors. It does't really fit the tone at all. It also carries hopefully unintentional undertones of reducing female characters to their breasts. If you meant it in a innocous way, and like not sexist, I'd say the tone of this public forum with also people who likely don't know you and also don't know in which way you mean that question doesn't really fit for that. Thanks for answering. I withdraw the previous question as a subject for discussion. Thanks, bedlinsis, I'm grateful to you for understanding and being gracious about it <3 I'm part of one of the "belonging and inclusivity" teams where I work, but I'm also a manufacturing and tech industry veteran and I understand how attitudes have changed worldwide in the past 30 years. I'm also an older autistic woman and learned a lot about being awkward and how to avoid it  . I know I still have work to do, just like everyone else. But if you (or anyone else) would ever like any constructive conversation or feedback, I'm here to help. |
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Post by wies on Jul 30, 2020 6:40:33 GMT
Thanks for answering. I withdraw the previous question as a subject for discussion. Thank you. Thanks for answering. I withdraw the previous question as a subject for discussion. Thanks, bedlinsis, I'm grateful to you for understanding and being gracious about it <3 I'm part of one of the "belonging and inclusivity" teams where I work, but I'm also a manufacturing and tech industry veteran and I understand how attitudes have changed worldwide in the past 30 years. I'm also an older autistic woman and learned a lot about being awkward and how to avoid it . I know I still have work to do, just like everyone else. But if you (or anyone else) would ever like any constructive conversation or feedback, I'm here to help. Hah, I am autistic too and, as you can imagine, also a bit experienced in awkwardness . And yeah, the work on that is probably never finished. Probably because humans are often inherently awkward. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 30, 2020 18:02:20 GMT
So at this point, I'm just massively suspicious of Brinnie, and very glad that the Annies are wary of her. Let me count the ways: 1. If Brinnie's the traditional sort of Valkyrie, she's a psychopomp by definition. We know that Annie and both of her parents are Persons Of Interest to the psychopomp community, which has engaged in elaborate schemes to retain their services. 2. Brinnie's "old man" is presumably Odin, who's pretty much the multiversal champion of elaborate schemes. In mythology his life's purpose is to learn everything he can about the past, present and future of the nine realms, so that he can manipulate destiny and ensure the optimal outcome for Ragnarok. 3. Odin sent Brinnie to the Court, where she just happened to befriend Surma thanks to a twist of fate. Then she just happened to start pursuing Anthony Carver romantically. Had she succeeded, Surma would probably not have had a child so young, if ever, and her life and career as a medium would have lasted much longer. Tony, meanwhile, would have become involved with the psychopomps at a much younger age--and given his tendency toward obsessive devotion, he would probably have worked on any project Brinnie suggested. And now Brinnie shows up and claims to be ignorant of Surma's death, her relationship with Tony, and Annie's existence? To quote Kat, I don't buy it. And I suspect that Kat wouldn't be buying it either, if Brinnie hadn't cleverly distracted her with that opening glomp. Those are interesting thoughts. I hate to put a damper on them, but...
Also I feel if Brinnie deliberately tried to start a relationship with Tony as part of some plan, she did it very, very poorly. Maybe deliberately poor, who knows? I agree with you that it's a bit suspicious, the "mistake" the Court made when sorting Anja and Surma into Chester, and I wouldn't put it past the story if this was part of someone's long-running plan.
I agree that the "mistake", to quote Annie, seems... highly coincidental. Also wondering why both Anja and Brinnie, like everyone else talking about House Chester, seems uncomfortable about it. Anja I can get, since she was already shown to be uncomfortable with her own magic and wary of the Court's distrust of that, so she might still want to put distance between her and the ...extremely special students who are so disliked. But Brinnie? Actual Valkyrie Brinnie? What could be going on with House Chester that such a person thinks of them as strange. I think Brinnie is simply aware that the other students see Chester folk as "weirdos" and "freaks" and feels a bit uncomfortable about that, not knowing what Kat and the Annies think about that. |
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Post by wies on Jul 30, 2020 20:21:38 GMT
I agree that the "mistake", to quote Annie, seems... highly coincidental. Also wondering why both Anja and Brinnie, like everyone else talking about House Chester, seems uncomfortable about it. Anja I can get, since she was already shown to be uncomfortable with her own magic and wary of the Court's distrust of that, so she might still want to put distance between her and the ...extremely special students who are so disliked. But Brinnie? Actual Valkyrie Brinnie? What could be going on with House Chester that such a person thinks of them as strange. I think Brinnie is simply aware that the other students see Chester folk as "weirdos" and "freaks" and feels a bit uncomfortable about that, not knowing what Kat and the Annies think about that. Could be, but I don't see her as the person that feels awkward about what people think of her. She seems a bit of a show-off, as Eglamore remarked in that page. I think the source of the uncomfort is something else. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 30, 2020 20:44:15 GMT
I think Brinnie is simply aware that the other students see Chester folk as "weirdos" and "freaks" and feels a bit uncomfortable about that, not knowing what Kat and the Annies think about that.
