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Post by goldenknots on May 6, 2015 17:49:34 GMT
Is that red stripe just a part of Annie's dress or something more? I'm probably over-thinking this. The plain shift that she was wearing when she left, last chapter, was a bit more blue, this dress is grey, with a red belt. Still nothing like what we're used to seeing her wear, so I'm guessing Anthony threw out all her old clothes and is dictating her wardrobe along with everything else. |
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Post by bmat on May 6, 2015 19:17:28 GMT
I really think that Anthony is trying to "cure" her of being fire elemental.
But an unworthy thought is that now Annie is getting all of Kat's attention. Paz isn't Kat's first thought right now?
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Post by youwiththeface on May 6, 2015 19:51:25 GMT
I really think that Anthony is trying to "cure" her of being fire elemental. But an unworthy thought is that now Annie is getting all of Kat's attention. Paz isn't Kat's first thought right now? Why would she be? I mean sure she's her girlfriend, but I'd think a good boyfriend or girlfriend would be understanding if a friend of their boy/girlfriend was in trouble or having a rough time and needed help and/or support. And so far there's no evidence that's resulted in anything like Kat neglecting Paz. I'm more worried about the robots. If Kat's focus on Annie's situ ation has taken her mind and her attention off her work....they're not gonna be happy. |
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Post by Vilthuril on May 6, 2015 20:05:31 GMT
I don't know why everyone jumped to the conclusion that this is Annie's living space. Ok, I know why (Tony is a jerk), but I didn't! This is some kind of top-level chamber and I assume the living quarters are underneath? This is where they have to meet when they sneak out to do so. Not necessarily where Annie lives. Kat knocked (clanged?) on the door. My go-to assumption was that that was The Secret Knock, and this was The Room Where The Sneak(ing) Takes Place. Could be wrong, of course! Could be her living room, though with only one other speck in it I guess she wouldn't get much studying done. At least not there. Unless it's a door to another room. *tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap* Come here you! (Kat rawx!)  |
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Post by Vilthuril on May 6, 2015 20:10:48 GMT
I really think that Anthony is trying to "cure" her of being fire elemental. But an unworthy thought is that now Annie is getting all of Kat's attention. Paz isn't Kat's first thought right now? Why would she be? I mean sure she's her girlfriend, but I'd think a good boyfriend or girlfriend would be understanding if a friend of their boy/girlfriend was in trouble or having a rough time and needed help and/or support. And so far there's no evidence that's resulted in anything like Kat neglecting Paz. I'm more worried about the robots. If Kat's focus on Annie's situ ation has taken her mind and her attention off her work....they're not gonna be happy. I think Anthony is the one who would be most at risk from the robots, depending of course on how they analyze the situation. They wouldn't mess directly with Kat, and I don't see how them messing with Annie would do any good from their perspective. Short of taking Paz hostage (or rather, having "someone else" take Paz hostage) with the "ransom" being Kat returning to her work - assuming she ever left it - it would seem that the quickest way to restoring the status quo would be to drive Anthony out of the Court, for example by making his life a living hell and/or making it look to the Court's Powers That Be like he is a problem/out of control. And since the robots apparently run everything, it seems they could do it. |
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Post by Refugee on May 6, 2015 20:40:08 GMT
I really think that Anthony is trying to "cure" her of being fire elemental. I still refuse to attribute actions to Anthony unless Tom attests to them. That includes things like controlling her clothing and "curing" her of hosting a fire elemental. I think that last is in fact rather likely, but I can't see that making Annie dress in a utilitarian smock is going to help. The smock, the hair cut, all of that, even not wearing makeup, all of that is Annie herself, letting go not of everything she's achieved, but at least shedding the outward signs of her trying to take her Mom's role, and certainly of the class uniform she may feel she's not entitled to anymore. And in its way, that humbling of herself speaks more loudly to me than anything Anthony might have ordered. This is Annie rebuilding herself. As painful as it is, I think she'll be better for it. But an unworthy thought is that now Annie is getting all of Kat's attention. Paz isn't Kat's first thought right now? The departure strip shows Kat sending a telepathically strong look at Paz as she boards the carriage. And I think she's saying, I need to tend to my friend's crisis, but I need you to hold the fort. |
