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Post by mordekai on Aug 8, 2015 17:22:56 GMT
I mean, "after all those years I still couldn't find a medical explanation to what happened to her"?! WTF?! What does "medical science" know about freaking Fire Elementals? And that from a guy that grew side by side with supernatural creatures, next to a magical forest... We don't actually know exactly what is encompassed by Tony's "medical explanation", do we? It could include some weird shit, just not the weird shit that might have been of use to him. he was friends with a nymph when he was younger Valkyrie? Ah, yes, Brinnie was a Valkyrie. I misremembered. You know, I think she's another "person" who could probably find the Afterlife Guides any time she wanted. For all we know she IS an Afterlife Guide, because you know, Valkyrie. She may even know the details about Surma's problem. |
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Post by Bill on Aug 8, 2015 20:44:00 GMT
Alright, Tony should be more understanding of what Annie has done and been through than he would have been 3 years ago. And I need to reevaluate the Court; no country is able to track people that well so far as I know; Coyote has been represented like that several times.
Dammit Donald, Anthony, Antimony, if a father-daughter heart-to-heart conversation (preferably face-to-face) does not happen in the next 24 in-comic hours, I am going to slap all of you. And ask Kat to have the Carvers locked in the same room until they do.
... If Anthony still doesn't believe the whole fire elemental thing, Annie is in an ideal position to prove it.
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Post by keef on Aug 8, 2015 21:34:19 GMT
You know, I think she's another "person" who could probably find the Afterlife Guides any time she wanted. Likely yes. No she isn'tPossible, I guessed earlier it was Coyote who told Surma about her inheritance, but it could have been Brinnie. |
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Post by todd on Aug 9, 2015 1:10:17 GMT
... If Anthony still doesn't believe the whole fire elemental thing, Annie is in an ideal position to prove it. In light of Kat's scepticism about magic even after seeing a lot of etheric phenomena, and the Court's equal scepticism about it despite everything that goes on within it and nearby, Anthony's outlook may not be so surprising. |
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Post by warrl on Aug 9, 2015 4:33:40 GMT
Alright, Tony should be more understanding of what Annie has done and been through than he would have been 3 years ago. And I need to reevaluate the Court; no country is able to track people that well so far as I know; Coyote has been represented like that several times. Anthony's belief that the court was closely tracking him does not constitute proof that the court was actually tracking him at all. And even if the court reopened contact, it may be that the court decided to do so while having no idea where he was and had to begin by finding him. (Of course, it's also at least hypothetically possible that his belief is correct.) |
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Post by tulicloure on Aug 9, 2015 5:55:08 GMT
Another possibility is that Anthony thought Zimmy punching him was a Court sanctioned act of punishment/revenge/whatever "I lost it through my own foolishness" ... in believing that the Court wasn't aware of his attempt of the "bone surgery"? That actually sounds quite possible to me. |
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Post by scottjm on Aug 9, 2015 6:16:55 GMT
Anthony's belief that the court was closely tracking him does not constitute proof that the court was actually tracking him at all. And even if the court reopened contact, it may be that the court decided to do so while having no idea where he was and had to begin by finding him. (Of course, it's also at least hypothetically possible that his belief is correct.) If you have a student/employee who is prone to disappearing for notable periods of time, then you might do something so you can always track him/her. |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on Aug 9, 2015 15:18:36 GMT
Anthony's belief that the court was closely tracking him does not constitute proof that the court was actually tracking him at all. And even if the court reopened contact, it may be that the court decided to do so while having no idea where he was and had to begin by finding him. (Of course, it's also at least hypothetically possible that his belief is correct.) If you have a student/employee who is prone to disappearing for notable periods of time, then you might do something so you can always track him/her. If you have a student/employee who is borderline paranoid, like Anthony "Sneaky McSneakerson" Carver, then you might feed that paranoia by occasionally watching him, letting him know he is being watched, and letting him believe the surveillance is continuous. |
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Post by TBeholder on Aug 9, 2015 20:30:02 GMT
"Hey Antimony, dear. Do you know anything about Mum's dead friends?" ... well, it might have saved him a journey. Yeah. Especially since we know the punchline, more or less. Those who have read Gogol, a bit more.  The court's ability to track/spy on people is terrifying. Either that, or Anthony Carver exercises self-importance... again. Consider the opposite possibility: for all we know, the Court's movers and shakers (of one generation ago) enjoyed having this cheerful chap around as much as just about everyone else does, so they dug out some century-old log out of a "fool's errand" cabinet and bargained with him for "an important mission"... that by pure coincidence will keep him far away... and knowing his obsessive nature, expected to get rid of him for good. And then oops, the cat comes back - "Mission complete!" - what to do? I wonder who he's met, though. Maybe a wise old man in a cave who told him it was dangerous to go alone, perhaps. I'd rather expect some obese herbalist in a little village on a tributary of Don. (see above) We do not know he was traveling to try and revive Surma, he might have been trying to understand why he failed, or he could also have been trying to prevent the same fate from befalling Annie. Actually if he was still going to work to prevent Annie from meeting the same end as Surma that might partly explain why the never told her what was really going on. As if annie is hopefully not going to die the same way then telling her about it only causes her guilt over Surma's death, so holding off on telling her until she needs to know would be to spare annie from that guilt. Good point. And of course, no need to tell someone more knowledgeable in this very area about his little experiment because This Time He Will Not Fail. In other words, he didn't grow enough of critical thinking to hold his hubris back. Quite likely. this session of Anthony on Anthony will probably consist mostly of Anthony's good reasons for doing stuff he did and therefore will shine a positive light on the actions of Anthony. Many people in their own minds are righteous heroes and innocent victims in the stories of their own lives; where they blame themselves for things, it's generally for big important things they should not have tried to control or never could have controlled to begin with... And he is likely to be much more oblivious (and possibly delusional) than most people. The best little detail is that Surma's death was his Great Failure, but... Surma herself obviously didn't even consider other possibilities: he said that she planned for her inevitable death, and that's it - no mentions of any variants in case she remains alive (and what else we have seen confirms this), or anything. He somehow managed to not notice this. |
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Post by SilverbackRon on Aug 10, 2015 5:55:30 GMT
First thing I thought when I saw the Bismuth sun over the valley was the Coyote Moon (ain't he a stinker?). But of course the bismuth sun has the color palate of the court, not Coyote. All in all a rather interesting page. I love finally hearing something from Anthony about his missing years. I am glad Donnie was wise enough to get Annie to eavesdrop on this exposition, as she desperately needs it. I think it will humanize him in her mind, rather than the perfect superdad she has idealized, or should I say idolized. Clearly deep down inside she has had episodes of pain because of her father's absence. We first saw it in one of my favorite chapters "A Handful of Dirt" and even then Tom wanted us to see Anthony as a dad who had ditched his daughter. And repeatedly since, especially the past few months. I am just excited to see some forward motion to the story. We seemed to have been in a bit of a bog the past two chapters of pain... What comes next? What if he finally meets a psychopomp, only to have them say "Go ask Annie". He is so humiliated by that reply, and that is why he has been a total douchebag since he returned. He doesn't want to face the fact that the ONE person who might be able to help him is the one person he is afraid to talk to? [/wildspec] [/sillyspec] |
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