Could be, but I don't see her as the person that feels awkward about what people think of her. She seems a bit of a show-off, as Eglamore remarked in that page. I think the source of the uncomfort is something else. Even if you don't care what people think of you, you can still feel bad if you caused others discomfort. |
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Post by Gemminie on Jul 31, 2020 7:12:43 GMT
I just think it's way past time that Anja got "Oh!"ed at. Oh!Oh!Oh! |
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Post by silicondream on Aug 1, 2020 10:42:56 GMT
Also I feel if Brinnie deliberately tried to start a relationship with Tony as part of some plan, she did it very, very poorly. Maybe deliberately poor, who knows? I agree with you that it's a bit suspicious, the "mistake" the Court made when sorting Anja and Surma into Chester, and I wouldn't put it past the story if this was part of someone's long-running plan.
Huh! Now I want to know what the difference is. Do Gunnerkrigg Valkyries not count as psychopomps because their client souls go to work in Valhalla instead of disappearing into the ether, or do they not deal in souls at all? Are they just shieldmaidens/bodyguards for the old man? As for Brinnie's seduction skills, I don't know that she did badly. She did get Tony thinking about her as a romantic possibility, which makes her more successful in that arena than anyone we've met so far besides Surma. And if her "mission" was to serve as a spoiler between the two, well, pushing Tony into a mega-awkward public rejection worked almost as well as dating him. It certainly kept the other girls very guarded around him for the next few years. Besides, at least in the Scandinavian legends, Valkyries are way too proud to pounce on someone the way Surma did; it's the lowly mortal's job to chase after you. Brynhildr was only grudgingly marrying a mortal in the first place because Odin demanded it. |
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Post by speedwell on Aug 1, 2020 10:54:36 GMT
Also I feel if Brinnie deliberately tried to start a relationship with Tony as part of some plan, she did it very, very poorly. Maybe deliberately poor, who knows? I agree with you that it's a bit suspicious, the "mistake" the Court made when sorting Anja and Surma into Chester, and I wouldn't put it past the story if this was part of someone's long-running plan.
Huh! Now I want to know what the difference is. Do Gunnerkrigg Valkyries not count as psychopomps because their client souls go to work in Valhalla instead of disappearing into the ether, or do they not deal in souls at all? Are they just shieldmaidens/bodyguards for the old man? Good question actually. In the Teutonic mythology, Valkyries work more like psychopomps' servants. Most of the psychopomps (Osiris is a good example) are judges and decide the person's afterlife fate, for good or ill. Others take the person to where it is already decided they will go. Valkyries don't have anything to do with that; they are simply tasked to go fetch dead warriors and take them to the place where the decision is made. Other dead people actually eventually go to the same place of judgment, if my source (Rydberg) is to be trusted. It's pretty complex, not like the Christian simplification of "Good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell". In Teutonic mythology everyone goes to Hel, everyone goes underground; there are simply realms of pure delight and realms of incredible anguish (and others in between) within Hel. It is possible for people to die again in the Teutonic mythology (they really do go to a place of torment). It isn't even assumed that all fallen warriors conveyed by Valkyries go to Valhalla - only the ones assigned to Odin's Ragnarok army do; Rydberg explains that amounts to about half of them. The rest are chosen by Freya to live with her and others of the dead in Fólkvangr, where women who died a noble death also go (I suppose it wouldn't be much of an afterlife for them without worthy men around, heh). I guess the actual psychopomps would be Odin and Freya themselves. |
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