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Post by Refugee on May 6, 2015 20:48:40 GMT
Kat knocked (clanged?) on the door. My go-to assumption was that that was The Secret Knock, and this was The Room Where The Sneak(ing) Takes Place. Could be wrong, of course! Could be her living room, though with only one other speck in it I guess she wouldn't get much studying done. At least not there. Unless it's a door to another room. Yes. This cannot be Annie's new apartment. As noted by several, it lacks the necessities. And I agree: this is probably a space chosen by Kat as a meeting place. I wonder if she's swept it for bugs and tracking receivers. It's stark emptiness would really help with that. (Although those ceiling windows or light panels could be problematic.) Yes, yes she does. Rawx hard core. |
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Post by youwiththeface on May 6, 2015 21:13:13 GMT
I think Anthony is the one who would be most at risk from the robots, depending of course on how they analyze the situation. They wouldn't mess directly with Kat, and I don't see how them messing with Annie would do any good from their perspective. Short of taking Paz hostage (or rather, having "someone else" take Paz hostage) with the "ransom" being Kat returning to her work - assuming she ever left it - it would seem that the quickest way to restoring the status quo would be to drive Anthony out of the Court, for example by making his life a living hell and/or making it look to the Court's Powers That Be like he is a problem/out of control. And since the robots apparently run everything, it seems they could do it. I think if the robots went after Anthony we'd all be rooting for injuries, but neither Annie nor probably even Kat would want anyone to hurt Anthony (least not so far) and that happening would not help Annie get unbrainwashed. |
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Post by Refugee on May 6, 2015 21:45:00 GMT
I think Anthony is the one who would be most at risk from the robots, depending of course on how they analyze the situation. They wouldn't mess directly with Kat, and I don't see how them messing with Annie would do any good from their perspective. Short of taking Paz hostage (or rather, having "someone else" take Paz hostage) with the "ransom" being Kat returning to her work - assuming she ever left it - it would seem that the quickest way to restoring the status quo would be to drive Anthony out of the Court, for example by making his life a living hell and/or making it look to the Court's Powers That Be like he is a problem/out of control. And since the robots apparently run everything, it seems they could do it. I think if the robots went after Anthony we'd all be rooting for injuries, but neither Annie nor probably even Kat would want anyone to hurt Anthony (least not so far) and that happening would not help Annie get unbrainwashed. I'm pretty sure, though not certain, that the robots would be reluctant to interfere with Kat's plans, having learned a lesson in The Torn Sea. Of course, they decreed the consequences of their actions were "worth it", so...yeah, I'm far from certain. |
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Post by arkadi on May 6, 2015 21:54:26 GMT
>_< Uuuuuuugggh! I was hoping this'd turn out to be a secret meeting of Team Let's Rescue Annie. But no: this really is where Carver has put Annie up. And now I dare not hope that the rest of the place doesn't look like this. Yup, I'm giving up all hope and preparing for the worst. The next scene will probably be Carver dissecting Reynardine alive or something even worse.
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Post by Onomatopoeia on May 6, 2015 22:26:11 GMT
The more this whole charade continues, the more my respect for Tom diminishes.
A guy that's supposed to be logical and methodical just shows up out of the blue and starts fucking with Annie's life for no evident reason. I'm trying to give Anthony the benefit of the doubt in the face of the crazy people screaming for his bloody murder because HE WAS MEAN TO ANNIE but this is just ridiculous.
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Post by TBeholder on May 6, 2015 22:32:10 GMT
This room looks like the spaces that the robots use, so we can live in hope that Kat arranged this place for a meet-up, maybe? The Infinite Corridors Area? Well, probably. The last page looked like an industrial zone either way. Oh, great. I now suffer nostalgia over sneaking into factories of all things.  |
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Post by ninjaraven on May 6, 2015 22:47:57 GMT
Now, now, everyone, let's not get our panties in a twist at the outset! Let's see this thing unfold, find out where we are and what's going on BEFORE jumping to conclusions! We're only three pages in!
