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Post by Runningflame on Jun 6, 2018 19:44:24 GMT
I was wondering why it is that Jones appears as a woman (rather than a man or even a child). She has been around since the earth's formation, and she identifies herself as a stone. She also exhibits motherly behavior toward the humans she "adopts." Does that make her... Mother Earth?
Edit: Page 113! Woo!
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Post by fjodorii on Jun 7, 2018 7:28:56 GMT
Runningflame, good call on the archer, it makes a lot of sense. I don't think we've seen a character who has shown a talent for guns or cannons yet, have we? Something to look out for though.
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Post by fjodorii on Jun 7, 2018 7:32:34 GMT
I was wondering why it is that Jones appears as a woman (rather than a man or even a child). She has been around since the earth's formation, and she identifies herself as a stone. She also exhibits motherly behavior toward the humans she "adopts." Does that make her... Mother Earth? I always see her as the counterweight to Coyote: the way he is 100% born from the ether and gets all of his power from there, Jones is the absolute opposite of it. But then I cannot explain why Coyote would best her in a fight, like Tom said. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 7, 2018 20:41:06 GMT
I was wondering why it is that Jones appears as a woman (rather than a man or even a child). She has been around since the earth's formation, and she identifies herself as a stone. She also exhibits motherly behavior toward the humans she "adopts." Does that make her... Mother Earth? I always see her as the counterweight to Coyote: the way he is 100% born from the ether and gets all of his power from there, Jones is the absolute opposite of it. But then I cannot explain why Coyote would best her in a fight, like Tom said. Coyote can pluck the moon from space and alter the landscape with a move of his paw. Jones is indestructible and stronger than current measuring equipment can record without being destroyed, but she never seemed to move very fast and Coyote fights dirty. I imagine he would "win" a fight with by doing something like stopping time, picking her up (she is heavy like stone, but not more, or else she would have broken Parley's bed whent standing on it) and hurling her out of the atmosphere far away into space, maybe even drop her into a black hole. |
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Post by warrl on Jun 7, 2018 22:07:37 GMT
I don't think Coyote and Jones can touch each other - directly - at all.
Coyote has more control of the world around them.
He can't throw Jones into space. But he can throw the chunk of rock she's standing on into space. Assuming that she doesn't fall/jump off, that's a distinction that makes no difference.
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Post by todd on Jun 8, 2018 2:20:53 GMT
I was wondering why it is that Jones appears as a woman (rather than a man or even a child). She has been around since the earth's formation, and she identifies herself as a stone. She also exhibits motherly behavior toward the humans she "adopts." Does that make her... Mother Earth? I remember there was a Stone Age Venus figurine in one of the treatises. Maybe that was intended as an allusion to Jones. |
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Post by todd on Jun 8, 2018 2:26:49 GMT
The real reason why the "monster" forest-folk kept attacking Jeanne (and getting slaughtered) wasn't to attack the Court (except at first), but because they saw her as the "ultimate warrior" to test their prowess and skill against. And Ysengrin double dog dared them to try. Come to think of it, all the fights between Jeanne and forest-folk shown in the past (the one near the start of the last chapter, and the ones referred to in the Realm of the Dead with the "final moments" of the slain caught on the screen) were one-on-one fights; I can't recall any where a whole bunch of forest-folk tried taking Jeanne on all at once (though that would seem the more likely tactic for would-be invaders) - which might support the theory that they were more interested in battling Jeanne to prove their worth as warriors than in attacking the Court. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 8, 2018 13:27:15 GMT
I don't think Coyote and Jones can touch each other - directly - at all. Coyote has more control of the world around them. He can't throw Jones into space. But he can throw the chunk of rock she's standing on into space. Assuming that she doesn't fall/jump off, that's a distinction that makes no difference. Why do you think they cannot touch each other?
When Coyote stopped time, Jones was frozen as well, so Coyote's godly abilities can affect her.
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Post by warrl on Jun 8, 2018 16:39:40 GMT
There are several alternate explanations for Coyote apparently stopping time. In some of them, he didn't do anything at all to anything in the universe except himself and Annie.
