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Post by hp on Jul 7, 2017 22:13:51 GMT
Guess this is when my piece of fan art becomes canon  |
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Post by jda on Jul 7, 2017 22:23:29 GMT
Guess this is when my piece of fan art becomes canon BURN, BABY, BURN! |
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Post by Druplesnubb on Jul 7, 2017 22:57:23 GMT
I don't think Annie's gonna take this particularly well. That said, if everything was just fine with her dad there would be nothing wrong about this, so if she does get upset it might force her to come to terms with her true feelings for her dad.
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Post by saardvark on Jul 7, 2017 23:32:39 GMT
I don't think Annie is surprised to see Anthony. If a bunch of time has passed, she should know they were working together. She might be surprised to hear Anthony laugh (if he hasn't done so in the months that were skipped). Or, she might be able to see Robot or whatever they are working on, and be impressed by the progress they've made since she last visited Kat's workshop. Or maybe she's just surprised by Kat's haircut. Unless the time skip has been a lot shorter than everyone seems to the no, I expect Annie already knew that Tony was helping Kat. If you're right, then Tom pulls a double fake-out on us... 1) that laughing Tony is the secret colleague and he and Kat are now bffs, and 2) that Annie is not stunned by (1), but rather something more mundane (Tony's chuckle, Kat's hair, Robot progress). That might be Tom thing to do.... |
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Post by saardvark on Jul 8, 2017 0:07:07 GMT
I know a lot of people called this, but honestly I didn't take it seriously for a second. This is completely out of left field! Especially considering how literally EVERY time Kat and Tony have interacted or Kat has even been asked about her opinion on him, the response from her has been pure, boiling, seething hatred the likes of which would make Genghis Khan pee himself. Also I like Kat's new haircut. Is this the shortest we've ever seen her go? the idea of the ruthless Mongol leader having to wear Depends in the presence of Kat just about made me into an involuntary coffee fountain... |
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Post by fish on Jul 8, 2017 0:50:07 GMT
This page is stressing me out, there's so much tension in the last two panels. How does Tom do this??
No matter how much Kat and Tony seem to get along here, the moment Tony starts taking to Annie he will mess up and make her feel bad for some reason. In that moment there is no way Kat would just stand by and say nothing. She'll defend her like Annie always defends Ysengrin. At least that's what I hope.
And anyway, this might lead to progress. These are the two most important people in Annie's life and they are finally getting along. Come on, just work through this, you... fictional characters that I'm way too emotionally invested in!
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Post by warrl on Jul 8, 2017 2:09:44 GMT
Oh hai father. Or maybe it should be the other way around. "Hai-oh father"? No, the line was "Hai-oh Silver". The hair growth is the smoking gun here, guys. Unless a few months passed between 1836 and 1837 with Kat just simply not moving or changing her clothes, the time shift during which Annie's hair grew must have occured between 1852 and 1853. Which means both that Kat is a huge guilty secret keeper and Annie is very unobservant. Another alternative: a few months passed between 1836 and 1837. Kat, who was wearing lab/workshop clothing and working on something on her workbench in 1836, is doing the same in 1837 because that's what she does when she's in her lab/workshop. As for Kat getting accustomed to Tony, remember that he's been one of her teachers all this school year. |
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Post by csj on Jul 8, 2017 2:33:27 GMT
I did not hit her! It’s not true! It’s bullshit! I did not hit her! I did not! |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 8, 2017 3:44:13 GMT
I mean, when has she last seen her father smile at anything?Shown in-comic? When Donny came to visit him. Also I guess the blue laugh belongs to Kat, who's speec bubbles have a blue tint and whose voice would not suprise Annie. If it was Anthony laughing, Annie should have recognized his voice (don't tell me she never heard him laugh, he did laugh when he was talking to Donny in private) and have been surprised earlier. |
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 8, 2017 5:29:06 GMT
I did not hit her! It’s not true! It’s bullshit! I did not hit her! I did not! YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, ANNIE |
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Post by faiiry on Jul 8, 2017 5:49:27 GMT
The conversation just before Annie entered the room:
Anthony: You want me to order a pizza?
Kat: Whatever, I don't care.
Anthony: I already ordered a pizza.
Kat: Hehe! Whaat? You think about everything!
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Post by phantaskippy on Jul 8, 2017 6:51:03 GMT
And Annie finds out that her father really has only one person in the entire world he really can't deal with, and it's her.
And really, you have to admit that even a normal person would be freaked out if the object of your naughtiest affections died passing her spirit into your daughter.
I mean, so many levels of emotional trauma and confusion exist between Tony and his daughter.
I bet he talks to Kat to find out more about his daughter, and it helps Annie.
It's all too freaking weird.
But what I hope we find out, more than anything, is what Surma saw in Tony. Her interactions with James, Renard and Tony raise some really serious questions for me.