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Post by Rasselas on May 6, 2015 22:59:56 GMT
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Post by Onomatopoeia on May 6, 2015 23:02:46 GMT
Now, now, everyone, let's not get our panties in a twist at the outset! Let's see this thing unfold, find out where we are and what's going on BEFORE jumping to conclusions! We're only three pages in! Not sure if serious.  |
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Post by Jelly Jellybean on May 6, 2015 23:40:09 GMT
The over arching Gunnerkrigg Court plot revealed - how caring and warm people are turned into horrible people who do or tolerate despicable things. ... Are you talking about the patricide and ensuing margarita-sipping half the posters are calling for, or about the posters themselves? The over arching Gunnerkrigg Court plot revealed - how caring and warm people are turned into horrible people who do or tolerate despicable things. How love turns them into horrible people, you mean. I am mostly being hyperbolic... But actually the whole Court. Anthony seemed to be a caring, if socially awkward, teenager, but now he seems to be a monster. Anja, Donald, and Eglamore seem to be caring people, but it appears that some number of months have passed and it appears that no one has helped Annie. Headmaster probably had a lot of shits to give, but not anymore. And the worst possibility of all... Kat. She already developed a hated Anthony before he returned. No one seems to be helping Annie. She already had issues with the Court sacrificing Jeanne. Now she may think that the current Court has essentially sacrificed Annie. All of this s#!t might lead sweet lovable Kat to desperation and "ends justifying means", i.e murder. The never ending depressing pages seem to be coloring my perspective. |
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Post by todd on May 7, 2015 0:12:41 GMT
Hmmm point(s) taken. On the other hand we are talking about the Donlans and Eglamore. Are they so negligent? They seemed caring and warm people. Yes, one of the things that keep the Court, despite its faults, from feeling "comic-book villain-y" - though the Donlans and Eglamore aren't in the inner circle. |
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Post by todd on May 7, 2015 0:16:29 GMT
But actually the whole Court. Anthony seemed to be a caring, if socially awkward, teenager, but now he seems to be a monster. Anja, Donald, and Eglamore seem to be caring people, but it appears that some number of months have passed and it appears that no one has helped Annie. Headmaster probably had a lot of shits to give, but not anymore. And the worst possibility of all... Kat. She already developed a hated Anthony before he returned. No one seems to be helping Annie. She already had issues with the Court sacrificing Jeanne. Now she may think that the current Court has essentially sacrificed Annie. All of this s#!t might lead sweet lovable Kat to desperation and "ends justifying means", i.e murder. If Tom was religious (which he isn't), I'd expect this to turn out to be about the tragic consequences of humans reaching for something that they were never meant to have, and that all of these cases above are all thanks to the Court's quest for unraveling the mysteries of the ether and the Bismuth Seed, undermining everyone's character. |
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Post by ctso74 on May 7, 2015 0:26:14 GMT
Yup, I'm giving up all hope and preparing for the worst. The next scene will probably be Carver dissecting Reynardine alive or something even worse. Yikes, man. What could be worse than that? Tony using Rey as a teddy every night? Oh... Yeah, there it is. Worse. I'm really hoping, that Tom shows the reasons behind the Mysterious Mr Carver, and that they aren't completely monstrous. Then again: Anthony: "Hmm, something is missing from this vivisection. Maybe instead of telling him to be silent, she should have said, he could only scream... Antimony, please come here." |
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Post by TBeholder on May 7, 2015 1:02:33 GMT
I don't know why everyone jumped to the conclusion that this is Annie's living space. Now, now, everyone, let's not get our panties in a twist at the outset! Let's see this thing unfold, find out where we are and what's going on BEFORE jumping to conclusions! I also don't know why @everyone acts so strange, but it certainly would be easier if said participant didn't suffer from split personalities and amnesia, and posted the same ideas only once and under one account. I wonder if someone should make a fanart... Mr. Carver pincushion dolls, now selling on Topaco... I'm for it. At least this could satisfy my abstract curiosity over the "sock-puppets or meat-puppets?" question. Even if numbers of unique addresses and paying accounts are blackboxed, the number of sales would still say a lot. Ahh, remember Thor’s prodigal twin sister Whor?  Dang, the last chapter and now this? (holding out hope for a very longwinded April Fool's prank. because the alternative is just so SAD) This started before the Fools' Day, so my bet is on "the Eternal September is a bit slow, but it finally caught up with this forum". |
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Post by Refugee on May 7, 2015 1:26:00 GMT