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Post by Runningflame on Jun 9, 2018 4:49:48 GMT
On the page 1998 thread, people are speculating about whether Tony is finally going to show some affection toward his daughter. My vote is "Approval, yes (hopefully); affection, no." Wildspec: I think we'll have to wait until page 3000 for a hug or an "I love you." It'll be the last page of the comic--right after Annie tells her dad, "I'm pregnant."
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 10, 2018 10:08:22 GMT
There are several alternate explanations for Coyote apparently stopping time. In some of them, he didn't do anything at all to anything in the universe except himself and Annie. Even in that case, Jones was not able to notice, so Coyote can at least deceive her with his powers. |
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Post by warrl on Jun 10, 2018 16:00:56 GMT
There are several alternate explanations for Coyote apparently stopping time. In some of them, he didn't do anything at all to anything in the universe except himself and Annie. Even in that case, Jones was not able to notice, so Coyote can at least deceive her with his powers. Well yes, but it's pretty easy to keep a blind person from seeing what you're doing. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jun 11, 2018 19:47:21 GMT
Even in that case, Jones was not able to notice, so Coyote can at least deceive her with his powers. Well yes, but it's pretty easy to keep a blind person from seeing what you're doing. Which might be enough to win a fight with said person. 
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Post by netherdan on Jun 12, 2018 15:04:25 GMT
On the page 1998 thread, people are speculating about whether Tony is finally going to show some affection toward his daughter. My vote is "Approval, yes (hopefully); affection, no." Wildspec: I think we'll have to wait until page 3000 for a hug or an "I love you." It'll be the last page of the comic--right after Annie tells her dad, "I'm pregnant." "But I love Surma even more" "What?" "Do you mind if I cut my other arm to make sure you give birth to her?" "DAD!?" - The end |
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Post by clover on Jun 19, 2018 23:09:49 GMT
Hey, has anyone ever done a complex analysis of the color of the speech bubbles that characters have? Annie turned into kind of a periwinkle-ish color at a specific date but was not always in that color range, kat has always been blue-ish, jones had a yellow tinge, coyote's was red but didn't appear to be in the episode in which he got eaten.
THERE'S A STORY HERE I JUST KNOW IT. Is there a color timeline and a list of characters who have different colors than just white?
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Post by clover on Jun 27, 2018 0:41:30 GMT
Huh! it seems like nobody knows yet.
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Post by Eversist on Jun 27, 2018 4:35:19 GMT
Huh! it seems like nobody knows yet. It's been commented on, but I'm not sure if in a cohesive/methodical way. From what I remember when he was asked, Tom said he did it at the beginning to differentiate who's speaking, but then when more characters were introduced he dropped the trend (but kept the ones he had already established). And I think he just said the slight color change over time was not for any particular reason (my guess is maybe to make it less imposing). Then again, my memory is poo. |
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Post by keef on Jun 27, 2018 9:41:24 GMT
Hey, has anyone ever done a complex analysis of the color of the speech bubbles that characters have? Annie turned into kind of a periwinkle-ish color at a specific date but was not always in that color range, kat has always been blue-ish, jones had a yellow tinge, coyote's was red but didn't appear to be in the episode in which he got eaten. THERE'S A STORY HERE I JUST KNOW IT. Is there a color timeline and a list of characters who have different colors than just white? Jones is the last character to lose her speech bubble colour. Probably only Annie, Kat, Rey, Shadow and the robots will have coloured bubbles in the end, but we haven't seen Jack, Zimmy and Gamma since Torn Sea. The slight variation in colour is probably due to the fact that pages are saved to .jpg for use on the website.
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Bob's speech balloon colour was 87% grey in Chapter 6 and 90% grey in chapter 14. I apologise sincerely for this. In my defense, some of the blame lies with the Joint Photographic Expert Group. Ha, never noticed that one before |
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Post by tc on Jun 27, 2018 10:14:12 GMT
On the page 1998 thread, people are speculating about whether Tony is finally going to show some affection toward his daughter. Well, on pages 2000-2002, Tony has definitely demonstrated that he actually thinks very highly of Annie, both in terms of ability and as a person. Obviously Annie arrived just after he'd finished explaining things to Jimmy, but that's character arcs for you... |
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Post by madjack on Jul 2, 2018 7:35:31 GMT
Random thought: How much heat would Jones generate when she came back down? Enough to start a forest fire? 'Cos I can see a whole other kind of evac being necessary if she lands in Gillitie and it begins to burn.... Reply Here. |
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Post by blazingstar on Jul 2, 2018 16:40:34 GMT
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Post by torontoregonian on Jul 4, 2018 11:58:17 GMT
When I was a kid, my most treasured book was one I got when my grandma and aunty took me to Crater Lake. It's called "Indian Legends of the Pacific Northwest" and there are a TON of fascinating Coyote stories in it. Over the years, I read that book so much that it literally fell apart.