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 8, 2017 11:34:54 GMT
But what I hope we find out, more than anything, is what Surma saw in Tony. Her interactions with James, Renard and Tony raise some really serious questions for me. And I still want to know which matters did Tony have to attend to! Was he working for the Court even back then? |
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Post by todd on Jul 8, 2017 13:45:15 GMT
Another alternative: a few months passed between 1836 and 1837. Kat, who was wearing lab/workshop clothing and working on something on her workbench in 1836, is doing the same in 1837 because that's what she does when she's in her lab/workshop. In which case, Tom made it too easy for the audience to misinterpret by providing no signs that time had passed between those two pages. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Jul 8, 2017 16:07:46 GMT
Another alternative: a few months passed between 1836 and 1837. Kat, who was wearing lab/workshop clothing and working on something on her workbench in 1836, is doing the same in 1837 because that's what she does when she's in her lab/workshop. In which case, Tom made it too easy for the audience to misinterpret by providing no signs that time had passed between those two pages. Three to four inches of hair growth isn't enough indication of a few months of time? This page is just the first part of the reveal. Over the next few pages we'll find out what Annie is really surprised to see and what Kat and Annie told each other that we didn't see. Based on part one of a multiple part reveal, I think Annie already knew that Kat and her father were working together, but she is stunned that Kat is now getting along well with her father. "I never thought I would hear you laugh around my father." I guess I should be thankful this wasn't the chapter ending cliff hanger followed by a two week break. |
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Post by creepingone on Jul 8, 2017 16:15:50 GMT
Not sure what to think. If there's one thing I've learned about Tom, it's that he enjoys subverting expectations.
OT: I met him in NYC about a year ago, he's a really nice guy. If anyone has the chance to meet him, do it.
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Post by Refugee on Jul 8, 2017 19:26:24 GMT
"Hey, Annie! Great news! I'm gonna be your new mom!"
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Post by jda on Jul 8, 2017 20:15:50 GMT
"Hey, Annie! Great news! I'm gonna be your new mom!" Called twice already. It's almost canon now. |
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Post by Refugee on Jul 8, 2017 20:20:31 GMT
"Hey, Annie! Great news! I'm gonna be your new mom!" Called twice already. It's almost canon now. Gah. I scanned the thread twice looking for it, and apparently missed it. Still: "We've told you once, we've told you twice, what we tell you three times is true!" |
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Post by Earin on Jul 8, 2017 20:28:49 GMT
"Look, we managed to overwrite your dad's consciousness with Robot!"
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Post by Zox Tomana on Jul 8, 2017 20:44:13 GMT
"Look, we managed to overwrite your dad's consciousness with Robot!" "We're not entirely sure it worked, it's hard to tell the difference." |
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Post by todd on Jul 8, 2017 23:58:13 GMT
In which case, Tom made it too easy for the audience to misinterpret by providing no signs that time had passed between those two pages. Three to four inches of hair growth isn't enough indication of a few months of time? Annie's longer hair appeared after the meeting between Kat and Juliette, not during it. There's no sign in the pages where Juliette and Arthur are visiting Kat that it's not taking place directly after Kat and Annie's conversation. |
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Post by jda on Jul 9, 2017 0:27:59 GMT
Three to four inches of hair growth isn't enough indication of a few months of time? Annie's longer hair appeared after the meeting between Kat and Juliette, not during it. There's no sign in the pages where Juliette and Arthur are visiting Kat that it's not taking place directly after Kat and Annie's conversation. It very well might be hair extensions. Also, the art style change, so the growth on both teenagers may only look sudden. *not even me believe it* |
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Post by todd on Jul 9, 2017 12:38:08 GMT
I remember one of the readers protesting Tom's decision to skip over Annie's stay in Gilltie Wood during the second summer, taking up the story again with her return to the Court, for not showing what her life was like in the Wood. While Tom did show us that in the two "Annie in the Forest" books, I found myself identifying with that reader's concern in how Tom has (apparently) presented Kat's change of opinion towards Anthony, fast-forwarding to her now being friends with him without showing us the process. At least there's still time for flashbacks.
But I still hope that he had a better reason for telling the story this way than the momentary thrill of a big shock.
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Post by fish on Jul 9, 2017 15:26:15 GMT
Have some faith, guys. Or at least hold off on losing your faith until the end of the chapter.
There's no way Kat's change of mind won't be properly adressed.
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Post by fia on Jul 9, 2017 15:49:05 GMT
If the plot were any thicker, it would curdle!
Good thing I like custard.
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Post by The Anarch on Jul 9, 2017 16:26:59 GMT
"Look, we managed to overwrite your dad's consciousness with Robot!" "We're not entirely sure it worked, it's hard to tell the difference." " . . . it was worth it." |
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Post by keef on Jul 9, 2017 20:58:27 GMT
I remember one of the readers protesting Tom's decision to skip over Annie's stay in Gilltie Wood during the second summer, taking up the story again with her return to the Court, for not showing what her life was like in the Wood. While Tom did show us that in the two "Annie in the Forest" books, I found myself identifying with that reader's concern in how Tom has (apparently) presented Kat's change of opinion towards Anthony, fast-forwarding to her now being friends with him without showing us the process. At least there's still time for flashbacks. Well, tastes differ I suppose. I actually like storytelling were not every detail is filled in. If Tom had decided not to tell us what happened in the forest during Annie's stay, that would have been fine by me, as I would simply have assumed it was not important to the story. I wasn't a fan of the endless exposition in the last few chapters, but I assume it was necessary. (Although I'm afraid some of it was triggered by people on this forum and in the comments "protesting" and demanding explanations. ) I love storytelling like the two inch of hair growth meaning: a couple of months later. I hope we find out what changed Kat's mind in regard to Tony in a natural way and without to much explaining. But if the author wants us to figure it out for our self without giving too much away, I'm OK with that. I would actually prefer that to four pages of talking heads telling us what has happened in the timeskip. I don't know, it's not unusual for a storyteller to shake up his audience once in a while. |
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