The next scene will probably be Carver dissecting Reynardine alive.... Well, yeah, she needs to get her picks back before turning him over to... Oh, you meant Carver père dissecting Renard. Nah, all he'd find would be a bunch of stuffing and some picks, which would probably end up jamming under his fingernails. |
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Post by geoduck on May 7, 2015 1:39:42 GMT
The more this whole charade continues, the more my respect for Tom diminishes. A guy that's supposed to be logical and methodical just shows up out of the blue and starts fucking with Annie's life for no evident reason. I'm trying to give Anthony the benefit of the doubt in the face of the crazy people screaming for his bloody murder because HE WAS MEAN TO ANNIE but this is just ridiculous. Yeah, I refuse to hate Anthony, not because I in any way approve of what he's being depicted as doing, but because it's reached the point where I feel Tom is rubbing my face in it: "Hate this man! See how horrible and mean he is to your beloved protagonist!" I would really appreciate at this point some indication of what Anthony is actually thinking or hoping to achieve. Even just show him talking to someone, anyone, without Annie being present. |
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Post by TheClockworkCoyote on May 7, 2015 2:50:00 GMT
I wonder if someone should make a fanart... Mr. Carver pincushion dolls, now selling on Topaco... Save that I'm busy prepping to work a convention this weekend (MarCon, which is celebrating it's 50th anniversary this year!), I might be tempted to delve into my fleece remnants stash.... |
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Post by goldenknots on May 7, 2015 4:36:24 GMT
But actually the whole Court. Anthony seemed to be a caring, if socially awkward, teenager, but now he seems to be a monster. Anja, Donald, and Eglamore seem to be caring people, but it appears that some number of months have passed and it appears that no one has helped Annie. Headmaster probably had a lot of shits to give, but not anymore. How have you detected a passage of time in the range of "some number of months"? Guess I'm clueless, I don't see any reason to think that it isn't a few hours later, or a day later, or a week or so. |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on May 7, 2015 5:04:27 GMT
I would have guessed a number of days.
If it were hours then Kat wouldn't be going to wherever Annie is and knocking on the door and whatever, she'd still be there, assuming that that room actually is Annie's new place, which I still doubt.
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Post by anisky on May 7, 2015 5:20:06 GMT
Okay but what happened to Reynardine?!
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Post by Refugee on May 7, 2015 5:27:38 GMT
Okay but what happened to Reynardine?! We don't know, but there's no reason to posit a period of months elapsing to explain that. No reason to say it isn't months later, either. We simply do not know. I'd hope, though, that this is no more than a day or two after Annie's move, and that aside from that, nothing much has changed. Although I think Annie's red belt shows she's beginning to recover enough to want a little color back. === Belated thought: I do have to admit that Kat's hug is a bit intense for an absence of only a couple of days, and if this isn't Annie's spacious foyer, there's been time to arrange this meeting place. So, you may well be right. We just don't know. === Third thought: It might be no more than the next morning after Annie's first night alone. That was likely a pretty rough night for her, and Kat might well need the hug herself. === Heck, I give up. Just random thoughts now: Why is this room so big? Why would Kat have chosen it as a meeting place if it is so inconvenient? (Somehow, that precaution doesn't seem very Annie-like.) Annie apologizes for it, as if she had a choice. Why didn't she park herself closer to the door? Why didn't she go to meet Kat half way? I can't believe that Annie's been living there for more than overnight, and has made no greater mark on the room than what we've seen. At the very, very least, we see that Mr. Carver has not imposed restrictions that would prevent Kat from meeting Annie like this. === What do you mean, I have to wait another day to find out what's going on? Come on, Tom, you pull a stunt like this, you need to give a five day straight run to get us oriented. What? Tomorrow's Friday?Get outta town. |
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Post by Onomatopoeia on May 7, 2015 6:16:25 GMT
Side note: That building appears to be smaller on the outside than it is on the inside.
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Post by arf on May 7, 2015 6:59:34 GMT
If Kat had to knock to get in, who opened for her? Conceivable she just knocked to be courteous, I suppose. I'm confused as to why Annie didn't move... cannot at all conceive of her being shackled in place, but it's almost as unreasonable to imagine her not going toward Kat, instead of just standing there. Point. I think it emphasises how little initiative Annie now has. |
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Post by arf on May 7, 2015 7:11:15 GMT
To answer Kat's question: maybe this was where Sivo used to live.
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