Recently, I picked up a new 50th Anniversary edition of the book, and one of the stories in particular caught my interest. It is about the ceremony where Coyote got his powers, and in it, the Creator mentions that "Fox is your brother. If you die, he will be able to revive you," and that Coyote's powers were found in tules (which is a kind of plant that grows in marshy areas, used by Native Americans to make baskets, mats, bowls, etc).
Anyway...I have a feeling Renard is going to play an important part in Coyote's revival.
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Post by clover on Jul 5, 2018 15:41:16 GMT
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 13, 2018 14:47:19 GMT
What do you think Annie has in her backpack, besides the gloves she removed? I'm thinking definitely the tooth; she got it way back on page 686, the same chapter we are asked about the 'true Ysengrin', titled, "The Old Dog's Tricks". I suspect Tom (or Coyote) is continuing to play the long game. Maybe Annie has figured or will figure something out that we haven't. Personally, I think the tooth will pop up later in the story, together with the "goose bone" and the "lake water", and then some interesting things will happen.Edit: Ninja'd.
Speculation born from this exchange: Coyote made very sure no one in the Forest would learn about the tooth. After he gave it to her, he removed his own memory of giving it to her, and hid or destroyed it, so that Ysengrin would not be able to learn about the tooth even after eating Coyote's body.
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Post by fjodorii on Jul 16, 2018 10:06:07 GMT
The reason why Ysengrin lost an ear is because he and Reynardine fought over Surma. (Now that 'Neither' is showing affections for Annie, it will turn out that Rey wasn't the only one who was smitten with Surma. And in the beginning of the story Coyote mistook Annie for her mum, and Annie has rekindled Ys' love for Surma. It would also explain why he chose a human-like appearance; he wanted to impress Surma with it.)
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Post by todd on Jul 16, 2018 12:35:30 GMT
The reason why Ysengrin lost an ear is because he and Reynardine fought over Surma. (Now that 'Neither' is showing affections for Annie, it will turn out that Rey wasn't the only one who was smitten with Surma. And in the beginning of the story Coyote mistook Annie for her mum, and Annie has rekindled Ys' love for Surma. It would also explain why he chose a human-like appearance; he wanted to impress Surma with it.) Actually, we now know why Ysengrin lost an ear; the "Coyote" spin-off book reveals it. (For further information, I highly recommend the book.) |
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Post by fjodorii on Jul 18, 2018 8:40:38 GMT
Actually, we now know why Ysengrin lost an ear; the "Coyote" spin-off book reveals it. (For further information, I highly recommend the book.) Ah good to know. It is on my shopping list! |
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Post by madjack on Jul 25, 2018 8:31:29 GMT
Hmm. What defence do you have against a near-omnipotent god who is unpredictable due to things like choosing to forget his own history, just to stay entertained? A device that could objectively predict the future. I'm more convinced than ever that this is what the Omega project is: No more potential, no room for action, everything known. Man's endeavour to become god.Something like that would put a serious cramp in Coyote's style. |
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Post by pyradonis on Jul 25, 2018 16:59:57 GMT
I don't think she'd bring with her a weapon she don't know how to use and could easily be turned against her, but who knows. Personally, I think the tooth will pop up later in the story, together with the "goose bone" and the "lake water", and then some interesting things will happen.Edit: Ninja'd. Speculation born from this exchange: Coyote made very sure no one in the Forest would learn about the tooth. After he gave it to her, he removed his own memory of giving it to her, and hid or destroyed it, so that Ysengrin would not be able to learn about the tooth even after eating Coyote's body.
I think today's page makes this speculation a little bit less wild.  |
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Post by novia on Jul 28, 2018 21:18:31 GMT
Those giant totems are there so Annie can drag them back to the court, and finally Ysengrin and Coyote can be resurrected as school children |
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